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[canuck73_3]

It was trending when it happened but all people care about is the Champs I suppose. I mean I DO LIKE IT THAT WAY.

I don't really follow twitter trends.

[The Magician]

I don't really follow twitter trends.

Twitter, facebook, it was all over social media all people care about now though is the champz.

Pimp Life right there. Guess you can arrive in style when you cheat like he did....

Or when you make 6 Superbowls and win 4 of them

Edited May 8, 2015 by The Magician

[canuck73_3]

Twitter, facebook, it was all over social media all people care about now though is the champz.

Most of my friends don't follow the NFL and none follow Atlanta. Cheating is cheating both the Pats and Falcons cheated and got caught doing so.

Just because Atlanta got caught it doesn't exempt New England of any wrong doing.

And obviously the Super Bowl champs cheating regardless of who it is will face more scrutiny... Derp.

[The Magician]

Most of my friends don't follow the NFL and none follow Atlanta. Cheating is cheating both the Pats and Falcons cheated and got caught doing so.

Just because Atlanta got caught it doesn't exempt New England of any wrong doing.

And obviously the Super Bowl champs cheating regardless of who it is will face more scrutiny... Derp.

More probable than not

[NucksPatsFan]

Pimp Life right there. Guess you can arrive in style when you cheat like he did....

Yeah man, that entire square inch of air was the difference between winning 45-7, or losing 7-0.

Surprised more Seahawks don't chopper in and out of events since cheating gets you the posh life.

Over the last few seasons the Seahawks have been the face for the abusers of the NFL’s PED policy. Since 2010 when Head Coach Pete Carroll took over there have been six Seahawks suspended for PED violations and three for substance abuse infractions. These violations have been a black eye for the franchise and most of the criticism they have received is deserved. The Seahawks earned nicknames such as the SeADDERALL Seahawks, PEDhawks, CHEAThawks and Pete Carroll has been referred to as Cheat Carroll.

Here comes the wrath. going to be disappointed if I come in here later tonight and am not being grilled. Don't let me down.

Edited May 8, 2015 by NucksPatsFan

[gmen81]

Yeah man, that entire square inch of air was the difference between winning 45-7, or losing 7-0.

Surprised more Seahawks don't chopper in and out of events since cheating gets you the posh life.

I'm a Titans fan in case you forgot.

[The Magician]

I'm a Titans fan in case you forgot.

Irrelevant

[TheRussianRocket.]

Sorry I missed out since the draft folks. Wanna especially say congrats to Gman and his Titans for an awesome draft. They hit the nail on it's head bang on. Was a great draft overall and as usual, I'm psyched for the Pats draft picks. Couldn't get enough players to replace Big Vince really

[TheRussianRocket.]

As for the report, I honestly have no idea how anyone can sincerely stand by it. It's completely full of crap. 2 months of investigation and no proof or evidence, they just come up with an opinionated conclusion. So much contradiction in the report even a blind person would be able to point it out.

@jeffphowe:

Is this an SNL skit? Seriously, read the whole paragraph. http://t.co/tcOovX7DN4

@jerrythornton1:

3 of the 4 Colts balls tested were under the league minimum. How many games will Andrew Luck get suspended?

@MarkDanielsPJ:

The inconsistencies between the two officials measurements of the game balls are pretty alarming/ http://t.co/Nk0XUPAGhx

@jeffphowe:

So far, the only "evidence" I've seen against Brady is hearsay based off assumption from a series of texts by two other people.

@footballfacts:

Proof of #patriots #TomBrady witch hunt found in fact that 3 of 4 #Colts ball under inflated, an NOBODY cares. http://t.co/Krttv6pgQV

@ProFootballTalk:

Remember the report that 10 of 12 balls were 2.0 PSI under the minimum? Yeah, that was bullcrap http://t.co/OyVmR0eQD7

@BillSimmons:

The Wells Report should have ended with a recap of Brady going 37 for 50 for 4 TDs with properly inflated balls in the Super Bowl.

