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1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said:Not happening. At all.
Horvat will be traded sorry canuckle fans
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22 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:
Or, crazy idea keep both because depth is great. Especially depth that can play C
We will lose Bo to free agency we don’t have cap for him and be Able upgrade our D
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This is great move IMO. Give him the C and trade Bo for top 4 d
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36 minutes ago, Boknows08 said:
Something around Miller, Schenn for Mayfield, Wilde, Raty and 23 2nd? Mayfield is kind of like a stop gap for a couple years while Wilde grooms to be Quinn's partner.
Something has to give Horvat and miller are both left unsigned for season which is bad news. I’d like see this happen Miller Resigned 7x8.85
Canucks Trade Horvat, Dickson, Dipetro To Devils For Haula, Sverson, Walsh
Canucks trade Hoglander Dermott To Islanders Mayfield
Canucks line up
Podz Miller Boeser
Kuz Petey Garland
Pearson Haula Mikheyvev
Lockwood Joseph Lazar
Ek Sverson
Hughes Mayfield
Rathbone Myers
Schenn/Walsh
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2 hours ago, IBatch said:
This is space cadet level dreaming. Miller is getting us a decent return, but nothing like this. If we want Dobson, it starts with QHs ... i'd say EP but can't see why they wouldn't want a defenseman back with Barzal already in the lineup. Would you do that? QHs for Dobson straight across?
I don’t see any where or any level how Dobson is as valuable as Hughes or Petey guys put up 72 points in his career and is -3 we’ll playing for one of best defensive coach’s ever with great shutdown partner. Well hughes put that up in one year. Petey and Miller are also 70 point player on a bad year. Guys put up 99 points don’t grow on trees. You guys need quit undervaluing what miller has done as Canuck. Islanders need and want to improve in scoring there number 1 priority you want 99 point guy pony up.
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Miller Pearson 2024 2nd for Dobson Beauvillier,
Miller resigns 7x8 Dobson signs 6x6.85
Islanders had 11.5 move out 4.25 Cap space=15.75. Miller 5.25 Pearson 3.25 Kadri 7.2=15.7
Canucks Negative 1.0 cap space Move out 8.5=7.5 cap space Ferland ltir 3.5=11 million cap space Dobson 6.85 Beauvillier 4.25=11 million. Let’s goooo.
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16 minutes ago, Alflives said:
We will want Newhook but not Girard.
Ya I’m not huge on girard just strikes me as player jt alvin describe they want on there defense.
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Kadri signs with Islanders. I wonder if we could slide Newhook And girard off Avs.
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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:
Our management says they want us to be harder to play against, right? So maybe they don’t like Holtz, who is a softeroo?
I agree I’m not as high on holtz as I am Walsh. Future D of Hughes rathbone Sverson Walsh I could get down with. But I’d definitely be trying add Pearson in the deal and 3rd piece if it wasn’t McLeod maybe Boqvist or Foote.
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2 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said:
Forward depth without Miller but adding Holtz would be:
Podkolzin Pettersson Boeser
Kuzmenko Horvat Holtz
Mikhayev Lazar Garland
Pearson Joshua Lockwood
But the main reason for the move would be:
Ekman-Larsson Klingberg
Hughes Severson
Rathbone Myers
Likely Pearson and Myers move for cap room, but we do need a longer term 3C still. Much easier to find than a 1RD and 2RD.
I just find hard believe if Sverson plus holtz was there it would be already done.
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Just now, DeNiro said:
That’s the the type of return that we need.
Projects like Walsh and McLeod do nothing to move the needle for us. And Severson could very well walk on us next offseason.
If we’re not getting a stud young D then we need a legit forward prospect.
Walsh looks far from project he might be our right handed Hughes. Obviously the trade would only be done with extensions in place. McLeod started look like solid 3rd line centre near end year I just don’t think the big package is there for miller or it would be done.
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1 minute ago, Kobayashi Maru said:
That would work too as long as McLeod has been confirmed to not be part of the investigation or found guilty in any way.
Either way, I still feel adding Severson (+prospect/pick or two) and Klingberg at the expense of Miller moves us much further along. It secures our D for years and doesn't block our immense winger depth from progressing. Balances the team much better for the contract we have with Demko and Hughes.
I agree I’m just not sure of forward depth with miller gone in that package. I’d like add Pearson in deal to sign guy like Rodrigues.
