Raymond Ballard and a 1st Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Well if anything, now was the best time to fire AV, seeing as there are many options on the market right now, In my opinion I hope Dave Tippet leaves the Coyotes and join us, but Guy Boucher would be awesome too (That scar alone would terrify teams). With that all being said, AV was a great coach for this team and it was just time for him to move on. He is a great coach and whichever team gets him is very lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocnhockey Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Sorry to see you go AV, you were and are a classy guy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 uhh, just because he's a good coach doesn't mean he's the best coach for the canucks He was the best coach for the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I don't know any team in the league that spends to the cap that wouldn't fire their coach after two first round exits. This should not come as a shock to anyone. The only option the team had was to either blow up the core or fire the coach. Thinking that firing the GM and keeping the same coach and core would produce better results is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Hmmm, I guess all those that have been ragging on this guy for months look a lot less stupid now. Happy day, happy day. Nah some of you still look pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I don't know any team in the league that spends to the cap that wouldn't fire their coach after two first round exits. This should not come as a shock to anyone. The only option the team had was to either blow up the core or fire the coach. Thinking that firing the GM and keeping the same coach and core would produce better results is silly. It's almost like they tried that already once. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 He was the best coach for the Canucks. Key word is was. The last 3 years have also been the best roster that the team has ever assembled. So if you wanna give credit to the coach or the players, it doesn't really matter. The bottom line is, both failed to produce results. And the coach is the easiest thing to change at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Will be interesting to see if MG goes old school vet or off the board with AHL coach with no NHL coaching experience. Larry Robinson would be fantastic for this team, but other than him I'd prefer not going the retread route. The thought of going with a younger coach such as Eakins or Desjardins kind of appeals to me though. Free Agents Guy Boucher: After tremendous success in Major Junior and the AHL, Boucher was hired by the Tampa Bay Lightning in 2010 and led the team to a 46-25-11 record and the Eastern Conference Finals. He was praised for his tactical acumen and had many surprised that he didn’t receive more votes for the Jack Adams award. Then the Lightning failed to make the playoffs and got off to a poor start this season and he was fired. I, for one, would like to see how he would do coaching a team with decent goaltending. Lindy Ruff: Ruff was the head coach in Buffalo for a whopping 14 seasons, but was fired in his 15th after a 6-10-1 start. He coached the Sabres to the Stanley Cup Finals back in 1999 and to the Conference Finals three other times. In his last five seasons, however, the Sabres failed to make the playoffs in three of them and lost in the first round in the other two. He has never coached a team that spends to the salary cap, however, and has a sterling reputation. Guy Carbonneau: In his first season as head coach of the Canadiens in 2006-07, they missed the playoffs. The next season, Carbonneau coached them to a division title, then lost in the second round of the playoffs. Carbonneau was the runner-up for the Jack Adams award to Bruce Boudreau. The next season, he was fired, even as the Canadiens eventually made the playoffs. Andy Murray: Currently coaching college hockey at Western Michigan, Murray previously coached the Kings and the Blues. He was a runner-up for the Jack Adams award in 2009 after guiding the Blues from 15th in the conference at the All-Star break to the playoffs, where they promptly got swept by the Canucks. Ron Wilson: Wilson is a hard coach to judge. He coached the 1997-98 Capitals to the Cup Finals and was behind the bench for some of the Sharks’ best regular seasons, even as they never made it to the Finals. Then he got hired in Toronto to coach the Maple Leafs and got fired partway through a fourth straight unsuccessful season. Do you judge him for his failure in Toronto where he had very little to work with? How much credit do you give him for USA’s silver medal in the 2010 Olympics? Jacques Martin: Martin is one of the most experienced coaches available, but he’s faced criticism that he hasn’t been able to adapt to the realities of the post-lockout NHL. Still, the Ottawa Senators never missed the playoffs while he was behind the bench, leading them to four 100+ point seasons. He may be too defensively-oriented to fit with the Canucks, however. Brent Sutter: Sutter had some success coaching New Jersey, but flamed out in three seasons with Calgary. How much of that should be on him, however, rather than , no success in Calgary, but how much blame should he receive for that and how much should be on his brother, Darryl, the General Manager? By all accounts, Sutter is a fine coach and deserves another shot at an NHL head coaching job. Don Hay: The current coach of the Vancouver Giants had two brief stints as an NHL head coach, getting the Coyotes to the playoffs in 1997 and lasting 68 games with the Flames in 2000-01. Hay’s success in the WHL has been impressive, leading the Giants to a Memorial Cup in 2007 after winning it twice with the Kamloops Blazers. His name is frequently brought up for an NHL coaching job, but the question is how interested he is in returning to the NHL. Mike Keenan or Marc Crawford: Just kidding. Sort of. *** Assistants John Stevens: After a stint as the Philadelphia Flyers’ head coach, he was hired as an assistant with the Los Angeles Kings, focussing on defence and the penalty kill. The Kings have been among the league leaders in penalty kill percentage and goals against while he’s been behind the bench and he won the Stanley Cup with the Kings in 2012. Larry Robinson: Robinson was the head coach for the New Jersey Devils’ 2000 Stanley Cup and their 2001 loss in the Finals. Other than a previous stint as the Kings’ head coach, he’s mostly been an assistant, joining the San Jose Sharks this past season. He was credited with the Sharks’ improvement on the penalty kill as they went from 29th in the league in 2011-12 to 7th in 2012-13. John Anderson: Anderson was a very successful AHL coach with the Chicago Wolves, but his only shot at a head-coaching job in the NHL was with the sad-sack Atlanta Thrashers. He’s currently an assistant coach with the Phoenix Coyotes under Dave Tippett. Brad Shaw: