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Just now, Sean Monahan said:
Edvinsson’s puck skills and skating are far superior IMO. Phaneuf had a bomb of a shot whereas Edvinsson’s shot leaves something to be desired.
Phaneuf definitely put up numbers in his younger years, I just think he did it a very different way than Edvinsson maybe will.
That remains to be seen. I think Edvinsson is at least a #2, so is Hughes, we get these two guys going they'll eat a bunch of minutes. Either way, we'll need a replacement for Edler and Juolevi might not cut it.
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6 minutes ago, Sean Monahan said:
From the little bit I’ve seen of Edvinsson I’d say he’d absolutely skate circles around Dion.
Edvinsson is definitely faster but Phaneuf was drafted around the same spot Edvinsson will be, they have similar offensive acumen, they're around the same size I thought it was a good comparison
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1 hour ago, AC Readership said:
No doubt in my mind the Canucks will be a bottom 10 team again next year, too many holes in the lineup and shall be very hard to even resign the RFAs.
I agree
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8 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:
Ummmm. I'm not sure what to make of any of this. First you seem to imply that Edvinsson has a strong defensive game. Edvinsson's defensive game is clearly the worst of any of the the top defensemen in this draft (Hughes, Clarke, Power, Edvinsson, Lambos, Ceuleman).
But then you compare Edvinsson to Ristolainen, an assessment that there actually seems to be a lot of wisdom behind. Big, strong, physical, great skater, highly skilled offensively, and notoriously horrendous defensively. It really is a great comparison, and I can't believe I hadn't though of it before.
I'm just not sure what to make of the other part, where you say Hughes doesn't have a strong defensive game like Edvinsson. Perhaps I misundertood, and you meant "Hughes, like Edvinsson, doesn't have a strong defensive game." But I disagree. From what I've seen I actually quite like Hughes defensive game, certainly much better than Edvinsson's.
From what I've seen of Edvinsson, he's better defensively than you think. Does either defender have a noticeably better defensive game? Now that I think about it, probably not. I haven't seen a lot of either player but they're probably about even. I think we need to focus on getting a defensive defenseman to play with Hughes. This might sound nuts, but Corson Ceulemans who is a player outside the top 15 would be a great fit for the Hughes pairing. He's also a righty. With that being said, he also makes Woo redundant and I think Woo can be a solid middle-pairing guy.
Circling back to Edvinsson, I've read scouting reports that seem to imply that he can improve. That's what I meant when I said his defensive game is better when what I should've said is that Edvinsson has more potential to be more of a defensive guy than Luke. I've read great things about his wingspan. A stronger comparison than Ristolainen would probably be Dion Phaneuf, who was a fine player for years. Also, we already have a strong offensive defender in Quinn and two decent ones in Myers and Schmidt. In additionally, we've got Juolevi who I think is a strong defensive #3 or #4 guy. We bring in Edvinsson/Hughes/Clarke, our D is a lot better than people think. Than look at next year, there's like 6 or 7 centers in the top 20. We get another C, all of a sudden we've got four solid options down the middle for the top six (2022 1st, Pettersson, Miller and Horvat) and we're off the races.
This team will turn around.
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1 minute ago, DontMessMe said:
But... Buuuuuuttt Brian Burke drafted the Sedin twins together
That was about chemistry not about the fact that they're brothers as I'm sure you're aware
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21 minutes ago, iinatcc said:
Trade Miller ?
If I were to pick one or the other. I would rather use any Miller money in Reinhart than paying Miller's extension.
That said with Miller turning 29 I would try to make Reinhart and Miller work. So I suppose this would depend on the kind of bridge deal Pettersson and Hughes get.
Buffalo could use Miller as a 2C and he's only three years older than Reinhart. That's a small enough gap to make it palatable for Buffalo but I don't think it makes sense for either team. Sam Reinhart might be a better fit in Los Angeles maybe in exchange for a guy like Vilardi. After all, the Kings have three good centers with Kopitar under contract for three years. They've got some veterans who still want to try to win, I think Vilardi for Reinhart makes a lot more sense than anything we could offer up
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1 minute ago, R3aL said:
Ya hope that entire brother bit you went on about had nothing to do with what I said lolz
Other than that fair points and could very well be the best dmen available I don’t know. I acknowledged they could be the best for sure and lots of scouts rankinga have them high. With most having power at 1
i see more Myers then I see hedman from the Very little I’ve seen of the big swede
me liking Luke has nothing to do with being Quinn’s brother.
