Mr. Ambien Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 As someone who lived in SF for roughly 2 decades, this sort of stupidity by SF doesn't surprise me in the least.. I guess it's more worth it to be defiant to immigration laws and have people killed than enforce then and anger Hispanics coming from the south who don't think they should follow laws. San Francisco prosecutors charge illegal immigrant with killing woman at pier San Francisco prosecutors Monday charged an illegal immigrant -- with a lengthy criminal record and deported five times -- with the murder of a young woman at a popular city pier. Francisco Sanchez, a 45-year-old repeat drug offender released from jail April 15 after law enforcement officials declined to prosecute him, was expected to be arraigned Tuesday in the killing of Kathryn Steinle, 32. The charge came hours after federal immigration officials fired back at San Francisco for putting Sanchez back on the street, saying "this terrible tragedy" could have been prevented if they had been notified of the suspect's release. Sanchez, a Mexican national, had been in the custody of the San Francisco Sheriff's Department on a decade-old drug charge when he was released. In a detailed statement released Monday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said that at the time it had turned over Sanchez to local law enforcement, it also had requested that they be kept apprised of any changes in his status -- and they weren't. "We're not asking local law enforcement to do our job," ICE spokeswoman Gillian Christensen said in the statement. "All we're asking is that they notify us when a serious foreign national criminal offender is being released to the street so we can arrange to take custody." While saying the agency understands local law enforcement's "reticence" on the issue, Christensen said the bottom line is that if San Francisco authorities "had merely NOTIFIED ICE that they were about to release this individual into the community, ICE could have taken custody of him and had him removed from the country -- thus preventing this terrible tragedy." The city did not notify ICE, she said, and, "As a result, an individual with a lengthy criminal history, who is now the suspect in a tragic murder case, was released onto the street rather than being turned over to ICE for deportation." The circumstances surrounding Sanchez have reignited the debate over so-called sanctuary city policies. As a sanctuary city, San Francisco like many other California cities often does not turn over illegal immigrants to federal officials. However, Sanchez has a lengthy rap sheet. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/06/feds-fire-back-at-san-francisco-point-finger-at-city-for-releasing-suspected/?intcmp=latestnews This reeks of a similar circumstance only a handful of years ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I feel sorry for America... it's a mess down there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I feel sorry for America... it's a mess down there... Don't stretch yourself too thin, cuz it aint much better up here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Day Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 There needs to be more immigration debate, the US needs to secure that Mexican border, because I'm sure ISiS and the rest of these dangerous groups know that the border is porous in the south. The girl that was shot was a stunner, a real life angel Donald Trump is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 There needs to be more immigration debate, the US needs to secure that Mexican border, because I'm sure ISiS and the rest of these dangerous groups know that the border is porous in the south. The girl that was shot was a stunner, a real life angel Donald Trump is right "They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." Statistically unfounded, but it feels so good to be a douche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Don't stretch yourself too thin, cuz it aint much better up here now. You don't see any of this up here so we are much better. I feel sorry for America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 There needs to be more immigration debate, the US needs to secure that Mexican border, because I'm sure ISiS and the rest of these dangerous groups know that the border is porous in the south. The girl that was shot was a stunner, a real life angel Donald Trump is right The US's #1 problem with immigration though isn't the border per se. It's a big issue no doubt, especially concerning terrorism, but the more immediate is the millions upon millions of illegals who entered legally and overstayed. Situations like this make it impossible to enforce laws because retarded jurisdictions flout US Federal Law. So of course they're sending the message to illegals that you can be rewarded by breaking immigration law. It's so ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The guy who confessed didn't do it. That's according to my wife who has seen/dealt with similar people in her home country (Mexico). The guy is a patsy, paid off to confess. No doubt with the timing of everything, it reeks of political posturing. The idiots in the south are going to latch on to this and catapult trump into 1st in the Republican nomination vote. Scary times are afoot. Edit: Re: Trump's assertion regarding the border, he is right though. Mexican border officials are sending the worst people over the border illegally because they are problems they don't want to have to deal with. The problem with strengthening the border is it's going to do jack all unless you improve the deployment of border guards to also search for, expose and destroy the underground tunnels. There are thousands of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 The guy who confessed didn't do it. That's according to my wife who has seen/dealt with similar people in her home country (Mexico). The guy is a patsy, paid off to confess. No doubt with the timing of everything, it reeks of political posturing. The idiots in the south are going to latch on to this and catapult trump into 1st in the Republican nomination vote. Scary times are afoot. Edit: Re: Trump's assertion regarding the border, he is right though. Mexican border officials are sending the worst people over the border illegally because they are problems they don't want to have to deal with. The problem with strengthening the border is it's going to do jack all unless you improve the deployment of border guards to also search for, expose and destroy the underground tunnels. There are thousands of them. And Republicans don't seem terribly serious about changing this either. Trump is, which is why to liberals he sounds crazy. The rest of the Republican runners at the moment also distance themselves from it because they'd rather just say they'll do things while doing absolutely nothing useful. (re: Bush) A crazy concept is that of a politician who would do exactly as he says rather than just fill the idiot box and air waves with bull. How scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Like Ambien posted in another thread, murders account for a tiny little percentage of deaths in America anyways. On top of that, around 11000 people die every year from firearms related homicides. This is just one of them. #muhfeelings #logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Am I the only one that kinda LOLed how he's in San Francisco and his name is Francisco Sanchez? no??? ....ok...... Just sounds like someone dropped the ball and didn't notify ICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Like Ambien posted in another thread, murders account for a tiny little percentage of deaths in America anyways. On top of that, around 11000 people die every year from firearms related homicides. This is just one of them. #muhfeelings #logic That's a fantastic point, except it has nothing to do with this thread. #nonsequitur #spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 That's a fantastic point, except it has nothing to do with this thread. #nonsequitur #spam This is a thread about murder in the US. You started it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 This is a thread about murder in the US. You started it. No it isn't -- the premise is very clear from the opening paragraphs in the OP. Please hijack some other thread with your spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 There needs to be more immigration debate, the US needs to secure that Mexican border, because I'm sure ISiS and the rest of these dangerous groups know that the border is porous in the south. The girl that was shot was a stunner, a real life angel Donald Trump is right Trump is an egotistical blowhard real estate agent, who gives real estate agents a bad name. Painting all people from Mexico as rapists, and criminals is just wrong. The backlash against him I hope leads to him dropping his bid, and I hope he has to go under bankruptcy again. The solution it seems to me is try and get rid of the corruption in Mexico, and create decent jobs there so that people don't need to risk being deported, or look to America to find a better life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 No it isn't -- the premise is very clear from the opening paragraphs in the OP. Please hijack some other thread with your spam. Yes it is about murder. The OP chooses a FOX story to change the agenda to his/her liking. #propagandafails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Yes it is about murder. The OP chooses a FOX story to change the agenda to his/her liking. #propagandafails It's not about a murder. It's about governments failing to connect and do their job. The murder is just the unfortunate consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 It's not about a murder. It's about governments failing to connect and do their job. The murder is just the unfortunate consequence. He knows. Just stop responding to his spam / block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It's not about a murder. It's about governments failing to connect and do their job. The murder is just the unfortunate consequence. He knows. Just stop responding to his spam / block. If he didn't kill anyone, there would be no story. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 If he didn't kill anyone, there would be no story. /thread No, but he did. And that lead backwards to the story on the government not doing their job. Which is where we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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