@jeffphowe:

Analysis: Lots of holes in Wells report http://t.co/KRIJAxHcr6

@Pats12bill:

@PatriotsSB49 explain how 2 clowns can have such different figures #Inadmissibleevidence http://t.co/taKXtDyqPn

@PatriotsSB49:

Once 3 of first 4 Colts balls were shown to be under-inflated they didn't want to know what the remaining 8 revealed https://t.co/otlQgjJusT

@PatriotsSB49:

@BartHubbuch Hey Bart, good job, but 3/4 Colts balls were under-inflated, other 8 weren't tested because they were "running out of time."

@PatriotsSB49:

On the halftime measurements--> http://t.co/33vIiSiesq

@PP_Rich_Hill:

They only had to record four Colts footballs and they managed to mess one up. http://t.co/P4j3B2IDhU

@MarkDanielsPJ:

It's also crazy that the officials didn't have enough time to measure all of the Colts' game balls.

@davedonofrio:

Reaching a verdict based on the Wells report seems like letting the prosecution give its opening statement and ending the trial right there.

@chatham58:

Wells Report says the measurements were never written down or recorded. Entire thing is based on Walt Anderson's recollections. What a joke

@KevinRDuffy:

Problem is, only 4 of the Colts balls were tested and all of the Patriots balls were. Who knows the data on the other 8 Indy balls.

@KevinRDuffy:

One note, though: If we are to believe the Colts balls were ~13 PSI in the pregame, a few of them lost between 0.5 and 0.85 PSI by halftime.

@chatham58:

Blakeman & Prioleau re-measure balls @ 1/2. Both get v-diff readings. 3 IND balls under as well(Prioleau). Reliable? http://t.co/2lNhx89US7

@chatham58:

How does 1 official measure a ball & seconds later another does & they never get the same readings. This isn't "evidence." It's a joke

@MikeGarafolo:

Colts warn NFL about deflated balls. Walt Anderson reminded to follow procedure. Balls disappear. No one checks them until halftime? Shady.

@jeffphowe:

Patriots: Here is our explanation.

Wells: OK, I don't believe you. http://t.co/gEP7wsTksl

@jeffphowe:

Walt Anderson tested the balls before the game but didn't record the psi levels. Two alternate officials tested at halftime. Consistency?

@jeffphowe:

Halftime measurements: Notice the difference in each officials' gauge http://t.co/FXtBEiQuvH

..."more probable than not", what a load of crap

I mean there will always be Pats haters but if you're telling me you can read that spoiler, disagree with everything, and stand by Wells "investigative report", then I just can't take you seriously plain and simple. Likewise, Mak is a guy I have a ton of respect for but his oblivious hate towards the Pats and only looking at one side gives him close to zero credibility when it comes to Pats controversy in my eyes. Like it's pretty funny how blind people are just so they can hate while not being logical. If anyone wants to have a logical discussion, check out that spoiler. If not, so be it. It's just that majority of the NFL world is already laughing at this bs report which has no dirt on the Pats whatsoever.

Edited May 8, 2015 by TheRussianRocket™

[LaBamba]

I would agree that if this was the only time the Patriots were linked to any kind of cheating it would be a non issue.

But it's not and that pisses me off. Imagine what they don't get caught for.

It's like my browser history

[NucksPatsFan]

As for the report, I honestly have no idea how anyone can sincerely stand by it. It's completely full of crap. 2 months of investigation and no proof or evidence, they just come up with an opinionated conclusion. So much contradiction in the report even a blind person would be able to point it out.

@jeffphowe:

Is this an SNL skit? Seriously, read the whole paragraph. http://t.co/tcOovX7DN4

@jerrythornton1:

3 of the 4 Colts balls tested were under the league minimum. How many games will Andrew Luck get suspended?

@MarkDanielsPJ:

The inconsistencies between the two officials measurements of the game balls are pretty alarming/ http://t.co/Nk0XUPAGhx

@jeffphowe:

So far, the only "evidence" I've seen against Brady is hearsay based off assumption from a series of texts by two other people.