Yeah I think Edvinsson is comparable to a guy like Ristolainen
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4 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said:
Its coming you just wait. We adding podz and the book is still out on lind and gadjovich. Also our top pick this year probably will have a good chance to make the team in 2022-2023 season.
Who will our 3C be? Who will our 2RW be? Who will be our 1RD be? What about our 2LD? Our D is swiss cheese, we don't have enough firepower upfront pretty much our biggest strength lies in net with Demko and Holtby and Dipietro waiting in the wings. If we had gotten some draft picks for Hamhuis, Vrbata, Edler, Tanev and Markstrom we'd be a lot better today than we are now. Time for a new GM.
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28 minutes ago, R3aL said:
I’m not convinced with my internet knowledge and gut feeling on them.
if they the bpa when we pick and we take em awesome!
Craig has them very high in his list and Power seems to be as close to a consensus first as there is.
From what I’ve seen / read and gut feel I think Clarke is the best dman in the draft and I would take Hughes over edvinsson or power just because We basically know what Luke Hughes is going to be in 2/3 years.
I’m very convinced Luke Hughes is going to be a very good nhl dman and the idea of always having 1 of:
Q hughesL hughes
rathbone
sounds great to me.
Luke Hughes doesn't have a strong enough defensive game like Edvinsson. Edvinsson would jive well with our other young swedes like Pettersson and Hoglander. Next year, we get a center or a winger high up in the draft. We get Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle, Virtanen and Luongo all off the books. Our only bad contracts left are Ferland and Myers. Part of drafting is planning where the player fits in long-term. We need to pick a defender and there's only one righty in the top 10. Chances are, we'll be getting a lefty and I'll pray that it isn't Lambos because he'll take years to develop like Juolevi did.
My D ranking is:
Power
Edvinsson
L. Hughes
Clarke
Lambos
We can't pick Luke just because he's Quinn's bro. Furthermore, New Jersey isn't going to trade one of their best players just because two of his brothers are on our team (I saw someone suggest this earlier. Not directing this at the quoted post.)
Did New York trade Marc Staal to Carolina for Jordan and Eric? Did NYI trade R. Strome to Arizona for Dylan? Did Buffalo trade Marcus Foligno to Columbus? Did the Blues trade Jordan Schmaltz to Chicago to play with brother Nick? Did the Sabres trade Alex Nylander to Toronto to play with William? Need I go on?
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On 5/13/2021 at 6:27 PM, RUPERTKBD said:
Probably this...
I don't remember what the number was, but there were reports of Brind'amour signing for a very team friendly number in Raleigh....that has tp throw a monkey wrench into the plans of every other coach looking for a new deal.
Carolina is an exception to a lot of rules with that owner, they did the same thing with Waddell before the pandemic even began. Our coach should be making at least $2 Million USD per year in a market like this. FFS, Babcock was making $5 Million in Toronto after he left Detroit. Sure, our market isn't as big as Toronto's but our coach shouldn't be making 1/5 what Toronto's makes. Just my $0.02
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2 hours ago, wildcam said:
Would never make that trade?
1st rounder 2022 so between 17 -22 ? And Hoglander 20, future is bright pace for 20 goals this year..
Never make that trade...
Terrible trade. Our 1st this year would be so important, especially if we can land another Scandinavian player like Edvinsson
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39 minutes ago, R3aL said:
I saw breakout footage too where he evaded and broke away from forecheckers clean like Quinn Hughes almost.
as a kid against pro men it was impressive to me to see.
love the numbers you just shared.
i don’t wanna get too pumped on him cause I think he’s going to go high and after beating Edmonton today we probably will be going into the lottery at 9. Can’t imagine us not winning a game in last three vs Calgary.
i don’t see Clarke slipping to 9.
my internet research / gut feeling ranking on these kids:
1. Clarke
2. Hughes
3. Eklund
4. Power
5. Benier
6. McTavish
7. Guenther
8. Edvinsson
9. L’Heureux
10. Johnson
but I know nothing!
really only want Clarke or Hughes but whoever we get hope they end up being the best player available or wait I’ll be greedy.. hope they the best of class!