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1 minute ago, Alflives said:
That would be wonderful to dumperoo Pearson. And to get such a great return! Wow!
Excactly I’d take that package without picks if it meant we could dump Pearson which might be okay with devils with such young team. Then finding taker for Myers for klingberg would be insane.
Oe Klingberg
Hughes Sverson
Rathbone schenn
dermott
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7 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said:
If these were the options I would rank them as follows:
1. Klingberg (6Mx4) + Severson/Holtz (From Miller trade)
2. Klingberg (6Mx4) + Necas/Morrow (From Miller trade)
3. Sign Miller for 8Mx7
Unless the market is dead for Miller or Klingberg wants nothing to do with Van I don’t see how the moving Miller option isn’t a better one. First one covers the top 4 D for many years.
I’d dream of this happening Pearson Miller For Sverson Walsh McLeod.
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4 hours ago, Pears said:
On $&!# teams yes the year he had decent linemates he put up almost 30 goals. Anderson is built for playoffs. A line of Podz Horvat Anderson would be absolute handful and tough play against.
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15 minutes ago, Pears said:
That’s quite the increase in price from your suggestion of Petry/Anderson/3rd from a few weeks ago…
Not really I think Petry is better player then Sverson even at his age. Anderson is proven leader top 6 forward good for 20-35 goals. Holtz is unproven and far from sure thing hence why I ask for first.
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2 minutes ago, Pears said:
Yeah. Reports from a couple of weeks ago were the return for Miller would be north of what Fiala got Minnesota, which was a top RD prospect and a 1st. If the Rangers don’t want to part with Schneider then so be it, but if it’s the Avs I’m looking at Newhook++.
Im Glad jt and Alvin know the value of there player. The ask should Be Jt Miller Pearson 2023 3rd To Devils Sverson Holtz 2023 1st top 10 protected.
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1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said:
All of the trade proposal ideas for Miller over the last 6 months, dreaming of adding some good prospects, 1st round draft pick, good young players.
Now it looks like JR/PA are prepared to take a swing at playoffs with Miller and then if he walks at the end of the season, oh well. Heck of a gamble.
I don't think a Miller trade is going to happen. JR/PA are probably afraid how the team will do without him.
I guess no playoffs and Miller walking after next season would be considered a disaster, huh?
That’s been problem with Canucks in last 7 years there okay with scraping by and losing in 1st round. If we don’t feel like we have deep team to go deep aim for high picks prospects. That’s why I’d be okay with sucking without miller for prospects picks and assists in deepest draft in last 10 years.
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3 minutes ago, Timråfan said:
Was it so bad after BB let players going forward instead of Greens tactics?
Who is gonna do the forward transition on the right side?
Hughes take care of the left and if OEL can take care of the right side, similar to Theodore, BB have a lot more options.
No one sign subban. Trade Pearson Dermott 2023 4th to Islanders Wilde Mayfield.
Oe Mayfield
Hughes Subban
Rath Myers
Schenn
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11 minutes ago, ButterBean said:
Poolman in the top 4? No thanks would rather have Burroughs
Is it possible poolman,Ferland Ltir. Dickson in minors how much cap would that free up for us.
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12 minutes ago, Timråfan said:
Is it so bad?
Hughes/Schenn worked out good.
OEL with Dermott can be fun and a stay at home Myers can excel.
It’s bad there was reason we gave up near top in shots and scoring chances against. Going into season with four 5 or 6 dmen is recipe for disaster.
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1 minute ago, Timråfan said:
Test Hughes Schenn
Dermptt OEL
Rathbone. Myers
There’s no way we can go into season with that defense if we wanna be playoff team . Maybe if we’re in for tank for bedard.
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Would you guys rage if?
Jt Miller Dermott to Islanders Mayfield beauvillier 2023 1st.
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9 minutes ago, Slegr said:
The fact Miller is still a Canuck tells me the offers for him weren’t great. And why would they be? He’s a year out from UFA status. Honestly, maybe the Canucks just ride it out, rather than receive junk in return. Another year of Miller leading by example could have a strong impact on the younger players.
I think it’s cause Alvin and Ruthford know his value to our team and asking for a ton cause we won’t replace his value to our team in a trade.
[Signing] Canucks re-sign J.T. Miller
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Unless we wanna pay horvat close to miller next year to be 3rd line centre it only makes sense