Primal Optimist Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 That was a great read through Bedbeats, gracias. FYI to other readers he meant yesterday's morning not that they did this at 6am. At least I don' think they did this at 6am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Slot Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Attended the open scrimmage this morning with the lovely girlfriend!. Sorry if the opinion is redundant. Team 1 (Blue): Sedin-Sedin-Kass Sestito-Horvat-Weise Defazio-Santorelli-Pecan Hammer-Corrado Polasek-Mullen Negrin-Alberts Joacim Eriksson Joe Cannata Team 2 (White): Shinkaruk-Kes-Burr Blomstrand-Gaunce-Ferriero Hamill-Lain-Grenier (Friesen) Garry-Juice Tommernes-Biega Guimond-Blain Soooooo...got there early. It appeared that there was still some testing going on, as the ice was used. When seated we watched all 3 goalies work with Rollie, Carnegie and Cloutier (i think, couldnt really tell or verify) on lateral movement and rim around drills. Not sure, but i thought maybe Baumer was there too. Then the skaters filed out. The assistants ran the benches. Torts was in the stands, about 10 rows up from players bench watching with no pen/papers. Scouts were seated further back. Quickie summary (biased observations): Played 2 full periods. 2 refs. Sedin vs.Kesler were the veteran 1st lines matchups. Kass looked very good. Super slim. Almost skinny. Was always with the Twins was quicker for sure. There was some Sedinery (got a fun treat of the Hank half ice slapper from east to west, only to bank off the end boards to Danny Sedinery. Nothing really came out of it but it was rad to see . A couple of lapses from Kass as far as getting double teamed and not getting the puck deep. Oh and he executed a full on Bertuzzi homage. Spinned into the corner with the puck, and warded off 2 defenders and gained the back of the net for a sweet wraparound attempt. But then again, its only a scrimmage. He was impressive most times. Kes looked good too. Was hard on the rookies. Lots of bumps. Was getting gnarly with Pacan who played Kes hard. Some trash talking and sticks in ribs. Burr and Kes as a tandem was rad as always. Shinkaruk to me was neither here nor there as far as being noticable. I saw some good things and some silly mistakes. I saw him as a strong skater, good with keeping the puck, but weak on retrievals. He also grinded and gave some good bumps. Horvat, to me was more noticable. Same with Gaunce, Lain, Alberts, Corrado, and Lack Its almost easier to tell you who stood out. And they were mainly the guys we all know so far. Sort of speculated that the vets had liberties with playing the kids hard. Horvat stood out as being a guy who took it, whereas many of the rookies got shy if Hammer, Garry, Kes, Albie, Juice...started really stapling them to the boards and playing them hard. Saw some vintage Burr. He curled in for a loose puck near the blue line, and burned in with a forward and d trailing (wasnt sure who they were), and executed to perfection his "go to": Hammer seemed rusty or dazed. He skated well, but seemed clumsy with the puck at times. To be fair, i like him, so i was attentive to everything he was doing, including the lapses. BUT, he was great against the rookies against the walls. He was bumping/hitting, making good simple plays, and bailed out Corrado a few times (and vice versa too). Got some pucks on goal That Hammer thing he does, he did it. Corrado was pretty rad. Total offense and a sound defensive game. Hammer and Corrado were sound at quick breakout passes. A good duo. The vets were the only ones that could anticipate the Twins/Kass, same with the Kes line. Every d-kid got a very brief amount of thier shift with a d-man veteran. Juice, Garry, Hammer, Corrado, Albie all bailed them out of funny defensive lapses against Kes/Burr-Danny/Hank. Admittedly i was looking at the vets and touted kids than say Santorelli. But i can say this: the bottom 6 forwards in this scrimmage were just as fun to watch. They were givn'er. Chippy, interesting, quick; they were desperate shifts to impress. I think Gaunce has a better shot of sticking than Shinkaruk. I think Horvat is a leftie handed tank version of Kesler, and wouldnt be out of place on a version of the 3rd line. Same for Lain. Everyone had trouble containing him. He was a bit shy, but you could see some nasty in him. Wasnt as slow as i thought he has been purported to be. Really loved what Albie was bringing. Maybe im biased, but if the final d-pairing requires a leftie, it should be Albie. Believe it or not, i thought he was the most notable player who is on the bubble of sticking, playing well. He was virtually mistake free. Physical. Simple. Quicker. Would really love to see him stay. Erikkson was an adventure. He got beat when he should not have. Five holes, high glove and blocker. Lack was excellent. After the scrimmage...there was a short break. New ice. Torts, Rollie, and most of the assistants were out on skates, along with group of players. The vets that were back out were: Burr, Kes, Garry, Juice, and i think (i know im probably wrong), Alberts. Notables were Hamill...and....ummm. Lack and Eriksson were back stopping. Torts was loose with the players. Horns and whistles dictated the start and stop of a drill. After a brief skate around, Torts started the practice. They were all specific drills. I couldnt possibly tell you what they were. But i can quickly describe what i saw. First 3 drills were all break-out drills along the boards, where all players rotated with quick first pass, breaking out of the zone