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#91 Dragonfruits

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:39 PM

Gaunce is 19 yrs old. I make my facts on what he's shown in the past years not a scrimmage... Do u know Hockey or just dream up things...


Do you know hockey at all???

Gaunce led his team in Goals during the regular season despite playing 8 less games he also was 2nd in points and he was the Captain

He also led his team in scoring in the playoffs scoring 8g 14a 22pts

You and every other troll bashing Gaunce right now are basing it on Rookie Tournament and Team Canada Evaluation

You make up 0 facts just baseless opinion
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 06:52 PM

Gaunce was dominant in the OHL. Some of you have to realize that this is against NHL players, maybe he isn't ready right now but his positioning is good for his age.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:04 PM

Gaunce was dominant in the OHL. Some of you have to realize that this is against NHL players, maybe he isn't ready right now but his positioning is good for his age.


Yea, some people act like the jump from the OHL to the NHL is an easy one.

Obviously there's gonna be a learning curve.

I think one thing that may have slowed Gaunce's development last season was not having an NHL camp to go to because of the lockout. It's not until a player goes to an NHL camp that they fully realize how hard they have to work. He may have thought he was ready, but he'll learn after this camp what it really takes. He's still only 19.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:15 PM

Gaunce was dominant in the OHL. Some of you have to realize that this is against NHL players, maybe he isn't ready right now but his positioning is good for his age.


He may not be ready but there still is no telling until he does face some sort of NHL competition even if its only preseason a lot of people on here are already calling him a bust because of a less than spectacular rookie camp because apparently 4 games against other rookies is more than enough to know whether they are ready to make the jump or not

Preseason can't start soon enough hell the Regular season can't start soon enough to see who actually makes the team
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:37 PM

just a quick note about mcnally, he voluntarily withdrew, he was never suspended. it was most likely part of a plea deal.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:41 PM

Does anyone know who is waiver eligible that might not make the team and have to be sent down?

It is easy to do the work to find out, but I don't think I will have time today. I will try to get that done Monday and Tuesday, my weekend.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:48 PM

Hard to be stoked for the upcoming season seeing some of these idiotic/negative comments in this thread....

Anyway, just wanted to say Santorelli is going to surprise a lot of people. Most don't know/forget that in his first full year with Florida he had 20 goals and 41 points. Before that he was a PPG player in the AHL for the previous 2 years.

I could see him competing for the 3rd line center spot, especially if Gaunce and Schroeder don't impress.

I suspect Santorelli will be one of the last decisions that need to be made by management this offseason. IMO he is under rated.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

Anyone know when the scrimmage is tomorrow? Where can you find the lineup on who is playing?

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:30 PM

Anyone know when the scrimmage is tomorrow? Where can you find the rosier on who is playing.


9:00 if I'm not mistaken.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:34 PM

9:00 if I'm not mistaken.


Thanks where can I find the lineup I want to watch Subban in person.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:47 PM

Thanks where can I find the lineup I want to watch Subban in person.

@VanCanucks usually tweets it shortly before the scrimmage starts.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:11 PM

Thanks where can I find the lineup I want to watch Subban in person.

It shouldnt be hard to notice him....I mean not to be racist but he's the only black guy out there.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:47 PM

Scrimms online tomorrow FTW!!!!!!
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:57 PM

Any feedback on shredder?

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:06 PM

I was thinking that Shinkaruk and Kesler could be a good pair. Burr is just always good.

Glad Torts and I are on the same page ;)

lol remember what AV`s scrimmage lines were always like? A complete mess? Torts is trying to build on chemistry that already has it's foundation laid out for him, and on day 1 no less.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:26 PM

Any feedback on shredder?

he didn't play today, not sure what feedback there would be...
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:33 PM

he didn't play today, not sure what feedback there would be...


Lets blow it out of proportion shall we?

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:33 PM

Glad Torts has some vision. Putting Shinkaruk with Kesler and Burr was a good decision for the scrimmage.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:53 PM

lol remember what AV`s scrimmage lines were always like? A complete mess?

Most of the time they were, but then again, that Raymond-Schroeder-Kass line last year was sick along with the Schroeder-Morrison-Hodgson line(surprisingly Hodgson was the worst out of the three.)
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 11:30 PM

What's everyone's impression of Hunter Shinkaruk so far? From what I've seen of his WHL highlights and the limited "big league" games so far, he seems awesome.

He's got some of the most silky hands of any player in the Canucks organization I've seen since the Sedins. Good speed. Absolutely LOVES to play hockey and score goals (reminds me of Ovechkin's infectious enthusiasm). To be honest, I'm as excited about this guy as I am Horvat.

