Dion Phaneuf Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 IMO the penalty is justified. You were able to make a second deal with that pick... For example, I had an opportunity to trade Griffin Reinhart twice since he wasn't removed from my spreadsheet. Nearly everyone forgot that I had dealt him... Many GMs presented me with offers but I turned them down since I knew Reinhart was no longer property of the Anaheim Ducks. I would've been able to put together a package to bring in another big name player (Hossa, Keith, and anonymous) this past summer if the deal went undetected like your 2nd rounder. I'm more than certain that teams would've been choked that I got away with the deal. It's an honest mistake by you but you should be penalized and a 1st rounder pick is more than fair. I'm sure the league would have done the same with a marquee team. Just stay competitive and hope the pick isn't too high (like you've already vowed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 IMO the penalty is justified. You were able to make a second deal with that pick... For example, I had an opportunity to trade Griffin Reinhart twice since he wasn't removed from my spreadsheet. Nearly everyone forgot that I had dealt him... Many GMs presented me with offers but I turned them down since I knew Reinhart was no longer property of the Anaheim Ducks. I would've been able to put together a package to bring in another big name player (Hossa, Keith, and anonymous) this past summer if the deal went undetected like your 2nd rounder. I'm more than certain that teams would've been choked that I got away with the deal. It's an honest mistake by you but you should be penalized and a 1st rounder pick is more than fair. I'm sure the league would have done the same with a marquee team. Just stay competitive and hope the pick isn't too high (like you've already vowed). I feel like it would be pretty difficult to not notice two Griffin Reinhart trades lol. Draft picks kind of blend together and aren't very memorable, its a pretty easy mistake to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Spades Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 TRADE: The Columbus Blue Jackets have made a trade with the Los Angeles Kings. To CBJ: Patrick Wiercioch David Savard OTT 2014 1st Round Draft Selection LA 2015 2nd Round Draft Selection FLA 2015 2nd Round Draft Selection To LA: Jonathan Ericsson Dmitri Jaskin Dmitri Orlov Anders Lee FLA 2014 3rd Round Draft Selection TRADE: The Edmonton Oilers have made a trade with the Los Angeles Kings. To EDM: Matt D'Agostini To LA: EDM 2015 3rd Round Draft Selection TRADE: The Columbus Blue Jackets have made a trade with the Los Angeles Kings. To CBJ: Andrej Meszaros To LA: TB 2014 3rd Round Draft Selection The LA Kings are pleased to welcome several new faces to the organization and wish all the best to the departing players from these 3 deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Spades Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 ASSIGNMENT: The LA Kings would like to re-call D Sami Vatanen from Las Vegas. LA KINGS Martin St. Louis - Evgeni Malkin - David Perron Michael Grabner - David Krejci - Wayne Simmonds Vladimir Sobotka - Ryan Johansen - Justin Abdelkader Tom Sestito - Derek Grant - Chris Thorburn ? - ? - Ryan White Ryan Suter - Jack Johnson Jonathan Ericsson - Marco Scandella Alexei Emelin - Dmitry Orlov Nicklas Grossmann - Sami Vatanen Sergei Bobrovsky Alex Stalock LAS VEGAS ROYALS Dmitrij Jaskin - Anders Lee - Brett Connolly John Gaudreau - Brandon McMillan - Sven Andrighetto Michael Ferland - Tyler Graovac - Andre Petersson Jerry D'Amigo - Jay Beagle - Mitchell Callahan Simon Gagne - ? - Ryan Bourque Michal Jordan - Magnus Nygren Nicolas Deslauriers - Justin Holl William Wrenn Antti Raanta Tyler Bunz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I am positive it was a genuine mistake, one that I was inches from making myself once last year, but I am also sure the penalty would be the same regardless of the gm's involved or the standings of their respective teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 The decision would have been the same regardless of which team it had been that made the error or which team would have been the benefactor. Losing a 1st round pick for any team sucks but Columbus entered into the trade to acquire the 2nd round pick in good faith, as did the previous teams in each deal. The Blue Jackets deserved to be compensated in a fair manner, which is a pick of equal or greater value, in this case, the offending teams 1st round pick. It is definitely unfortunate and I'm sure an honest mistake by all involved, I don't believe anyone had any malicious intent in the situation. But the fact remains that teams have to be responsible for their roster and the moves they make, and this ruling both corrects the issue and sends that message. If my club had been the one to mix up and Boston was the club deserving compensation, my 1st round pick would be heading to the Bruins (it's not though, don't get excited greens ). Position in the standings or who runs the team do not come into play. The integrity of the league depends on keeping these things on even ground for every team that competes in our league. I appreciate the honesty in the question though, as always I'm open to questions, comments and constructive criticism. It's the best way to grow and evolve the game and make sure it's the best league it can possibly be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Enjoy the 2014 first round pick. I'm determined to make it as late as