@footballfacts:

Proof of #patriots #TomBrady witch hunt found in fact that 3 of 4 #Colts ball under inflated, an NOBODY cares. http://t.co/Krttv6pgQV

@ProFootballTalk:

Remember the report that 10 of 12 balls were 2.0 PSI under the minimum? Yeah, that was bullcrap http://t.co/OyVmR0eQD7

@BillSimmons:

The Wells Report should have ended with a recap of Brady going 37 for 50 for 4 TDs with properly inflated balls in the Super Bowl.

@jeffphowe:

Analysis: Lots of holes in Wells report http://t.co/KRIJAxHcr6

@Pats12bill:

@PatriotsSB49 explain how 2 clowns can have such different figures #Inadmissibleevidence http://t.co/taKXtDyqPn

@PatriotsSB49:

Once 3 of first 4 Colts balls were shown to be under-inflated they didn't want to know what the remaining 8 revealed https://t.co/otlQgjJusT

@PatriotsSB49:

@BartHubbuch Hey Bart, good job, but 3/4 Colts balls were under-inflated, other 8 weren't tested because they were "running out of time."

@PatriotsSB49:

On the halftime measurements--> http://t.co/33vIiSiesq

@PP_Rich_Hill:

They only had to record four Colts footballs and they managed to mess one up. http://t.co/P4j3B2IDhU

@MarkDanielsPJ:

It's also crazy that the officials didn't have enough time to measure all of the Colts' game balls.

@davedonofrio:

Reaching a verdict based on the Wells report seems like letting the prosecution give its opening statement and ending the trial right there.

@chatham58:

Wells Report says the measurements were never written down or recorded. Entire thing is based on Walt Anderson's recollections. What a joke

@KevinRDuffy:

Problem is, only 4 of the Colts balls were tested and all of the Patriots balls were. Who knows the data on the other 8 Indy balls.

@KevinRDuffy:

One note, though: If we are to believe the Colts balls were ~13 PSI in the pregame, a few of them lost between 0.5 and 0.85 PSI by halftime.

@chatham58:

Blakeman & Prioleau re-measure balls @ 1/2. Both get v-diff readings. 3 IND balls under as well(Prioleau). Reliable? http://t.co/2lNhx89US7

@chatham58:

How does 1 official measure a ball & seconds later another does & they never get the same readings. This isn't "evidence." It's a joke

@MikeGarafolo:

Colts warn NFL about deflated balls. Walt Anderson reminded to follow procedure. Balls disappear. No one checks them until halftime? Shady.

@jeffphowe:

Patriots: Here is our explanation.

Wells: OK, I don't believe you. http://t.co/gEP7wsTksl

@jeffphowe:

Walt Anderson tested the balls before the game but didn't record the psi levels. Two alternate officials tested at halftime. Consistency?

@jeffphowe:

Halftime measurements: Notice the difference in each officials' gauge http://t.co/FXtBEiQuvH

..."more probable than not", what a load of crap

I mean there will always be Pats haters but if you're telling me you can read that spoiler, disagree with everything, and stand by Wells "investigative report", then I just can't take you seriously plain and simple. Likewise, Mak is a guy I have a ton of respect for but his oblivious hate towards the Pats and only looking at one side gives him close to zero credibility when it comes to Pats controversy in my eyes. Like it's pretty funny how blind people are just so they can hate while not being logical. If anyone wants to have a logical discussion, check out that spoiler. If not, so be it. It's just that majority of the NFL world is already laughing at this bs report which has no dirt on the Pats whatsoever.

Bro, no such thing as logic in here. This is what I've gathered so far:

• Colts would've beaten the Pats 7-0 had the balls had an extra square inch of air in them in the 1st half.

• Also, Brady's been deflating balls since 2001 in the Snow Bowl. Now, there's no evidence to support this, nor has he ever been accused of this up until an undrafted rookie running back made the Colts defense look like a high school team, but just take people's word for it.