I really hope he can translate his skills to the NHL, because if he can, trust me, we'll be loving this kid.
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Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:35 AM

What's everyone's impression of Hunter Shinkaruk so far? From what I've seen of his WHL highlights and the limited "big league" games so far, he seems awesome.

He's got some of the most silky hands of any player in the Canucks organization I've seen since the Sedins. Good speed. Absolutely LOVES to play hockey and score goals (reminds me of Ovechkin's infectious enthusiasm). To be honest, I'm as excited about this guy as I am Horvat.

I really hope he can translate his skills to the NHL, because if he can, trust me, we'll be loving this kid.


I think he can emulate Patty Kane's style of play in a lot of way, and he seems to want to be that kind of playmaker but a bit tougher.

AFter seeing the prospects tournament I am definitely pleased that the Canucks managed to get him.
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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:08 AM

What's everyone's impression of Hunter Shinkaruk so far? From what I've seen of his WHL highlights and the limited "big league" games so far, he seems awesome.

He's got some of the most silky hands of any player in the Canucks organization I've seen since the Sedins. Good speed. Absolutely LOVES to play hockey and score goals (reminds me of Ovechkin's infectious enthusiasm). To be honest, I'm as excited about this guy as I am Horvat.

I really hope he can translate his skills to the NHL, because if he can, trust me, we'll be loving this kid.


I am crazy impressed with him, while everyone was drooling about BoHo (who will be a star one day). I was talking about the steal of the draft... Hunter Shinkaruk. The kids history was just waiting to repeat itself... He was over looked in the Bantam Draft for being too small, and lit it up. Same with the NHL draft and he will light it up when he makes his entrance.

Another kid impressing me is Subban, another steal. GMMG you drafted extremely well this year. Plus your FA signings were pretty decent as well.

Zach Hamill was basically an 8th round pick... Low Risk - VERY high reward if he pans out, and if he doesn't, oh well, Utica he goes.

Richardson is a solid 4th line C-Man who pot some points. Not to mention he has some ambition.. He wants that 3rd C, and to be honest he could vie for it.

Santorelli at one point was a PPG player in the AHL and his 1st full season he had 41 points. He has the capability to fill that tertiary scoring niche if our 3rd/4th C man isn't doing whats needed... and believe me, Torts will bench anyone and promote a player if he is doing well. Santorelli has been written off by CDC a long with Hamill, but both these guys have potential.

Ferriero, this guy is a solid 4th line pick up who is a shoot-out specialist. I wish he could get his foot work and passing up to par with his stick handling skills. Good depth pick, can push Sestito into the sky-box every now and then.

Can't wait till this camp tells its whole story!

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:20 AM

Santorelli at one point was a PPG player in the AHL and his 1st full season he had 41 points. He has the capability to fill that tertiary scoring niche if our 3rd/4th C man isn't doing whats needed... and believe me, Torts will bench anyone and promote a player if he is doing well. Santorelli has been written off by CDC a long with Hamill, but both these guys have potential.


I reserve to comment on prospects because so many things can change from the time they are drafted to the time they are in the NHL.

But the 2 signings above I am particularly interested in.
I was pretty surprised at Santorelli's numbers when I did some digging. I'm not going to pretend I know who the guy is but what i have read on the physical testing and his AHL numbers have me dancing.
I also have a feeling Hamil has grown up and realizes he has a huge opportunity to resurrect his career.
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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:24 AM

On a rather unrelated note, does anyone else think Brad Richardson resembles Kesler quite a bit?
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Posted 14 September 2013 - 03:24 AM

It shouldnt be hard to notice him....I mean not to be racist but he's the only black guy out there.


Nope, totally alright :)
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Posted 14 September 2013 - 04:33 AM

It shouldnt be hard to notice him....I mean not to be racist but he's the only black guy out there.


Darren Archibald is black
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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:15 AM

Certainly like what I heard about Richardson from Torts and his team mates. If he plays they way they have complimented him, we may not miss Lappy as much as I expected.

Apparently a very hard worker, has wheels, decent hands and in his interview certainly is looks to have decent size. Torts says he has that 'stiffness' he likes which is good to hear and isn't limiting him to a 4th line role (which is interesting, he must have impressed in day 1).

To the extent he can play a 3rd line role we get more flexibility.

I really see this camp about hoping we get some surprises. To the extent we do, this team will have some decent depth and flexibility. If we don't then it will be a tough year come playoff time.

If he does take the 3rd line center spot, have to start wondering if maybe Schroeder is just stuck for a spot and gets moved. Maybe he's too small for our lineup given our lack of size...

