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I care, because that likely still leaves 2-3 years left on his deal and that's an issue. I'm also not sold on our being rebuilding then. It also gives us a huge cap headache during a time period where Podz, Hughes, Pettersson, and Demko should still be near the top of their game. I've said it repeatedly, trading Miller doesn't mean a teardown will ensue, I don't see why we couldn't be competitive as early as next season without him.

I don't think they'll lose enough for us to gain on them, I fully expect them to make it We're at the mercy of the out of town scoreboard at this point, I don't see us making it, we'd have to be perfect and that's extremely unlikely

Yes, but what the twins accomplished in Vancouver and what they mean to this city and team are something else entirely. Miller does not even begin to enter that realm. The Sedin experience was a once in a franchise occurrence and we were especially fortunate that we had two of them. The twins taking those contracts was something else entirely, and done under different management. If I'm not mistaken Linden was still around too? Negotiations with the twins, and their having been what they were while spending their entire career here, there's nothing else in the history of this franchise that's comparable. Comparing Miller and the Sedin's is a false equivalency. They also took four year deals that walked them right to retirement, Miller is not going to be taking a four year deal at thirty years old. What did Hansen think of those deals? Well, we don't know, but the twins weren't ever going anywhere else. Impossible? You might be in for a surprise then. Equal? We'll see, that depends on what his value actually is. What we think his value is, what management thinks his value is, what Miller and his agent think his value is, and what other GM's think it is are likely very different things, and that value is likely always shifting. We'd also get cap space, having decided not not spend what'll likely be 8.5-9M+ on Miller on top of whatever we actually get in return. That's significant.

Depends on what he wants, and what it'd take to reel him in to a team that hasn't done much in recent memory. We wouldn't be the only suitor.

So you're saying Jim got something right?

Podz is gonna be fun to watch in a top six role next season

Petey's smart enough defensively to be part of a Pettersson/Horvat 1-2 punch next season Just needs to practice draws over the summer

Knights win

Also, if we're playing that game, JT Miller hasn't won anything at the professional level. At least Hansen's won a Gagarin cup.

Maybe, but he's also an NHL player who played 626 regular season games so he's been around the game, players, management, and locker rooms long enough to know what he's talking about. Whether he's won anything at the NHL level or not doesn't diminish anything he said.

You answered your own question. Lot of folks have concerns regarding how he'll age in comparison to the contract he'll be able to get. He's a top player this season, recency bias has historically played into contracts, but he'll also be 30 years old when his contract kicks in. He will not come cheap, he will get long term, and him and his agent hold all the leverage during negotiations this offseason given the season he's had. You don't have to want to trade him, but fans aren't the only ones with concerns. Hansen, a guy who actually played in the league and for the Canucks and who typically has some good takes, had this to say.

He's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast, and he's gotta score 20 or more

Yup, I liked Motte too but some folks get too attached to bottom six players who are more easily replaced than they think

Lockwood's feisty, he'll replace Motte just fine

So what you're saying is we aren't gonna score at all?

Much better

Boooooo, this song sucks

He will now

That's Bo Scorevat to you Mr. announcer

Skinner up to 30 goals in Buffalo, gotta wonder what the hell was going on under Krueger

And one of the teams we're chasing, Dallas, is actually pretty average but has a stellar OT/shootout record having gone 14-0-4 in the extra frame Funny how that works out

Yup, fully aware he hasn't lit the world on fire in San Jose, but what could have been here? Hard to say.

I see that more being Pettersson being Pettersson than Chaisson possessing some sort of chemisty. He's an NHL'er who's won a cup, he's not gonna be lost out there, but I think other players would probably look good playing with Pettersson too. Gadjovich wasn't fast, but he'd been showing upside in his ability to score at the AHL level whereas Chaisson is a finished product at this point. Losing Gadjvoich was on Benning and Green, though I'm not sure timing would have made much of a difference. The reasons fans are frustrated with our losing him are the same reasons San Jose nabbed him, it's likely he'd have been nabbed anyway. Big, young, soft hands, willing to play a role player role. He was young enough to be more than a plug, he maybe could have had a similar season as Chaisson, it's not as if he's set the world on fire.