Aquiace Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I still don't think you had anything to apologise about. He clearly misunderstood Sarcastic's post. Anyways, get some rest, seriously....you're turning into a mushy apologiser on me......and don't you dare apologise for it either! lol, you already know me. I don't think I can sleep though. I have a makeshift bed on the floor here beside my computer in my office and I just lay and watch them but I can't close my eyes. It's comforting to see them. As I wrote this, there have been 2 more aftershocks of 2 and 3, but it appears nothing huge. They don't seem to be worried at all about the state of the reactor. They'll notify me as soon as there is more news about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquiace Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I can't help but laughing seeing you pop up in here! Yes, go to Saskatchewan!! Quickly, the radiation is coming! Leave everything behind, and don't look back...you'll be much safer and better off in Saskatchewan. Good thinking. They still have internet there though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 No, it's just the shock wave from the explosion. You see it with all big blasts, regardless of the source. Shockwave is probably right.....and the fact that it was in a round shape may just be because of the cylindrical shape of the core or structure housing the core. Another example of a shockwave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 They still have internet there though. Aw crap, I didn't think it through.....got so excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Danger zone is now 20 km around the reactor.....up from 10 km. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Good night all, must rest now in order to once again spread more cheer and sunshine on you all tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquiace Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Good night all, must rest now in order to once again spread more cheer and sunshine on you all tomorrow! Good night and thanks for bringing your great spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieksa(not really) Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I am making a run for Tokyo to stay with friends. My friend has reassured me that even in the worst case, the radiation will not be harmful outside of that area. I hope all the people around there got out and are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquiace Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 1052: Neil McKeown in Nakameguro, Tokyo writes: "The evacuation zone has been extended to 20km by the government. However TepCo [the Tokyo Electric Power Company] appeared in a news conference and promised to release new radioactivity readings after 6pm. It is now 7.30pm and they have not done so. People are getting extremely frustrated at the lack of news coming from TepCo and the government - they have yet to confirm if the building that suffered an explosion housed a reactor, and we have no indication how much radiation has been released or in what direction winds are blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Some local history. Wikipedia on the Alaska earthquake - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Alaska_earthquake The 1964 Alaska earthquake, also known as the Great Alaskan Earthquake, the Portage Earthquake and the Good Friday Earthquake, was a megathrust earthquake that began at 5:36 P.M. AST on Good Friday, March 27, 1964.... Lasting nearly four minutes, it was the most powerful recorded earthquake in U.S. and North American history, and the second most powerful ever measured by seismograph. It had a magnitude of 9.2, at the time making it the second largest earthquake in the recorded history of the world... Over 10,000 aftershocks were recorded following the main shock. In the first day alone, eleven major aftershocks were recorded with a magnitude greater than 6.0. Nine more occurred over the next three weeks. It was not until more than a year later that the aftershocks were no longer noticed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Alaska_earthquake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquiace Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I am making a run for Tokyo to stay with friends. My friend has reassured me that even in the worst case, the radiation will not be harmful outside of that area. I hope all the people around there got out and are safe. It appears most of the people have been evacuated. It appears that there are many mixed reports coming out and they are doing more psychological damage control than physical. But this is the Japanese government, so what else is new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 As long as they can keep power flowing to those cooling systems there wont be a meltdown. I've seen some of the Tsunami pictures you think they would have built break walls for this Inevitability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=fukushima&hl=en&ned=ca&tab=nl pretty god info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Canucks_Supporter Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 German television has confirmed a meltdown. tagesschau.de I'll try a translation... Explosion and meltdown in atomic power plant In the damaged nuclear power plant in Fukushima, a meltdown has been reported. This has been confirmed by the National Agency for Nuclear Safety, as reported by ARD-correspondent Robert Hetkämpfer in Tokyo. Before that, the Nuclear Energy Agency has stated that there might have been a meltdown in one of the reactors of Fukushima I. Federal agencies are currently investigating the situation. But