I love the kid but almost seems like this is his make it or break it year....He HAS to take that 3rd line role in a commanding manner (ie Richardson can't steal it, and it will be hard bc Richardson is likely better suited for THAT role), and since there is no room on the 2nd line (I assume thats Kesler./Burrows with Jensen or Booth - cant see schroeds on that line unless Burr is on the top and Kassian drops to 3)..

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:26 AM

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Attended the open scrimmage this morning with the lovely girlfriend!. Sorry if the opinion is redundant.

Team 1 (Blue):

Sedin-Sedin-Kass
Sestito-Horvat-Weise
Defazio-Santorelli-Pecan

Hammer-Corrado
Polasek-Mullen
Negrin-Alberts

Joacim Eriksson
Joe Cannata

Team 2 (White):

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Blomstrand-Gaunce-Ferriero
Hamill-Lain-Grenier
(Friesen)

Garry-Juice
Tommernes-Biega
Guimond-Blain

Soooooo...got there early.

It appeared that there was still some testing going on, as the ice was used. When seated we watched all 3 goalies work with Rollie, Carnegie and Cloutier (i think, couldnt really tell or verify) on lateral movement and rim around drills. Not sure, but i thought maybe Baumer was there too.

Then the skaters filed out. The assistants ran the benches. Torts was in the stands, about 10 rows up from players bench watching with no pen/papers. Scouts were seated further back.

Quickie summary (biased observations):

Played 2 full periods. 2 refs. Sedin vs.Kesler were the veteran 1st lines matchups.

Kass looked very good. Super slim. Almost skinny. Was always with the Twins was quicker for sure. There was some Sedinery (got a fun treat of the Hank half ice slapper from east to west, only to bank off the end boards to Danny Sedinery. Nothing really came out of it but it was rad to see . A couple of lapses from Kass as far as getting double teamed and not getting the puck deep. Oh and he executed a full on Bertuzzi homage. Spinned into the corner with the puck, and warded off 2 defenders and gained the back of the net for a sweet wraparound attempt. But then again, its only a scrimmage. He was impressive most times.

Kes looked good too. Was hard on the rookies. Lots of bumps. Was getting gnarly with Pacan who played Kes hard. Some trash talking and sticks in ribs.

Burr and Kes as a tandem was rad as always. Shinkaruk to me was neither here nor there as far as being noticable. I saw some good things and some silly mistakes. I saw him as a strong skater, good with keeping the puck, but weak on retrievals. He also grinded and gave some good bumps.

Horvat, to me was more noticable. Same with Gaunce, Lain, Alberts, Corrado, and Lack

Its almost easier to tell you who stood out. And they were mainly the guys we all know so far.

Sort of speculated that the vets had liberties with playing the kids hard. Horvat stood out as being a guy who took it, whereas many of the rookies got shy if Hammer, Garry, Kes, Albie, Juice...started really stapling them to the boards and playing them hard.

Saw some vintage Burr. He curled in for a loose puck near the blue line, and burned in with a forward and d trailing (wasnt sure who they were), and executed to perfection his "go to":

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Hammer seemed rusty or dazed. He skated well, but seemed clumsy with the puck at times. To be fair, i like him, so i was attentive to everything he was doing, including the lapses. BUT, he was great against the rookies against the walls. He was bumping/hitting, making good simple plays, and bailed out Corrado a few times (and vice versa too). Got some pucks on goal That Hammer thing he does, he did it.

Corrado was pretty rad. Total offense and a sound defensive game. Hammer and Corrado were sound at quick breakout passes. A good duo.

The vets were the only ones that could anticipate the Twins/Kass, same with the Kes line. Every d-kid got a very brief amount of thier shift with a d-man veteran. Juice, Garry, Hammer, Corrado, Albie all bailed them out of funny defensive lapses against Kes/Burr-Danny/Hank.

Admittedly i was looking at the vets and touted kids than say Santorelli.

But i can say this: the bottom 6 forwards in this scrimmage were just as fun to watch. They were givn'er. Chippy, interesting, quick; they were desperate shifts to impress.

I think Gaunce has a better shot of sticking than Shinkaruk. I think Horvat is a leftie handed tank version of Kesler, and wouldnt be out of place on a version of the 3rd line.

Same for Lain. Everyone had trouble containing him. He was a bit shy, but you could see some nasty in him. Wasnt as slow as i thought he has been purported to be.

Really loved what Albie was bringing. Maybe im biased, but if the final d-pairing requires a leftie, it should be Albie.

Believe it or not, i thought he was the most notable player who is on the bubble of sticking, playing well. He was virtually mistake free. Physical. Simple. Quicker. Would really love to see him stay.