Also, 3 of the 4 Colts balls were underinflated below the legal limits, and the refs were asked to stop checking their remaining 8 balls, but let's just ignore that, okay?

Makaveli posted that all GM's signed an affidavit admitting that their own team isn't cheating and that they don't know of any other team's cheating to protect the integrity of the game and ensure an equal playing field. Funny, because page 46 of the Wells report states the Colts sat on this suspicion for 2 months, and then brought it up the day before the playoff game to the league.

So much for reporting their suspicions to the league out of care for the integrity of the game. If you care about the integrity of the game, you don't keep your suspicions about a team cheating to yourself and allow that suspected team the potential to cheat against others. They reported it to gain an advantage for themselves because Luck's Colts haven't been able to hold Brady's jock.

Page 46 of the report explains that the Colts became suspicious as a result of two footballs intercepted by safety Mike Adams during the Week 11 game between the two teams. But the Colts said nothing to the league about the air pressure concerns in November.

If the goal was to ensure the integrity of the game, the Colts should have immediately alerted the NFL to the concern after the regular-season contest

“It would be great if someone would be able to check the air in the game balls as the game goes on so that they don‟t get an illegal advantage,” Colts equipment manager Sean Sullivan wrote in a message sent by G.M. Ryan Grigson to the league office on January 17.

It would have been even better if the Colts had informed the NFL about the situation immediately after the Week 11 game, which would have prevented the Patriots from getting an “unfair advantage” in any of their remaining regular-season games, or in the divisional-round game against the Ravens.

The entire thing is funny. Good to see the rest of the team and the QB brotherhood sticking up for him as well. Glad Wells gave the haters some low hanging fruit to cling to until the pre-season starts, it must be tiring to hate a winner.

[canuck73_3]

Bro, no such thing as logic in here. This is what I've gathered so far:

• Colts would've beaten the Pats 7-0 had the balls had an extra square inch of air in them in the 1st half.

• Also, Brady's been deflating balls since 2001 in the Snow Bowl. Now, there's no evidence to support this, nor has he ever been accused of this up until an undrafted rookie running back made the Colts defense look like a high school team, but just take people's word for it.

Also, 3 of the 4 Colts balls were underinflated below the legal limits, and the refs were asked to stop checking their remaining 8 balls, but let's just ignore that, okay?

Makaveli posted that all GM's signed an affidavit admitting that their own team isn't cheating and that they don't know of any other team's cheating to protect the integrity of the game and ensure an equal playing field. Funny, because page 46 of the Wells report states the Colts sat on this suspicion for 2 months, and then brought it up the day before the playoff game to the league.

So much for reporting their suspicions to the league out of care for the integrity of the game. If you care about the integrity of the game, you don't keep your suspicions about a team cheating to yourself and allow that suspected team the potential to cheat against others. They reported it to gain an advantage for themselves because Luck's Colts haven't been able to hold Brady's jock.

The entire thing is funny. Good to see the rest of the team and the QB brotherhood sticking up for him as well. Glad Wells gave the haters some low hanging fruit to cling to until the pre-season starts, it must be tiring to hate a winner.

I haven't seen 1 person say the Colts would have won.

I have seen yet another scandal involving the Pats.

But no people are haters and the Pats are angels right?

[The Magician]

But no people are haters and the Pats are angels right?

The difference is you plugs try to call out the Pats but don't say s*** when they had real evidence on the Falcons pumping noise the last 2 years. That's more of an advantage than this is. At least more probable than not.

It's ok though fam they hate us cuz they anus.

Edited May 8, 2015 by The Magician

[canuck73_3]

The difference is you plugs try to call out the Pats but don't say s*** when they had real evidence on the Falcons pumping noise the last 2 years. That's more of an advantage than this is. At least more probable than not.

It's ok though fam they hate us cuz the anus.

In this very thread I said they both cheated and should be punished accordingly.

But keep on with your crusade on the haters...

