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  1. Which is understandable, but then again, they could've made it simple and just had it a lottery protected pick this year if Bedard was their only concern. If anything, I'd assume it would be more related to if they can re-sign Bo. Without Bo for them next year, they could be a team in big trouble.
  2. Doesn't make too much sense, why didn't they just make it lottery protected then and keep it simple?
  3. If he flips him at the TDL, that means they are well out of playoff contention. Which means that we likely get their unprotected 2024 1st instead from an aging roster that doesn't have a Bo Horvat on the team. We could be getting a top 10 pick along with Raty. What return are they going to get a late 1st and a prospect? They won't be getting anything significant to improve their team for next season most likely.
  4. It's a game of chicken. Offers could get better or they could get worse if they decide to go with another cheaper route leaving fewer teams available to bid against each other. And teams know we have a time crunch with a pending UFA so the closer we get to the deadline puts more pressure on us as well and might just take whatever is available worrying that we could lose him for nothing. It's a buyers market, they have the leverage this year given the little cap space. We took advantage of a team that isn't even in the playoffs and may not even make it. The value of that 1st is greater than any contender could offer and whatever prospect they give up will be no different than Raty. No contender is offering up any proven young player as they need them just as much as we would.
  5. We face each other in about 10 days, he can say his goodbyes personally then. In the meantime we live in a digital age. I understand this management group has done some sketchy things, this isn't one of them.
  6. We face NYI on Feb 10, plenty of time for him to say what he needs to say whatever he needs to say to the team by then. I doubt there's any better offer by waiting a week. If another team wanted to jump in with a better offer, they had plenty of time to do so as we had been fielding calls for Horvat for a while now. Waiting goes both ways as yes there's a possibility we could squeak out a bit more, but there is also the very realistic possibility that team's stick firm to their offers or start adding other available players taking them out of the race which then benefits the remaining teams for leverage as we inch closer to the deadline of letting Bo walk for nothing. We made the trade, which is a decent one given the circumstances. There was no indication and no facts that there was any better offer on the table. NYI is a desperate team right now. If we waited for them to fall further, this offer may not even be available in a month or they would've added someone else instead.
  7. It would appear the ones that are most disappointed in this trade felt like we could get much more value for a pending UFA. It's also a buyers market given the cap climate. The ones annoyed that we didn't wait longer, what are we waiting for? Perhaps we could've waited and maybe squeaked out another assets, but it's just as possible that these teams decide to go with another player or play hard ball as we inch closer to the TDL and we lose him for nothing as he walks to UFA. No guarantee that he would've gotten more closer to the TDL. Also moving him now helps our "tank".
  8. Bingo! A good valued 1st round pick, an excellent prospect in Raty and Beauvillier could be a low-key decent add. Beauvillier is only 25 years old and former 1st round pick. Had some pretty decent junior numbers and cracked the NHL right away. Near 500 games played already at about 0.5ppg career pace. Don't think he's been on a line with a player like Petey before, so perhaps he could see his offensive output elevated.
  9. NYI had slipped after a decent start to the year. I would think Lou is feeling the pressure right now given that his team is one of the oldest and hasn't accomplished much. This is an exact team to try and sneak a deal from out of desperation.
  10. Yeah got a good prospect in Raty and a calculated move with the 1st. They may squeak into the playoffs, but likely a first round exit making it at worse a top 20 pick or so. At best, NYI falters and we get somewhere between 13-16. Or NYI drops big time, keeps their pick this year and they look like they might be in big trouble next year with their aging roster and uncertainty if they can even re-sign Bo for next season as well without overpaying. If we made a trade with a real contender, the pick is going to be in the low range and they might not be willing to part with one of their premium prospects to make up the difference anyway.
  11. Perhaps we could have gotten something better for Miller, but at the same time, we weren't pressured to make a deal because he wasn't a pending UFA. Horvat is one now and we got the best we could. What's done is done. Can't be pissed at this trade on a what if/maybe on something previous. Looking at this trade in a vacuum and it's a fine trade given the circumstances.
  12. We aren't getting a proven young C with a mid range 1st round pick for a pending UFA. We got a pick, prospect and roster player. It's pretty standard.
  13. We called Bo "The Ox" before because of his ability to potentially carry a team on his back. NYI are a structured defensive team (at least they were before, not too sure how Lane Lambert has changed their team this year) and having Bo to win them possession more often will only help with that. They also lacked go scoring which Bo should help with given his production this year. I think they still need to make another addition, but Bo gets them in the right direction for this season.
  14. I think what I cared most about Raty is if he's a faceoff guy and while a small sample size at the NHL level, he's at 52% this year. So hopefully he's a true centers and not one of those made to be wing types. Good size and skill also, could end up being a top 6 C for us. The added 1st to hopefully land a dman and a project in Beauvillier is hopefully just the cherry on top.
  15. Yeah I can't see them interested in Demko, but as I mentioned, they might make a move for Horvat and we trade Demko elsewhere for a center replacement.
  16. I would suspect that maybe we can't get the deal we want by moving Horvat alone, so perhaps we are looking to flip Horvat for a package that includes a goalie. Then move Demko for a package that involves a center.
  17. This is something that should be resolved on the ice. I think April 8th is when they next meet. I suspect Zegras will be away for that game for whatever reason though.
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