We NEED Edvinsson or Power
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If we're really looking for a great 3C, I think Nick Bjugstad would be a really strong pickup with the age of our team. But honestly, I think that's just putting a band-aid on the problem. We're not deep enough on RW, RD or even at C. It's time to get some more assets so we can draft some pieces that can arrive in 2-3 years. We'll bring in some cheap free agents to fill the roster spots in the meantime. Sure, we've got some solid pieces but just not enough to go deep in the playoffs. I don't think fans realize how much we benefited from Toffoli's performance in the playoffs last year. If not for him, who knows if we even get past Minnesota.
Be realistic. Look at what we have. If we want to win, we need more.
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12 hours ago, UKNuck96 said:
Seriously your reading comprehension is poor - I gave two potential options and neither was a rebuild with Schmitt and Miller
Buffalo doesn't want either player. That's all I'm saying lol
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2 hours ago, Provost said:
Looking at Buffalo bloggers and fans thinking up trade ideas is amusing.
Since Reinhardt wants to be closer to home they theorize:
Reinhart to Calgary for Matthew Tkachuk straight up.
Reinhart to Vancouver for Hoglander and our 1st rounder next year.... plus they will take Pearson from us as a “cap dump” to make the money work.
I counter with Myers, Virtanen, and Roussel for Reinhart and Ristolainen!
All those trades suck.
Reinhart isn't a fit here. We don't have enough to get Ristolainen. Calgary would be dumb to trade Tkachuk. The only way I see a trade between Calgary and Buffalo working out is if it were something around Monahan + for Eichel. That's the only way.
Buffalo doesn't want to take on more sh!tty contracts, all of which Myers, Virtanen and Roussel have.
Hoglander is a potential star, I say we hold onto him and to look for players in the next two drafts that'll bring us back to contention. However, if we're going to do that, we'll need a new GM. Benning did great with what he had but it's time to bring in someone with a fresh perspective to build on what he's accomplished. His trades(Gudbranson + 2nd + 4th for McCann. Terrible trade. Forsling for Clendening? 2nd rounder for Vey?) and free agent signings (Ferland, Roussel, Beagle, Myers, Eriksson, Baertschi, Nilsson, etc.) have just been too bad to ignore any further. Then there are the moves he didn't make like the OEL trade and the Toffoli flop.
This team looks like swiss cheese and we're all capped out. Reinhart isn't an option. Bottom line.
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10 hours ago, UKNuck96 said:
Erm where did I say I was trading everyone because I felt like it.
I was responding to your post that to get Reinhart we HAVE to trade Podz, I was stating that we don’t have to there are other options and players we could trade. It depends on what buffalo want to do, blow it up and restart in which case it’s picks and prospects, or trade one of the three and tool up to placate the other two, in which case players like Schmitt and Miller are likely to be pieces they would want - established good players
They're not going to take a 29-year old in Schmidt and a 28-year old in JT Miler if they're rebuilding. That makes no sense man. Just saying.
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2 hours ago, DeltaSwede said:
If we are picking top 5, I can't see us going wrong with any of the picks.
For reference here are my rankings:
1. Owen Power
2. Brandt Clarke
3. Matty Beniers
4. William Eklund
5. Luke Hughes
6. Jesper Wallstedt
7. Dylan Guenther
8. Kent Johnson
9. Chaz Lucius
10. Fabian Lysell
A little gut-feeling/mock:
Detroit picks Wallstedt wherever they are picking (if available). Stevie Y again looks like a genius in the future.
New Jersey should have high interest in Eklund with last years pick Holtz and him having incredible chemistry. Ignore their need for defensive depth.
Seattle pick a center not named Eklund. Kent Johnson is my prediction if Beniers is gone by the time they pick.
Columbus pick a forward.
Anaheim also pick a forward
Ottawa pick a defensemen
Owen Power will not be the first overall selection
Kinda silly doing this not knowing the draft order.
What about Edvinsson?
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2 hours ago, UKNuck96 said:
Miller can be used a trade bait for a few reasons (don’t get me wrong I would prefer him here but if trading him makes the team better then we do it)
1- his value is higher than when we got him from Tampa which would net us a good return
2- he is slightly older than our core and it’s likely that he will phase out just before the new core takes over - so if we can use him to bring in players of a younger age that improve the team it’s worth considering
3 - his salary is cost controlled which is value to us but also makes him an attractive trade piece.