[NucksPatsFan]

As for the report, I honestly have no idea how anyone can sincerely stand by it. It's completely full of crap. 2 months of investigation and no proof or evidence, they just come up with an opinionated conclusion. So much contradiction in the report even a blind person would be able to point it out.

@jeffphowe:

Is this an SNL skit? Seriously, read the whole paragraph. http://t.co/tcOovX7DN4

@jerrythornton1:

3 of the 4 Colts balls tested were under the league minimum. How many games will Andrew Luck get suspended?

@MarkDanielsPJ:

The inconsistencies between the two officials measurements of the game balls are pretty alarming/ http://t.co/Nk0XUPAGhx

@jeffphowe:

So far, the only "evidence" I've seen against Brady is hearsay based off assumption from a series of texts by two other people.

@footballfacts:

Proof of #patriots #TomBrady witch hunt found in fact that 3 of 4 #Colts ball under inflated, an NOBODY cares. http://t.co/Krttv6pgQV

@ProFootballTalk:

Remember the report that 10 of 12 balls were 2.0 PSI under the minimum? Yeah, that was bullcrap http://t.co/OyVmR0eQD7

@BillSimmons:

The Wells Report should have ended with a recap of Brady going 37 for 50 for 4 TDs with properly inflated balls in the Super Bowl.

@jeffphowe:

Analysis: Lots of holes in Wells report http://t.co/KRIJAxHcr6

@Pats12bill:

@PatriotsSB49 explain how 2 clowns can have such different figures #Inadmissibleevidence http://t.co/taKXtDyqPn

@PatriotsSB49:

Once 3 of first 4 Colts balls were shown to be under-inflated they didn't want to know what the remaining 8 revealed https://t.co/otlQgjJusT

@PatriotsSB49:

@BartHubbuch Hey Bart, good job, but 3/4 Colts balls were under-inflated, other 8 weren't tested because they were "running out of time."

@PatriotsSB49:

On the halftime measurements--> http://t.co/33vIiSiesq

@PP_Rich_Hill:

They only had to record four Colts footballs and they managed to mess one up. http://t.co/P4j3B2IDhU

@MarkDanielsPJ:

It's also crazy that the officials didn't have enough time to measure all of the Colts' game balls.

@davedonofrio:

Reaching a verdict based on the Wells report seems like letting the prosecution give its opening statement and ending the trial right there.

@chatham58:

Wells Report says the measurements were never written down or recorded. Entire thing is based on Walt Anderson's recollections. What a joke

@KevinRDuffy:

Problem is, only 4 of the Colts balls were tested and all of the Patriots balls were. Who knows the data on the other 8 Indy balls.

@KevinRDuffy:

One note, though: If we are to believe the Colts balls were ~13 PSI in the pregame, a few of them lost between 0.5 and 0.85 PSI by halftime.

@chatham58:

Blakeman & Prioleau re-measure balls @ 1/2. Both get v-diff readings. 3 IND balls under as well(Prioleau). Reliable? http://t.co/2lNhx89US7

@chatham58:

How does 1 official measure a ball & seconds later another does & they never get the same readings. This isn't "evidence." It's a joke

@MikeGarafolo:

Colts warn NFL about deflated balls. Walt Anderson reminded to follow procedure. Balls disappear. No one checks them until halftime? Shady.

@jeffphowe:

Patriots: Here is our explanation.

Wells: OK, I don't believe you. http://t.co/gEP7wsTksl

@jeffphowe:

Walt Anderson tested the balls before the game but didn't record the psi levels. Two alternate officials tested at halftime. Consistency?

@jeffphowe:

Halftime measurements: Notice the difference in each officials' gauge http://t.co/FXtBEiQuvH

"The evidence does not allow us to reach conclusions as to when McNally and Jastremski began their efforts to release air from Patriots game balls on game day"

So, there's no evidence that air was released after the official inspected the ball? The same official who didn't even write down the PSI of the ball at the time of the inspection?

"Discussing Brady's unhappiness with the inflation level of Patriots game balls, Jastremski told McNally that "he actually brought you up" and "said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done."