plays. Then it was passing. I cant describe the drill properly, but all uptempo skating (usually in duos) and quick east to west short passes and a shot on net. Those were pretty much the only drills with the puck. Also there were no breaks or skatearounds. It was fluid, uptempo drills bleeding into one another except for maybe 2-3 quick breaks to instruct the next group of drills. Then the nets were pulled up to the top of the slot. A stopwatch was brandished. And all players were grouped at all 4 corners (at one time they were all at center). And got their NHL/NHL future hockey butts kicked. It was all hard skating. They were timed. The skating drills were a variation of a theme, all timed. Kes and Burr were the best conditioned, same with Juice. Hamill struggled. Shinkaruk did too. Interestingly, Kes was cheering on the kids urging them to skate more. Pretty cool. They were totally worked on the skating. Holy crap, no joke. After, Kes was to lead the cool down stretch but appointed Gaunce to lead instead. That was pretty much it for me. Sorry i couldnt give more info about the unfamiliar guys. Sometimes it was difficult to keep track of who we were sometimes seeing. That was only a scrimmage/practice. And it was exciting to see what could be, especially from the core, Lack, and a few kids that could easily stick. Guess what i didnt see? Risky shot blocking with the body. Sure there were blocked shots, but most players seemed to be in sound position when playing well. and prevented point shots and low slot shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Slot Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 In my mind that was a glaring weakness of AV. he seemed to stumble upon line combos by trying every conceivable set of numbers...like a guy who forgot his school lock combo and just figured it out after turning the dial a few hundred times. Just my opinion, but one I formed via observation and interest for AV's entire tenure here. Torts I think has a more intuitive hockey sense of who goes where when. He has gotten amazing results out of his teams, and they are never stacked teams historically. I predict a good year with a great hockey sense coach an a stacked team. Possibilities are endless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 I never thought it was a country club atmosphere, you don't win two Presidents Trophy's in leisure suits, but I agree with the sentiment, we upgraded the coaching to a team that will increase the ceiling for our Canucks, that is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Slot Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I never thought it was a country club atmosphere, you don't win two Presidents Trophy's in leisure suits, but I agree with the sentiment, we upgraded the coaching to a team that will increase the ceiling for our Canucks, that is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Gaunce is 19 yrs old. I make my facts on what he's shown in the past years not a scrimmage... Do u know Hockey or just dream up things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberries Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Heading down this Am. Hopefuly Jensen and Schroeder and Subban are out there. Wonder if most of the vets will scrimmage again or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Arg way too hung over to go :| Will go tomorrow hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 That's the side of coaching we haven't seen for a while, and glad to see again. Teaching the fundamentals. If the Canucks are fit, and are in mid-season form early on with their skating, it gives us an edge. I also like he's getting players working in tandem. This develops teamwork, and competition. Dare I say Tort's is just what this team needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberries Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 That's the side of coaching we haven't seen for a while, and glad to see again. Teaching the fundamentals. If the Canucks are fit, and are in mid-season form early on with their skating, it gives us an edge. I also like he's getting players working in tandem. This develops teamwork, and competition. Dare I say Tort's is just what this team needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 You can remove Kellan Tochkin from your original list. He wasn't even invited to the Canucks camp but will be at the Comets camp. http://thecanuckway.com/2013/09/14/canucks-prospect-kellan-tochkin-attending-training-camp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jEEborz Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 wheres the streeeeeam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiDeN Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 The stream just gives me the Eddie Lack video. Patience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ray99 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Did they post lines for today's scrimmage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zombieksa Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 wheres the streeeeeam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Stream is working but the sound is not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 wheres the streeeeeam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Burr and Hansen playing eachother hard, love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Kes with a beauty against Lu. Love you how Yannick Weber took #6 because of course he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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