4- for buffalo they have problems with 3 players that want out. They are in a situation where they basically jettison them all and start again, or trade one of them for a good haul. This haul cannot be just picks and prospects and unproven players as they need to satisfy the two they keep that a team if being built around them that is competitive, that’s why Miller is an option here even if his age doesn’t fit. For Buff it’s either blow it up and start again or start tooling up and showing commitment to their potential starsAlso read my post I’m not saying Schmitt for Reinhardt 1-1 you are just getting hyperbolic, he is a good player and your basing his value of a third on last years situation rather than the value he has to other teams.
as for prising players out of tampa yes cap here is tight but we are not in such a crunch that we are stuck.
You can't just trade everybody because you feel like it
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1 minute ago, UKNuck96 said:
Yes I understand. I’m just saying unless buffalo has come out and said they want Podz then it’s not a have to but a dramatisation by you.
we could throw in players like Miller, Schmitt and picks etc and get a deal done, which depending on the sabres view may actually be more tempting. It shows rather then going back into rebuilt they are bringing in good players to play with Eichel et al.
However I think with the cap space and needs of other teams out there that we are not likely to be trading with the sabres this off season.
I see us looking for more at prising players out for cheap from Tampa and other cap teams like we did with Schmitt
Why trade Miller? He's easily a 2C in the NHL and has been one our top four forwards. Miller is also too old for a rebuilding team in the position that Buffalo is in. Can Reinhart play in as many situations as Miller? What about Schmidt, you really think they'll take a guy we got for a third round pick and give us a former #2 overall pick in exchange . Are you kidding me?
How are we going to poach any of Tampa's players BTW? We don't have any cap space thanks to good ol' JB
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13 minutes ago, UKNuck96 said:
We don’t have to. It’s likely to be one of pieces that would be requested, and there are other routes we could go to make a trade.
but I think unless we can fleece them the price will be to high for us
You realize how much better a package that the Sabres can get other than Juolevi, Lind and a 2nd from us.
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34 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
Clarke's a recently converted forward. Not comfortable with that issue personally.
Edvinsson or Power is the stronger choice but I don't know if we're going to pick high enough to get either. If we're around #6-#9, it'll come down to Hughes/Clarke/Lambos and I really think Clarke is the strongest choice. We have to give Rathbone/Juolevi a chance to perform and play a top four role before we go and get another LHD. However, if we can get Edvinsson or Power than we do it. So it really depends. This rebuild could've been over by now if we hadn't mortgaged the future so much for a few playoff runs.
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Bottom line: We HAVE to include Podkolzin IF we trade for Reinhart. That is a TERRIBLE idea. Pass, he can go to Calgary.
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48 minutes ago, Melbourne Canuck said:
Yes I agree. I think the personnel needs to change. That post you’ve quoted was in response to another who said this defence was better than past D groups we’ve had and looking at the names, it is, but I do think there’s something to be said of the poor system this team plays. How many breakaways did the goalies face this year? Even going back to the bubble, the puck lived in the VAN zone and Demko had to absorb so many shots. That’s not a system. Who’s responsible for setting that system? The head coach? One of the assistants? I think it’s probably a combination of personnel and coaching but either way leaning so heavily on Edler with no succession plan says to me that JB is making it up as he goes along too which is concerning.
Juolevi was supposed to replace Edler and so far hasn't been good enough to do that. Next year, he'll have to step-up as Edler becomes more of a depth guy
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Why couldn't we get this guy? We've got a ton of holes I don't see why bring in Barabanov to fill in for one of our injured guys why the heck not? I know JB couldn't predict Barabanov going on a tear like this but this is a talented player. Bad pro scouting by our team once again.
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2021 NHL Entry Draft
in Prospects / Farm Team
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If we pick around 7-12, I think Ceulemans could be a great off-the-board pick. I can't pinpoint a good comparable but the intangibles that Gudbranson was supposed to bring here are evident with this guy. He's better than Gudbranson offensively by a lot. He's not as big as Gudbranson but he skates better and he hits like a truck. He plays for the same program that Makar came up through. If we can get some better help upfront later in the draft, maybe bring in some more picks it might make sense to take Ceulemans with our 1st and look for a good forward in the second round. We could also pick a center like Johnson in round 1 and nap an RD like Logan Mailloux (6'3 216lbs) or Scott Morrow (6'2 190lbs) or another LD in Svozil or Hreschuk in round 2. Nothing but options for management with this draft.