Is Brady unhappy with them the morning of the game? Is he unhappy with them after Walt Anderson checked them? Is he unhappy after they were adjusted by McNally?

This guy had 3 months to find answers and instead it's assumption after assumption.

[The Magician]

In this very thread I said they both cheated and should be punished accordingly.

But keep on with your crusade on the haters...

No one said the Pats are angels. It's okay there's always next year. Unfortunately for you all it's our year as champs. I can smell the salty tears from here.

[canuck73_3]

The Pats cheated, the Falcons cheated. Both in the wrong both at fault.

The Pats are hated cause they're cheating assholes.

Even as a Browns fan I have a ton of respect for the Steelers minus Big Ben and his questionable character.

The Pats I don't respect as much because they act as if they can't be punished. And it starts with Mr. Kraft and trickles down the organization.

So the Pats have eaened their reputation and it has NOTHING to do with winning.

Edited May 8, 2015 by canuck73_3

[NucksPatsFan]

I haven't seen 1 person say the Colts would have won.

I have seen yet another scandal involving the Pats.

But no people are haters and the Pats are angels right?

It was a few pages back someone suggested the Patriots ran so heavily against the Colts in the 1st half because the balls were deflated, or I'm mistaken and confusing it with hearing it online.

You don't need to look hard to find blind haters. I wasn't being specific to you or this thread. On 1040 last night Scott Rintoul fielded some ridiculous phone calls including one from that imbecile Mike in Langley who suggested Brady be banned from the league Others responded with Brady shouldn't get his 4th ring, etc, etc. New York media and Miami media once again resorted to some lame cartoon mocking Brady on the front pages of their newspapers this morning. That's the clear cut sign of a hater, when you hate someone who wins a lot so you go all out the few opportunities you get.

[canuck73_3]

It was a few pages back someone suggested the Patriots ran so heavily against the Colts in the 1st half because the balls were deflated, or I'm mistaken and confusing it with hearing it online.

You don't need to look hard to find blind haters. I wasn't being specific to you or this thread. On 1040 last night Scott Rintoul fielded some ridiculous phone calls including one from that imbecile Mike in Langley who suggested Brady be banned from the league Others responded with Brady shouldn't get his 4th ring, etc, etc. New York media and Miami media once again resorted to some lame cartoon mocking Brady on the front pages of their newspapers this morning. That's the clear cut sign of a hater, when you hate someone who wins a lot so you go all out the few opportunities you get.

The Pats had the game with the Colts even if they played the game with friggen nerf balls for all I care .

Just wish the Pats would say hey, we f'd up let's move on...

Edited May 8, 2015 by canuck73_3

[NucksPatsFan]

The Pats cheated, the Falcons cheated. Both in the wrong both at fault.

The Pats are hated cause they're cheating assholes.

Even as a Browns fan I have a ton of respect for the Steelers minus Big Ben and his questionable character.

The Pats I don't respect as much because they act as if they can't be punished. And it starts with Mr. Kraft and trickles down the organization.

So the Pats have eaened their reputation and it has NOTHING to do with winning.

Now you're just generalizing. Brady wanted his balls underinflated, had nothing to do with the other 52 guys on the roster, or the majority, if not all of the staff and doesn't reflect those not involved.

Assistant coach taping signals vs the Jets had nothing to do with the 53 guys on the field nor did it reflect their character or attitude.

It's like Canucks fans hating the Blackhawks because of Duncan Keith's hit.

The Pats had the game with the Colts even if the played the game with friggen nerf balls for all I care .

Just wish the Pats would say hey, we f'd up let's move on...

I expect Brady will. He'll apologize, say his part, and say that he'll accept any punishment the league feels is fair and move on to be better than he has been. I said earlier that it made sense (to me anyways) to not admit to F'ing up right before the Super Bowl and upsetting the mood and motivation of his locker room. Wouldn't of been fair to his teammates or coaches to put this whole other obstacle in their way right before the Super Bowl.