Dragonfruits Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Exactly, he's gonna want 6-7.5m a year. Maybe more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbgunner Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 No he doesn't. Schneider played better when he had to carry his share of the team. Atleast Kesler scored, when Schneider had to carry his part of the team he went 1-0 2-1 5. He let in 16 goals in 4 games, you want that goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cow Disease Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Luongo has been very good. But good enough? .902 save% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Do you watch the games or just look at stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Fans like you are the reason why I hate coming on this board. It's not Luongo's fault that we lost tonight. Sure, he may have wished he had one or two goals back these past two games but honestly could you blame him? If our team can't even score more than 3 goals a night, then not even Schneider can save this team. Let's review the goals now shall we? Couture goal: Beautiful shot. On the powerplay. Through several bodies. Nothing Luongo could've done except go into butterfly and hopefully hit him. Boyle goal: Luongo was taken out of the play. Nothing on his part. Just a mental defensive breakdown. Marleau goal: Hamhuis was caught watching the puck and when he tried to block the shot, it went off his foot and into the net. Had it not gone off Hamhuis, Luongo woulda had that but because it changed direction and the puck's speed and momentum slowed down, it went off Hamhuis' shin guard and into the corner of the net. Nothing Luongo could've done. If anything, all 3 of these goals weren't Luongo's fault. Our team couldn't score. Our defense was having mental breakdowns and having sloppy outbreaks. Too much hesitation with our forwards like Henrik and Raymond hanging onto the puck instead of shooting it right away. Thornton goal: Jam play. 1 on 2 in front of our net. Edler can only handle so many sticks in front of him and unfortunately, Luongo wasn't there quick enough to stop the puck. Again, another defensive breakdown and our team being slow as usual didn't take their man and wasn't fast to the puck. Marleau goal: Luongo couldn't squeeze the puck enough and Marleau was the quicker skater to the puck to tap it in. Torres goal: Blocked shot from Burns at one end leads to a 2 on 1 and Burns makes a slick pass to Torres for an easy tap in. All Luongo could do there was to get across as soon as possible and hope that Torres slid it on the ice instead of roofing it but it went top shelf. SO really, if you break it down, Luongo can only be "blamed", and I quote, BLAMED, for only one, maybe two goals. The rest were just our players not doing their jobs and not scoring enough to bail him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 lol interesting stats Cherry threw out there.. of the 8 losses Luongo had this year.. sure he was good in some avg/mediocre in others.. but the team scored a combined 10 goals for him in 8 games.. hard to win games if you are expected to avg 0 goals per game against in order to win.. that's some pressure there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm starting to wonder if anyone watches other teams play? It is not uncommon for goalies to make big saves in a game You all act like Luongo is the only goaltender that robs people on grade A chances. It's simple, increase save % = decreased GAA = increased win % He has lost 5 in a row, part of it is goal support but part of it is his numbers, and in all fairness to Luo his defence. We need like 4 goals a game to offset his numbers in these losses Who scores 4 goals a game in the playoffs? The 1988 Edmonton Oilers? are we the 1988 Edmonton Oilers? He is playing great, but not good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 you can blame all you want at luongo.. but i blame it more on coaching.. the team isn't playing consistently from the start of the game.. once they have a lead they sit back on it and let the other team bring it to you. and what are you talking about? the game is 2-2 tie after 3 period so no u only need 3 goals to win.. and game 1 sure the 3rd goal wasn't all that great.. but it's not like the Canucks were making any push AT ALL and the game was not tied at the time.. so whatever.. 3 goals in 2 games he'll need to have a shutout every game to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 you can blame all you want at luongo.. but i blame it more on coaching.. the team isn't playing consistently from the start of the game.. once they have a lead they sit back on it and let the other team bring it to you. and what are you talking about? the game is 2-2 tie after 3 period so no u only need 3 goals to win.. and game 1 sure the 3rd goal wasn't all that great.. but it's not like the Canucks were making any push AT ALL and the game was not tied at the time.. so whatever.. 3 goals in 2 games he'll need to have a shutout every game to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm not sure cap hit is the concern its the huge amount of dollars left on the contract for an older goalie. You have make sure your team goes to the final couple times at least during that contract bc that's big buks for an owner to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigano Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm starting to wonder if anyone watches other teams play? It is not uncommon for goalies to make big saves in a game You all act like Luongo is the only goaltender that robs people on grade A chances. It's simple, increase save % = decreased GAA = increased win % He has lost 5 in a row, part of it is goal support but part of it is his numbers, and in all fairness to Luo his defence. We need like 4 goals a game to offset his numbers in these losses Who scores 4 goals a game in the playoffs? The 1988 Edmonton Oilers? are we the 1988 Edmonton Oilers? He is playing great, but not good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 And in two seasons when CS's contract must be renewed, he is going to walk because he will want more than RL money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Like last night tying goal Lu made the save but puck just sitting behind him, you need your defense to help clear it.or at least don't let the guy walk in untouched to pot the loose puck like Edler did. You call that playoff defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberries Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 GOALTENDING IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm not sure cap hit is the concern its the huge amount of dollars left on the contract for an older goalie. You have make sure your team goes to the final couple times at least during that contract bc that's big buks for an owner to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeneir Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Ok hold on here... Now i don't blame Lui for the loss at all last night, he gave us what it should take to win. But we did have the game won and all that was needed was for him to make a routine save, one that happens all the time. He didn't, we went to overtime and lost. Don't go blaming defense on a goal like that, are they supposed to stand behind Lui in case a puck is there? Not that it matters Canucks had no business being in the lead that game other than Kesler's performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigano Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Hold on a little longer. Luongo made the stop, and the puck trickled through his pads, happens to every goalie. Should he have stopped it under his pads? Sure, ideally, doesn't always work though. Bottom line, puck stopped before crossing the line. What next? There is absolutely no reason that a SJS player should beat a Canuck to that puck. Every other team collapses around their net to support their goalie, clear rebounds and get to loose pucks first. How the hell did Marleau get to a puck in our crease first, especially that cleanly? No excuse for D that sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
131313 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 The Canucks skaters play like crap and lose to a lousy team again, and you are all talking about the Goalie. It doesn't matter if you put Hasek, Roy, and Ken Dryden all in net together the Canucks still are not winning unless the rest of the team play better. They like the goalie controversy, it keeps attention deflected from their terrible performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Hold on a little longer. Luongo made the stop, and the puck trickled through his pads, happens to every goalie. Should he have stopped it under his pads? Sure, ideally, doesn't always work though. Bottom line, puck stopped before crossing the line. What next? There is absolutely no reason that a SJS player should beat a Canuck to that puck. Every other team collapses around their net to support their goalie, clear rebounds and get to loose pucks first. How the hell did Marleau get to a puck in our crease first, especially that cleanly? No excuse for D that sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 He deserves to start every game of the playoffs even if Cory gets healthy. Here's why; 1. He has played great in each of the first two games. 2. He will be more game-ready than Schneider, who has missed considerable time 3. He has a way better track record and more experience than Schneider in the playoffs 4. He is our healthiest goalie 5. He stepped in for the last 2 games of the season with chances to finish the season with wins but coaches and teammates hung him out to dry. He deserves some respect. 6. He has dealt with a lot off the ice this year out of his control at the hands of management. He deserves the respect in his last go with the Nucks. If the ship sinks, let our former captain go down with it at the helm, not on the bench. We can burn into our memories his class, and his talent as we watch him make ridiculous saves all the way to another post-season crumble from factors beyond his control. (no scoring) 7. Most importantly, He gives us the best chance of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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