even if there has been a meltdown, there is no danger for persons outside a radius of 10 kilometres. Most of the 51,000 inhabitants have been evacuated accordingly. Later on, the radius of the evacuations has been doubled to 20 kilometres. Again, this is the major German TV network, and I think it is somewhat credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DING Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Wikipedia article on Chernobyl: The nearby city of Pripyat was not immediately evacuated after the incident, but after radiation levels set off alarms at the Forsmark Nuclear Power Plant in Sweden,[35] over one thousand miles from the Chernobyl Plant, did the Soviet Union admit that an accident had occurred. Nevertheless, authorities attempted to conceal the scale of the disaster. For example, while evacuating the city of Pripyat, the following warning message was read on local radio: "An accident has occurred at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. One of the atomic reactors has been damaged. Aid will be given to those affected and a committee of government inquiry has been set up." This message gave the false impression that any damage or radiation was localized. I sure as hell hope that this isn't the case here with PM Kan. We all know how prideful the Japanese are and how it can get in the way of doing the right thing sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Wikipedia article on Chernobyl: I sure as hell hope that this isn't the case here with PM Kan. We all know how prideful the Japanese are and how it can get in the way of doing the right thing sometimes. . the Japanese have a well recorded history of silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bob Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 CNN reporting that the evacuation zone from the plant is 20 KMS, but nothing else really. They don't seem too concerned, but maybe the authorities are telling us everything to eliminate mass panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219 That's why CNN sucks. 12 March 2011 Last updated at 10:46 ET Huge blast at Japan nuclear power plant A huge explosion has rocked a Japanese nuclear power plant damaged by Friday's devastating earthquake. A pall of smoke was seen coming from the plant at Fukushima. Four workers were injured. Japanese officials say the container housing the reactor was not damaged and that radiation levels have now fallen. A huge relief operation is under way after the 8.9-magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami, which are thought to have killed at least 1,000 people. The offshore earthquake triggered a tsunami which wreaked havoc on Japan's north-east coast, sweeping far inland and devastating a number of towns and villages. Continue reading the main story Analysis The term "meltdown" raises associations with two nuclear accidents in living memory: Three Mile Island in the US in 1979, and Chernobyl in Ukraine in 1986. In both, excess heat in the reactor caused fuel to melt - and in the first, wider melting of the core. The question is whether the same thing has happened in Fukushima. It appears that the reactor was shut down well before any melting occurred, which should reduce considerably the risk of radioactive materials entering the environment. However, the detection of caesium isotopes outside the power station buildings could imply that the core has been exposed to the air. Although Japan has a long and largely successful nuclear power programme, officials have been less than honest about some incidents in the past, meaning that official reassurances are unlikely to convince everyone this time round. * Japan's nuclear picture unclear Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan has declared a state of emergency at the Fukushima number 1 and 2 power plants as engineers try to confirm whether a reactor at one of the stations has gone into meltdown. Tests showed at least three patients evacuated from a hospital near the plant had been exposed to radiation, public broadcaster NHK quotes local government officials as saying. The patients had reportedly been waiting outside the hospital for rescue helicopters when the explosion hit the plant. Evacuation zone expanded Television pictures showed a massive blast at one of the buildings of the Fukushima-Daiichi plant, about 250km (160 miles) north-east of Tokyo. A huge cloud of smoke billowed out and large bits of debris were flung far from the building. The Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco), the plant's operator, said four workers had been injured. The Japanese government's chief spokesman, Yukio Edano, said the concrete building housing the plant's number one reactor had collapsed but the metal reactor container inside was not damaged. He said radiation levels around the plant had fallen after the explosion. Officials ordered the evacuation zone around the plant expanded from a 10km radius to 20km (12 miles). The BBC's Nick Ravenscroft said police stopped him 60km from the Fukushima-Daiichi plant. Plans are being made to distribute iodine, which can be used to combat radiation sickness, to residents of the evacuation zone. Before and after images of Fukushima 1 power plant showing damaged building on lower left - 12 March 2011 Before and after images of Fukushima 1 power plant Japan's nuclear agency said earlier on Saturday that radioactive caesium and iodine had been detected near the number one reactor of the power station. The agency said this could indicate that containers of uranium fuel inside the reactor may have begun melting. Air and steam, with some level of radioactivity, was earlier released from several of the reactors at both plants in an