189lb enforcers?

What a non-troversy.

Earned it.

Not surprised.

Thank you for the answers guys

How so? (I assume you are being serious. If not, never mind) I missed the game today. How did they compete? Did the fatigue result in stick penalties and was that the difference? How did TG manage the ice to conserve their moment and fatigue?

Lol gets the paper bag thing for stating the obvious... To add to the crap coach comment, it’s kind of tragic that the fans who’d shout you down because they’re “good fans” apparently want to use the virus excuse to explain away the results. It’s not that you or I’d disagree with the players being bagged, not at all. They for sure are. So, manage the ice accordingly, TG. How hard is it to adapt to the game conditions, which is mainly fatigue in this case. It’s like a foreign concept here to even imagine a coach suddenly deploying a good old NYD conservative system to keep the players lungs from burning up. The guy has no plan B, even for something so predictable and obvious as this. He could have switched to a more conservative game to manage their energy levels. This is 101 stuff at this level. Yet posters would rather blame the symptom and not the root. TG didn’t do enough to adapt his deployment or strategy. Stealth Tank, JB?

JB’s classic accidental rebuild with yet another cap team. At this point, do not fire Benning! Hell no... Instead, let him keep “managing” this rebuild with the most expensive lottery tickets in the history of the league. Serves Aquaman right. Maybe JB should get into sales once he does get fired... the guy could sell anything.

Well, if you need it to keep going, fine... All good, let’s have some banter then. Since you fired a shot at me via the comment that I’m somehow stuck in the 80s-hockey, I’d like to return it by stating that your drama-laiden, immature viewpoints on the topic showcases, rather explicitly, that you don’t know what you don’t know. Too bad you missed the 80s, I assume, because it would have exposed you to “intent” to injure, and yes there were a lot of those plays to learn from. ... compares Edler’s knee to Matthews’ and wonders why the DoPS didn’t throw the book at AM too... Take a knee already, dude. It’s obvious that you don’t understand the difference between a knee-on-knee hit, and a literal kneeing. Nor do you understand how potential is paramount in assessing intent. Players know what is at stake when they make cheap plays. That’s the Golden Rule of lore, stuff. The Mathews knee looked like he lifted it while he was barely moving, as was his check, when he lifted his knee into the guy. That is not the same as what Edler did, at all. Why even bother trying to conflate the two to make a point about DoPS consistency? Sure, both are dirty and unsportsmanlike plays, no question. None. But they are different plays, potential for injury-wise, period. The potential from each instance: one being a Charlie horse, while the other is career ending damages. DOPS knows this, as will any trainer, coach, etc. Apparently, you do not... It’s not even debatable. You’re so hung-up on a complaint about the DoPS that you’re going to die on a tiny molehill you’ve made. Our opinions are shaped by own own experiences. Ours must be radically different, concerning the topic of hitting, injuries and kneeing in hockey. I’m not here to change your mind, but to instead provide readers with a different perspective. I think I’ve done that, twice now, and should have nothing to add in a rebuttal to anything you might want to conclude with. Ill be around to read anything if you wish to respond, of course. That’s part of the fun. I don’t care if you want to virtue signal-martyr yourself regarding DoPS consistency on your molehill, but at least readers will see that not all posters and Canucks fans on here agree with your perceptions of these plays. This concludes this public service announcement from 189.

Yeah, I don’t know man, I’m not here to change anyone’s mind. The word ‘argument’ has a few meanings. Vernacular or semantics, take your pick, but I don’t argue as much as I’ll craft an argument. You make it sound so lame No need to elaborate or provide a rebuttal. You’re welcome to your own opinions, which I assume are shaped by your own experiences. I’ll leave it at that.

Haha awesome

It’s pretty tough to compare drafting in the top 4-10 vs everything else. I wouldn’t even know how to use stats and probability to make a point regarding how much more opportunity for success you’d have drafting at those levels, in consecutive rounds, for consecutive years. Although I think that there is no way I’d call JB a Draft God, because he has some gaffs, but at the same time he deserves credit as being better than average, which at some point crosses into “good”. Is he a good drafter? To access that, you’ll have to do the math. Of course it’s easy to assert that you can predict the success of rebuilding empty prospect-cupboards and drafting a core if you’re picking in the top 10 for years on end. I’ve not been able to find any post, article or otherwise to prove that JB is a good drafter, measured against draft position and quantity of picks used, and where. I’ve seen it danced around and even read things regarding how bad he is, but I’m still on the fence. That JV pick and then the OJ pick really soured me at the time, although I understood the optics and logic behind them at the time. Since then, yes, I’ve been cynical. Of course, this discussion can’t be had without pivoting back to questioning why... why would JB have chose not to build via more draft picks, if this was the organization’s strong suit? It sets up a paradox. I’d like to see a quantifiable assessment of his drafting which can account for all the variables. I’d especially just like to know why the guy didn’t acquire more picks, if he was real gud at drafting, during a rebuild. I assume that he felt he was more likely to succeed on the route he did take, resulting in my infamous tag The accidental rebuild; cap teams picking with lotto tickets. Imagine where the core and pool might be if he actually tried to be in a position to pick high in the draft? Despite himself, JB - with his cap roster vision managed to do a good job of rebuilding a new core here. A guy that lucky HAS to be good (you know the saying...) I’ll take a lucky GM any day. I just wish it’d rub off on the Canucks Luck too.

Can’t wait for ugly-sister Ottawa to start claiming those honours after this season.

Brady Tkachuk vs the Canucks

“Just a slider. Ughhh hahaha” Playing on loop. I love John Garrett.

Decent game by the Canucks, give them credit. They must be bagged. Rough night for BS Dave. Gotta feel for the guy. Nobody likes to see that, because nobody wants it for themselves. His coach is just as unimpressive as the new bench boss is over in MTL. How can a team as good on paper as the Leafs are, be so bad on the ice? How does Dumbas still have a job as GM?

It’s completely bizarre to me to be arguing about something so obvious, but maybe not many have played the game hard enough to have done these things enough times to know the difference between the two plays. There is so much going on in your post that suggests to me that we have radically different experiences shaping our perceptions of these plays.

You think that’s the same? Theres next to no momentum there, and that knee is more of a MMA knee than the cliche knee on knee, like the one Edler stuck out. Different potentials all together, IMO

I get that. not going to disagree. That’s not what page one of the thread, etc., is fired up about though. At the end of the day, it’s still Sports Entertainment though, and just like the old WWF, much of the outcome is predetermined, at least to the best of the “officials” ability to influence the desired outcomes.

Logged in just to up-vote this post. 6 pages in, was the first post seemingly written by someone who saw it like I did and I didn’t need to see a replay because I’ve done it, it was done to me, etc. Was it dirty? Well it sure as puck wasn’t clean or sportsmanlike. Was it intentional? Absolutely, he meant to knee a guy, not maliciously, but he did exactly what wrecks careers. Edler has a reputation for questionable hits. I just wish he had the reputation of backing them up in a scrum too. I also wish he’d hit harder and more often. And I wish we had a whole Dcore doing the same.

Patty Marleau. What a career. As good of a person as he is a player.

Eugene and Springfield, Florence too, are some of the coolest little cities I’ve been to. Why not...

Poor kids. This is their Stanley Cup.

Maybe he shouldn’t!

Lol The Leafs

I wonder what Bo weighs right now; his face has never looked so thin.