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100 pt “pace”. It’s 2 + 8 + ((100/82) x 72) = 98

Yeah but we are also 1 guy short who can provide a decent celly

Complete speculation out of my end but maybe it does have something to do with COVID. Players and management prolly upset with how the wife was openly admitting to breaking protocols in some interview? Again just speculation

You never really know with this management group but I suspect that they have a plan. Might not be something we necessarily like or agree with but they have to have one in order to be able to sign deals like TPs. If I were to take a guess I could see a potential Loui buyout, a trade of one of Or both Beagle/Roussel, and maybe them banking on the Kraken taking Holtby (I highly doubt it tho with his performance this year)

Ya well tell that to the guy who actually made this post

This was definitely written pre-maturely and then edited pre-maturely. I’m not saying we make the playoffs but it’s obviously still within reach. — Win out against Montreal ur in a playoff spot. Considering how many games we have left against OTT, and if we beat EDM in our remaining bouts we’re in a playoff spot. Still tons of pathways to the playoffs. Again I’m not saying definitively we will make it, but we can’t rule it out *at this point

"there was no way to make up the ground" not saying this happens but TECHNICALLY, let's say that the only team left within reach is EDM hence (TOR,WPG and MTL secure top 3). we are 10 points behind with games in hand factored in and play them 6 more times. This is theoretically one the "ways" to make up ground, is to win 5/6 games at least against EDM. Having said that I think we miss the playoffs by like 10ish points

If it were this year and they wanted Quinn NJD gets: Quinn, Loui, Roussel VAN gets: 1st this year unprotected, 1st next year, a 2nd, Severson, Ty Smith, Merkley, Foote + future considerations basically if you want the only "franchise" dman we've ever had then you're gonna have to give us your entire future LOL

You know what’s crazy about this? if we just handed Demko the reigns all out and not paid Holtby 4.5M + let Jake walk this could have been possible

So does anyone know if Aquaman still trusts this management? 2-9-2 and in 3rd last of league standings with both DET and OTT having 2 games in hand on us. I don’t care if you look at this problem either top-down or bottom-up, something needs to change! You could argue players are better than this but lack of effort is noticeable, so it could be on them. maybe it’s the coach’s fault for not getting the guys to buy in. Or maybe this group just isn’t good enough which is ultimately JBs fault. How far we’ve fallen since last years playoffs

I think this post is titled exactly how it is... "almost" out of reach. As much I want to remain optimistic about our playoff chances, the reality is that we're currently on pace to not do so. However, I think it's important you take into account that, yes, while it's only divisional games and a team will always be getting points, this also means that a team is not getting points\losing. If we just take these next few games for example, if the Canucks can go 4-0 this drastically changes the % of us making it to the playoffs. just looking at the schedule for each of the teams we're chasing: WPG, EDM & CGY --- look what a 4 game winning streak and a conservative prediction for the other teams' 4 games could do. WPG: 2-2(2 losses against VAN) \ 23pts - 20gp (0.575P%) EDM: 2-2(2 losses against VAN\2 wins against CGY) \ 24pts - 22gp (0.545P%) CGY: 2-2(2 losses against EDM\2 wins against TOR| \ 21pts - 20gp (0.525P%) VAN: 4-0 \ 25pts - 24gp (0.521P%) just like that we're back in the race especially considering we realistically only have to beat out EDM & CGY for that 4th spot AND we play them each about 5 more times. I still think it's relatively early to completely count us out since the outlook could look completely different in a week due to divisional games, but hey, if we don't go 4-0 as I mentioned above it only becomes a steeper hill to climb.

Can you stop trying to defend your heinous comment. No boeser can’t walk because 1. He’s an RFA 2. All those you mentioned were in the last stretch of their career looking to get one more shot at the cup. 3. Boeser has stated many times to the media he wants to stay, now unless he comes out and says otherwise or u have proof of him wanting out, don’t assume “he’s likely to walk” even though that’s not possible. 4. Did you really suggest Bo might do the same? One thing I will say about Benning is that he’s fostered a group of very “character” guys. Now why would Bo, who just received the honour of wearing the C walk? Until these guys actually come out and say these things just stop

Very unlikely. Drafted here, been through good and bad times, and just got captaincy. Only way he walks is if this team absolutely goes down the hill or management refuses to pay.

Not saying they’re right but to be fair Rafferty, Juolevi and Rathbone don’t even play LOL. But I see you’re point

You can’t blame the player for signing a multi million deal. JB offered it. Not to mention Myers makes 6M, Beagle + Roussel make 6M, Edler makes 6M, the list goes on. Just evidence of some very poor cap allocation.