Erikkson was an adventure. He got beat when he should not have. Five holes, high glove and blocker.

Lack was excellent.

After the scrimmage...there was a short break. New ice. Torts, Rollie, and most of the assistants were out on skates, along with group of players.

The vets that were back out were: Burr, Kes, Garry, Juice, and i think (i know im probably wrong), Alberts.

Notables were Hamill...and....ummm. Lack and Eriksson were back stopping.

Torts was loose with the players. Horns and whistles dictated the start and stop of a drill. After a brief skate around, Torts started the practice.

They were all specific drills.

I couldnt possibly tell you what they were. But i can quickly describe what i saw.

First 3 drills were all break-out drills along the boards, where all players rotated with quick first pass, breaking out of the zone plays.

Then it was passing. I cant describe the drill properly, but all uptempo skating (usually in duos) and quick east to west short passes and a shot on net.

Those were pretty much the only drills with the puck. Also there were no breaks or skatearounds. It was fluid, uptempo drills bleeding into one another except for maybe 2-3 quick breaks to instruct the next group of drills.

Then the nets were pulled up to the top of the slot. A stopwatch was brandished. And all players were grouped at all 4 corners (at one time they were all at center). And got their NHL/NHL future hockey butts kicked.

It was all hard skating. They were timed. The skating drills were a variation of a theme, all timed.

Kes and Burr were the best conditioned, same with Juice. Hamill struggled. Shinkaruk did too.

Interestingly, Kes was cheering on the kids urging them to skate more. Pretty cool.

They were totally worked on the skating. Holy crap, no joke.

After, Kes was to lead the cool down stretch but appointed Gaunce to lead instead.

That was pretty much it for me.

Sorry i couldnt give more info about the unfamiliar guys. Sometimes it was difficult to keep track of who we were sometimes seeing.

That was only a scrimmage/practice.

And it was exciting to see what could be, especially from the core, Lack, and a few kids that could easily stick.

Guess what i didnt see?

Risky shot blocking with the body.

Sure there were blocked shots, but most players seemed to be in sound position when playing well. and prevented point shots and low slot shots.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:40 AM

I was thinking that Shinkaruk and Kesler could be a good pair. Burr is just always good.

Glad Torts and I are on the same page ;)

lol remember what AV`s scrimmage lines were always like? A complete mess? Torts is trying to build on chemistry that already has it's foundation laid out for him, and on day 1 no less.

In my mind that was a glaring weakness of AV. he seemed to stumble upon line combos by trying every conceivable set of numbers...like a guy who forgot his school lock combo and just figured it out after turning the dial a few hundred times. Just my opinion, but one I formed via observation and interest for AV's entire tenure here. Torts I think has a more intuitive hockey sense of who goes where when. He has gotten amazing results out of his teams, and they are never stacked teams historically. I predict a good year with a great hockey sense coach an a stacked team. Possibilities are endless!
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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:58 AM

Attended the open scrimmage this morning with the lovely girlfriend!. Sorry if the opinion is redundant.

Team 1 (Blue):

Sedin-Sedin-Kass
Sestito-Horvat-Weise
Defazio-Santorelli-Pecan

Hammer-Corrado
Polasek-Mullen
Negrin-Alberts

Joacim Eriksson
Joe Cannata

Team 2 (White):

Shinkaruk-Kes-Burr
Blomstrand-Gaunce-Ferriero
Hamill-Lain-Grenier
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Soooooo...got there early.

It appeared that there was still some testing going on, as the ice was used. When seated we watched all 3 goalies work with Rollie, Carnegie and Cloutier (i think, couldnt really tell or verify) on lateral movement and rim around drills. Not sure, but i thought maybe Baumer was there too.

Then the skaters filed out. The assistants ran the benches. Torts was in the stands, about 10 rows up from players bench watching with no pen/papers. Scouts were seated further back.

Quickie summary (biased observations):

Played 2 full periods. 2 refs. Sedin vs.Kesler were the veteran 1st lines matchups.

Kass looked very good. Super slim. Almost skinny. Was always with the Twins was quicker for sure. There was some Sedinery (got a fun treat of the Hank half ice slapper from east to west, only to bank off the end boards to Danny Sedinery. Nothing really came out of it but it was rad to see . A couple of lapses from Kass as far as getting double teamed and not getting the puck deep. Oh and he executed a full on Bertuzzi homage. Spinned into the corner with the puck, and warded off 2 defenders and gained the back of the net for a sweet wraparound attempt. But then again, its only a scrimmage. He was impressive most times.

Kes looked good too. Was hard on the rookies. Lots of bumps. Was getting gnarly with Pacan who played Kes hard. Some trash talking and sticks in ribs.