Shaw’s only shot at being a head coach was as an interim coach for the New York Islanders. He’s been an assistant with the St. Louis Blues since 2006 and was voted as the assistant coach who most deserved to be a head coach in the 2011-12 NHLPA player’s poll. Scott Gordon: Gordon was given no chance to succeed in his first job as an NHL head coach, as he was hired by the brutally awful New York Islanders in 2008. He was previously the AHL coach of the year in 2008 and seems like a good candidate to make his way back into the ranks of NHL head coaches in short order. He’s currently an assistant coach with the Leafs. Tom Renney: Renney is an unlikely candidate, not because he’s a particularly bad coach, but because of the optics. Renney had some success coaching the New York Rangers, but most recently coached the Edmonton Oilers to last and second-last place finishes. He’s currently serving as an assistant with the Detroit Red Wings, however, which isn’t a bad place to be. AHL and Junior coaches Dallas Eakins: Eakins has been repeatedly rumoured for multiple NHL coaching jobs and they’ve picked up again recently. He has coached the Toronto Marlies for four seasons, losing in the Calder Cup Finals last year. Willie Desjardins: It may be his first year as a coach in the AHL, but it seems likely that Desjardins won’t be coaching in the AHL for very long, as he was just named the AHL coach of the year and will be a likely candidate for several NHL coaching jobs in the near future. Troy Ward: Ward has been a fantastic coach in Abbotsford and was rumoured for the Calgary job before the Flames hired Bob Hartley. Flames Nation went over the many reasons why should have gotten the job and most of them are good reasons for another NHL team, like the Canucks, to take a look at him. Mike Johnston: Johnston was an assistant coach with the Kings and Canucks and has now proven himself as a head coach with the Portland Winterhawks in the WHL, leading them to two Western Conference finals. He may not have any connection with Gillis, but he is familiar with the Canucks organization. http://vansunsportsb...ult-gets-fired/ None of the above coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 It's almost like they tried that already once. :D The team is in a much different position now than it was when Nonis was let go. If we're bringing in a new GM at this point it should be for a complete rebuild. Otherwise they might as well just let this core group run out it's course until that time. AV was new to the team back then and had the attention of the players. It was clear after the last couple of playoffs that just isn't the case anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendythirteenthrashers Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Lol at don cherry blaming the sedins for AV and the other two coaches undoing in vancouver.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Key word is was. The last 3 years have also been the best roster that the team has ever assembled. So if you wanna give credit to the coach or the players, it doesn't really matter. The bottom line is, both failed to produce results. And the coach is the easiest thing to change at this point. Indeed. Im not against the move at all. Had there been no lock out, and injuries..it may have been a different outcome for the Canucks and most NHL teams. Im cautiously excited. But will certainly not expect anything amazing to happen with a coaching change next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I don't know any team in the league that spends to the cap that wouldn't fire their coach after two first round exits. This should not come as a shock to anyone. The only option the team had was to either blow up the core or fire the coach. Thinking that firing the GM and keeping the same coach and core would produce better results is silly. Exactly. Not to mention AV should have been fired in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Indeed. Im not against the move at all. Had there been no lock out, and injuries..it may have been a different outcome for the Canucks and most NHL teams. Im cautiously excited. But will certainly not expect anything amazing to happen with a coaching change next season. People act like this is some great team and all we need is a coaching change to lead this group of elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukekim Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Anyone who can bring the stanley cup to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukekim Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Anyone who can bring the Stanley Cup to us !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 People act like this is some great team and all we need is a coaching change to lead this group of elites. I don't think anyone doesn't think we need some major upgrades on offense. That's pretty much the theme on here every day. But this teams core is still elite. Any person that thinks it isn't is just a pessimist. The Sedins showed at the World's that they can still outperform the top players in the league. The pieces are there, they just need a strong supporting cast. And a new coach with new ideas and enthusiasm could be just what these guys need to get motivated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolwut? Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 He was the best coach for the Canucks. Was. Was. It was time and they made the right move.. Especially getting rid of brown and bowness. And all you people slamming MG, what the hell do you expect the guy to do, run over to the free agent tree and pick whatever players you want? FFS some of you act like any GM can just go out and grab any player they want and give up nothing for them.. I'm so glad that our GM has more tact and patience than these CDC gms. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 If the Red Wings upset the Hawks I wonder about Quennville. I doubt he goes anywhere, but in a season with such high expectations, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 People act like this is some great team and all we need is a coaching change to lead this group of elites. DeNiro replied for me: I don't think anyone doesn't think we need some major upgrades on offense. That's pretty much the theme on here every day. But this teams core is still elite. Any person that thinks it isn't is just a pessimist. The Sedins showed at the World's that they can still outperform the top players in the league. The pieces are there, they just need a strong supporting cast. And a new coach with new ideas and enthusiasm could be just what these guys need to get motivated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Was. Was. It was time and they made the right move.. Especially getting rid of brown and bowness. I wrote "was" with due purpose. And would deserve flaming if i commented with "is". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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