effort to relieve the huge amount of pressure building up inside. Mr Kan said the amount of radiation released was "tiny". Cooling system failure Nuclear reactors at four power plants in the earthquake-struck zone automatically shut down on Friday. In several of the reactors at the two Fukushima plants the cooling systems, which should keep operating on emergency power supplies, failed. Without cooling, the temperature in the reactor core rises, with the risk that it could melt through its container into the building housing the system. Pressure also builds in the containers housing the reactor. Tepco said it was pumping water into the Fukushima-Daiichi's number one reactor in a bid to cool it down. The reactors the plant are Boiling Water Reactors (BWR), one of the most commonly used designs, and widely used throughout Japan's array of nuclear power stations. Analysts say a meltdown would not necessarily lead to a major disaster because light-water reactors would not explode even if they overheated. But Walt Patterson, of the London research institute Chatham House, said "this is starting to look a lot like Chernobyl". He said it was too early to tell if the explosion's aftermath would result in the same extreme level of radioactive contamination that occurred at Chernobyl. The explosion is likely to have been caused by melting fuel coming into contact with water, he told the BBC. The 8.9-magnitude tremor struck on Friday afternoon off the coast of Honshu island. It was nearly 8,000 times stronger than last month's quake in New Zealand that devastated the city of Christchurch, scientists said. Some of the same search and rescue teams from around the world that helped in that disaster are now on their way to Japan. As relief workers begin to reach the earthquake zone, the scale of the damage is being revealed. One of the worst-hit areas was the port city of Sendai, in Miyagi prefecture, where police said between 200 and 300 bodies were found in one ward alone. The town of Rikuzentakada, in Iwate prefecture, was reported as largely destroyed and almost completely submerged. NHK reported that soldiers had found 300-400 bodies there. Chief government spokesman Yukio Edano said it was believed that more than 1,000 people had died. NHK reports that in the port of Minamisanriku in Miyagi prefecture, the authorities say that about 7,500 people were evacuated to 25 shelters after Friday's quake but they have been unable to contact the town's other 10,000 inhabitants. A local official in the town of Futaba, in Fukushima prefecture, said more than 90% of the houses in three coastal communities had been washed away by the tsunami. "Looking from the fourth floor of the town hall, I see no houses standing,'' Kyodo news agency quoted him as saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieksa(not really) Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 <br />It appears most of the people have been evacuated. It appears that there are many mixed reports coming out and they are doing more psychological damage control than physical. But this is the Japanese government, so what else is new?<br /><br /><br /><br /> I know exactly what you are talking about-after the way they handled the last one... I felt more secure knowing the Americans were involved this time. Thankfully, the disaster was averted, and I am happy i took your advice! I feel much better being on high ground than on reclaimed land! Also, It seems that your family are safe in Gumma! It has all been too much, but after some scary quakes around the north of Japan, it seems like it is finally calming down. What can I say about this disaster-all of the lives that have been lost, and the survivors left with nothing! Towns have been wiped out! we have all felt like throwing up for the last 2 days- it feels like a week. I hope your family is safe-it seems like they are. I hope you get some sleep. Im going to try now. Thanks to everyone for their care for Japan! Good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquiace Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> I know exactly what you are talking about-after the way they handled the last one... I felt more secure knowing the Americans were involved this time. Thankfully, the disaster was averted, and I am happy i took your advice! I feel much better being on high ground than on reclaimed land! Also, It seems that your family are safe in Gumma! It has all been too much, but after some scary quakes around the north of Japan, it seems like it is finally calming down. What can I say about this disaster-all of the lives that have been lost, and the survivors left with nothing! Towns have been wiped out! we have all felt like throwing up for the last 2 days- it feels like a week. I hope your family is safe-it seems like they are. I hope you get some sleep. Im going to try now. Thanks to everyone for their care for Japan! Good night. Take your rest as much as you can. If there's one thing that the Japanese are good at it's getting back to normal. Those who have no home now will have a hard time. But it really is the key. I think we've had our moment of despair and now the best thing is to reclaim our lives. Yes, the wife and kids are safe and resting and it's hard for me to ask for more than that right now. I crashed last night around 4am and it appears when I woke up that nothing worse has really happened and it appears some good news out of Fukushima. They're able to cool the core with sea water while they try to repair the cooling system. It'll be tentative for a few days while it happens, but looks like it may not be as bad as we feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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