Burr and Kes as a tandem was rad as always. Shinkaruk to me was neither here nor there as far as being noticable. I saw some good things and some silly mistakes. I saw him as a strong skater, good with keeping the puck, but weak on retrievals. He also grinded and gave some good bumps.

Horvat, to me was more noticable. Same with Gaunce, Lain, Alberts, Corrado, and Lack

Its almost easier to tell you who stood out. And they were mainly the guys we all know so far.

Sort of speculated that the vets had liberties with playing the kids hard. Horvat stood out as being a guy who took it, whereas many of the rookies got shy if Hammer, Garry, Kes, Albie, Juice...started really stapling them to the boards and playing them hard.

Saw some vintage Burr. He curled in for a loose puck near the blue line, and burned in with a forward and d trailing (wasnt sure who they were), and executed to perfection his "go to":

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Hammer seemed rusty or dazed. He skated well, but seemed clumsy with the puck at times. To be fair, i like him, so i was attentive to everything he was doing, including the lapses. BUT, he was great against the rookies against the walls. He was bumping/hitting, making good simple plays, and bailed out Corrado a few times (and vice versa too). Got some pucks on goal That Hammer thing he does, he did it.

Corrado was pretty rad. Total offense and a sound defensive game. Hammer and Corrado were sound at quick breakout passes. A good duo.

The vets were the only ones that could anticipate the Twins/Kass, same with the Kes line. Every d-kid got a very brief amount of thier shift with a d-man veteran. Juice, Garry, Hammer, Corrado, Albie all bailed them out of funny defensive lapses against Kes/Burr-Danny/Hank.

Admittedly i was looking at the vets and touted kids than say Santorelli.

But i can say this: the bottom 6 forwards in this scrimmage were just as fun to watch. They were givn'er. Chippy, interesting, quick; they were desperate shifts to impress.

I think Gaunce has a better shot of sticking than Shinkaruk. I think Horvat is a leftie handed tank version of Kesler, and wouldnt be out of place on a version of the 3rd line.

Same for Lain. Everyone had trouble containing him. He was a bit shy, but you could see some nasty in him. Wasnt as slow as i thought he has been purported to be.

Really loved what Albie was bringing. Maybe im biased, but if the final d-pairing requires a leftie, it should be Albie.

Believe it or not, i thought he was the most notable player who is on the bubble of sticking, playing well. He was virtually mistake free. Physical. Simple. Quicker. Would really love to see him stay.

Erikkson was an adventure. He got beat when he should not have. Five holes, high glove and blocker.

Lack was excellent.

After the scrimmage...there was a short break. New ice. Torts, Rollie, and most of the assistants were out on skates, along with group of players.

The vets that were back out were: Burr, Kes, Garry, Juice, and i think (i know im probably wrong), Alberts.

Notables were Hamill...and....ummm. Lack and Eriksson were back stopping.

Torts was loose with the players. Horns and whistles dictated the start and stop of a drill. After a brief skate around, Torts started the practice.

They were all specific drills.

I couldnt possibly tell you what they were. But i can quickly describe what i saw.

First 3 drills were all break-out drills along the boards, where all players rotated with quick first pass, breaking out of the zone plays.

Then it was passing. I cant describe the drill properly, but all uptempo skating (usually in duos) and quick east to west short passes and a shot on net.

Those were pretty much the only drills with the puck. Also there were no breaks or skatearounds. It was fluid, uptempo drills bleeding into one another except for maybe 2-3 quick breaks to instruct the next group of drills.

Then the nets were pulled up to the top of the slot. A stopwatch was brandished. And all players were grouped at all 4 corners (at one time they were all at center). And got their NHL/NHL future hockey butts kicked.

It was all hard skating. They were timed. The skating drills were a variation of a theme, all timed.

Kes and Burr were the best conditioned, same with Juice. Hamill struggled. Shinkaruk did too.

Interestingly, Kes was cheering on the kids urging them to skate more. Pretty cool.

They were totally worked on the skating. Holy crap, no joke.

After, Kes was to lead the cool down stretch but appointed Gaunce to lead instead.

That was pretty much it for me.

Sorry i couldnt give more info about the unfamiliar guys. Sometimes it was difficult to keep track of who we were sometimes seeing.

That was only a scrimmage/practice.

And it was exciting to see what could be, especially from the core, Lack, and a few kids that could easily stick.

Guess what i didnt see?

Risky shot blocking with the body.

Sure there were blocked shots, but most players seemed to be in sound position when playing well. and prevented point shots and low slot shots.

Thanks for all the effort put in. Enjoyed the read.
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