possible!! Here's a question. If I would have done those trades with better teams that are 1st and 2nd would the ruling still be me giving up my 1st round pick? Or is this an effort to turn Colombus around? I remember last year when I was last I received a lot of breaks from the league, like anybody that I wanted to sign I got haha. . So I don't mind doing it. I'd also like to note that 'being able to sign anybody you wanted' wasn't an effort to help your club turn things around. It was a by-product of your club having multiple holes in the roster. The players you offered for, some had multiple teams interested, but Carolina offered the best situation for those players in regards to holding places on the roster and getting ice time. It was an effort to accurately reflect a players desire to play and not be moved up and down between the big club and the minors. The one that might be questionable was Antoine Roussell, but after another team had agreed to a contract with Antoine, they graciously stepped aside to allow Carolina to sign him after miscommunication had one agent post a deal with the Canes before the other teams contract was posted. If that was an effort to help turn Carolina around, you'd have to ask that GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 St.Louis Blues Roster Moves Assignment : The Blues assign D Mark Borowiecki to the Greenville Road Warriors (no waivers) Recall: The Blues recall F Mike Hoffman from the Greenville Road Warriors We thank Mark for his efforts for now and we hope that he will be Back during the Season. He had a great November even most of his Points were Penalty Minutes. This is what we need in this League. Welcome to the NHL Mike Hoffman...Mike has 11 Goals and 26 Points in the AHL so far. We hope he can support our struggling Forward Section ...Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Blues Roster Update Spaling - Legwand - Hodgson Morrow - Goc - Bergenheim Bournival - Vitale - Erat Hoffman - Weiss - Mitchell Raffl - Gibbons Ehrhoff - Gelinas Gorges - Tallinder Volchenkov - Gryba Holden Mason Ramo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensman Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'd also like to note that 'being able to sign anybody you wanted' wasn't an effort to help your club turn things around. It was a by-product of your club having multiple holes in the roster. The players you offered for, some had multiple teams interested, but Carolina offered the best situation for those players in regards to holding places on the roster and getting ice time. It was an effort to accurately reflect a players desire to play and not be moved up and down between the big club and the minors. The one that might be questionable was Antoine Roussell, but after another team had agreed to a contract with Antoine, they graciously stepped aside to allow Carolina to sign him after miscommunication had one agent post a deal with the Canes before the other teams contract was posted. If that was an effort to help turn Carolina around, you'd have to ask that GM. I remember this opportunity, from when I signed up in Boston in 2009. My original roster had 10 players, so I ran out and signed 4 players in the first week: - Jannik Hansen - Brandon Sutter - Scott Parse (sad story, would`ve been great.) - Mathieu Perreault (signed to the minors - then the PDS- prospect development system) Man I really have stayed committed to my players, lol. All still on contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 POTM , POTW and Minor/Junior/College League Reports at Wednesday......i´m just to Busy ATM but Wed i have the whole Day off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da.moose Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 RUMOUR: The Washington Capitals are looking to add a big minute defenseman. Any teams willing to sell one should contact me via personal messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL. Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hey guys, just wanted to give everyone a heads up that I won't be around much until December 14th. Have a pretty insane work schedule for the first half of the month and probably won't be able to get on CDC much. I'll have the following weeks off so any inquiries will probably be answered then. Good luck to all, these playoff races are exciting to watch! -RL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal and Gary's Phlegms Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Rumour: Sources are speculating that a deal could be in the works involving Vancouver. There's been reports circulating about how Vancouver's management feels they need to be tougher to play against and have added grit and sandpaper to their top six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Burrows out again... blah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Burrows out again... blah... Check pm please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 LTIR: The Phoenix Coyotes place D Stephane Robidas on the LTIR retroactive to Nov 30, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 LTIR: The Pittsburgh Penguins place F Filip Forsberg on the LTIR retroactive to Dec 1, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 LTIR: The New York Rangers place F Ryan Malone, D Kevin Klein and D Philip Larsen on the LTIR retroactive to Dec 1, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 LTIR: The Columbus Blue Jackets place F Patrick Kaleta on the LTIR retroactive to Dec 2, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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