Yeah sounds about right, should prolly use that cap to fix this horrid dcore

It’s no secret petey is struggling to start off the season and while I think he’ll turn it around... IF he continues at this pace or let’s say hits somewhere around 30ish points, do you guys think this could lead to a boeser type contract (3 year bridge at around 7M per)?? Any cap help next year is needed haha

Unless someone is shipped out or they know Ferland is not going to start this season expect a lineup of: Miller - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Virtanen/Hoglander Roussel - Gaudette - Ferland MacEwen - Beagle - Motte Virtanen/Hoglander, Sutter ***Eriksson & Baertschi in minors Hughes - Schmidt Edler - Rafferty Juolevi - Myers Benn Demko Holtby there’s literally no room for additions once Gaudette and Virtanen sign their contracts

I’ll admit at the start of the day I was P’offed that we lost Toffoli, Tanev, Stecher, and our MVP for nothing. But after some time and hearing about this trade we honestly aren’t too far off from what we were last year. Most people forget we were holding 1st in the pacific without Toffoli. Toffoli was brought in to replace Boeser. Playoffs come and we go through Minny and the defending champs, again without Toffoli. Yes it hurts that we lost madden and a 2nd but we just gotta live with that. Now, if Holtby and Demko can hold the forth in a compact season, hopefully add one more RHD, inject some youth like Juolevi and Hoglander and improve internally through Petey, Horvat, Boeser, and Hughes I honestly think we’re in a good spot. Worst case, we crap the bed and get Luke Hughes LOL

Exactly which makes the cap situation even worse. There is literally no room to operate in terms of signings because of what I thought was the biggest issue, “term”. You just gotta hope someone bites on one the Eriksson/Roussel/Beagle contracts or if Ferland calls it quits. Maybe it becomes easier in the season when they only have a year left? We’ll see

I used the Roussel and Beagle contracts as the examples but the list includes Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle and Ferland. If you actually run the numbers, it’s a lot tighter than you think for next season. The season where we finally have “space” is the 22/23 season 21/22: This is how it looks “Assuming” you get Petey/Hughes/Demko at a combined 19M AND Pod/Hog/Rathbone can step in. Again had Roussel and Beagle or even Eriksson a year shorter we could’ve had a lot more space to work with which is why i think the “term” was the biggest issue. Not denying their impact in our playoff run but I think the fact they’re on this team for another 2 years, and not expiring the same time Petey/Hughes are up for their extension is poorly planned out. Boeser (5.88M) - Pettersson (8M) - Miller (5.25M) Podkolzin (0.925M) - Horvat (5.5M) - Virtanen (3M) Ferland (3.5M) - Gaudette (2M) - Hoglander (0.892M) MacEwen (0.825M) - Beagle (3M) - Motte (1.23M) Roussel (3M) - Eriksson (6M) Hughes (8M) - Myers (6M) Rathbone (0.925M) - XXX Juolevi (1M) - XXX Rafferty (1M) Demko (3M) Holtby (4.3M) Luongo (3.04M) CAP SPACE: 5.2M REMAINING SPOTS: 2 Dmen

Benning is banking on our prized 5ova pick in ‘16 to replace Tanev, and our AHL all-star dman to step in for Stecher. Hughes - Myers Edler - Juolevi Rafferty - Benn

Honestly what’s really screwing us is the term he’s given. I don’t mind having Roussel and Beagle at 3M to bridge that gap for our youth to develop but it was planned so poorly in terms of how it aligned with Hughes and Peteys extension year. Had it been a year or two less we wouldn’t be in such a hole. However, to be fair no one expected these two to be 8M+ players coming out of their ELCs so that’s one thing.

After ringing up some numbers, the team has room for one more acquisition assuming they don’t get rid of any more contracts. And sadly I think Barrie fills that void perfectly if he doesn’t ask too much. Looking at all the hypotheticals, even with the substitutions of Pearson, Sutter, Baertschi, Spooner, Benn and Edler contracts in 21/22, if Petey and Hughes command a floor of 17M between the two of them this team will be in serious cap trouble if it wasn’t already apparent. They really need to ship out some contracts and just ride the wave and improve internally. 20/21 Season (***asterix are conditionals/estimate) Boeser (5.88M) - Pettersson (0.925M) - Miller (5.25M) Pearson (3.75M) - Horvat (5.5M) - Virtanen (3M)*** Ferland (3.5M) - Gaudette (2M)*** - Hoglander (0.892M) MacEwen (0.825M) - Beagle (3M) - Motte (1.23M) Roussel (3M), Sutter (4.38M) Buried Contracts/Overages/Buyouts = Eriksson (5M), Baertschi (2.37M), Spooner (1.03M), Luongo (3.04M) Hughes (0.917M) - Myers (6M) Edler (6M) - XXX Juolevi (0.863M) - Benn (2M) Rafferty (0.7M) Demko (1.05M) Holtby (4.3M) CAP SPACE: 5.1M REMAINING SPOTS: 1

That’s fair but you’re also not taking into account the players that are still unsigned. 40mil of free cap space but as presently constructed you’re missing about 13 roster players. 8M Petey, 8M Quinn, 8.25M OEL, 5.5M Marky. You look at it like this you’re left with 10M to sign approx 8-9 more skaters Miller - Pettersson- Boeser XXX - Horvat - XXX Ferland - XXX - Roussel MacEwen - Beagle - XXX (Eriksson) Hughes - Myers OEL - XXX Rathbone - XXX (2 Extra Skaters) Markstrom XXX