Sedinyoureyesontheprize Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Maketherightmove said: You're asking a lot. Myers is likely a 35 point guy, but he wasn't brought here to be a 50+ point guy. Quinn has that role covered. The irony. You say it’s asking a lot of Myers then turn around and say Quinn a first year player can do it. This forum sometimes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I feel like everyone’s overrating Trouba in this thread. He’s a solid d-man, on par with Ryan Ellis or Alex Edler at his peak. 8 mil/season is getting up there though, you guys think he’s worth it for the next 7 years? I don’t think he’s worth it today, but if the cap keeps going up then I think he’ll be okay in terms of the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 To much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 People call me crazy but I think Hughes and Tryamkin are already better than Trouba and i was hoping we wouldnt give up anything for him. Im on the over rated side of the fence, hopefully for the Rangers sake he proves me wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckpuckluck1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Brock Botanen said: People call me crazy but I think Hughes and Tryamkin are already better than Trouba and i was hoping we wouldnt give up anything for him. Im on the over rated side of the fence, hopefully for the Rangers sake he proves me wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zduck14 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Losing With Pride said: You would take an aging 33 (34 year old next month) recently injury prone dman who's missed 80 games in the past 2 seasons over a 25 year old Trouba? Weber is on the decline and Trouba is in his prime. I know you mentioned building a team to win now but with Weber's foot issues, I would go with Trouba. 6'4 229 Weber - 58GP 14G, 19A, 33Pts +15 6'3 202 Trouba- 82 GP, 8 G, 42A, 50Pts. +8 Both physical of course. I am not sure what you mean by me first American attitude? Ryan Kesler was Ryan Kesler. Trouba wanted out of Winnipeg because of his wife's career situation and he had to play on the left side (as they had enough right handed shots on the depth chart.) https://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/jacob-trouba-trade-rangers-winnipeg-1.32576195 Oh I get the age factor but like I said, in a win now situation, Weber is simply the better player. Weber's leadership on top of being one of the best defensemen in the league really sets him apart from most players in my opinion. I remember asking Dan Hamhuis about Weber the day Weber was traded for Subban and he just shook his head. He said Nashville was crazy because Weber was the ultimate teammate and leader. Something I've never heard about Trouba. Winnipeg wanted him on their team. Drafted him #9 overall and gave him plenty of ice time to develop into the player he is today. For a kid to request a trade at 23 years old and try to specify where he wants to end up is selfish entitlement. He hadn't earned a damn thing the first time he want out. Regarding their production, Weber scored at a 47 point pace. Not exactly declining production if you ask me. And while he's had a couple injuries over the last two years, Trouba has only played a full season twice in 6 seasons. Don't get me wrong, for team rebuilding I'd love to have a player like Trouba but as of right now, Weber is still the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maketherightmove Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 12:38 PM, Setyoureyesontheprize said: The irony. You say it’s asking a lot of Myers then turn around and say Quinn a first year player can do it. This forum sometimes Assuming QH settles in on the first PP unit I think he's a hell of a lot more likely to hit 50 than Myers. Don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 4:31 PM, Brock Botanen said: People call me crazy but I think Hughes and Tryamkin are already better than Trouba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezRG Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 If any of you guys actually watched Trouba this season, you’d know that he was a huge defensive liability and single hand-idly cost the jets game 5 vs the blues (and essentially the series) overpayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 5:22 PM, Maketherightmove said: You're asking a lot. Myers is likely a 35 point guy, but he wasn't brought here to be a 50+ point guy. Quinn has that role covered. Let Myers do the heavy lifting on a Hughes Myers pairing. He should see an uptick in production just playing with Hughes, another uptick getting more ice time and better linemates. Myers is a money puck signing. A secondary guy playing behind others that got the better ice time and zone time. Vancity has a solid middle tier defence with our mix. Depending on Hughes could be a risky plan, being a rookie and all, but I see him as the catalyst that takes our team to the next level. IMO Hughes, Quinn, not Jack, could be in a position to run away with the Calder. The position he is going to be in, is primed to succeed. With the trade price and the cap hit, Myers is better value than Trouba IMO. Never thought the Jets would lose both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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