theminister Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Huge night for the Isles in trying to make up ground in the battle for the last playoff spot in the East. Rask - W = 10 Bergeron - A, +2, 2pim = 9 Hamilton - +2 = 4 Kuznetsov - G - 3 Halischuk - 2pim = 2 Seguin - GWG, A, +2 = 12 Tinordi - 2A, +1 = 12 Franzen - 2PPA = 8 Smith - +1, 2pim = 4 Edler - PPG, A, +1 = 13 Hutton - SO = 20 Cullen - A, +2 = 7 Wilson - A, +1 = 5 Jarnkrok - A, +1, 2pim = 7 116 points by my count.That's going to make the last couple of weeks interesting. Nothing for Garrison, Clifford, Bertuzzi, Bennett, and Schenn or it could have been even bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Huge night for the Isles in trying to make up ground in the battle for the last playoff spot in the East. Rask - W = 10 Bergeron - A, +2, 2pim = 9 Hamilton - +2 = 4 Kuznetsov - G - 3 Halischuk - 2pim = 2 Seguin - GWG, A, +2 = 12 Tinordi - 2A, +1 = 12 Franzen - 2PPA = 8 Smith - +1, 2pim = 4 Edler - PPG, A, +1 = 13 Hutton - SO = 20 Cullen - A, +2 = 7 Wilson - A, +1 = 5 Jarnkrok - A, +1, 2pim = 7 116 points by my count.That's going to make the last couple of weeks interesting. Nothing for Garrison, Clifford, Bertuzzi, Bennett, and Schenn or it could have been even bigger. Daaaaaaayum. Should make for an interesting last week! Solid 59 for FLA tonight, looks like LA struggled tonight so hopefully create some breathing room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Daaaaaaayum. Should make for an interesting last week! Solid 59 for FLA tonight, looks like LA struggled tonight so hopefully create some breathing room! As far as I can see, Carolina got around 45 points and Pittsburgh really struggled. If I made up 70 points of about 150 then that's big. I'm especially proud that only 8 points came from PIMs. That's the Isles way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 As far as I can see, Carolina got around 45 points and Pittsburgh really struggled. If I made up 70 points of about 150 then that's big. Yup, back to double digits, thats huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 It appears to be all sewn up out West, but the East's Metro Division is the tightest race in the league! Of course I forgot about league awards, but I dig that all 30 GM's vote on which players get what awards. The biggest race remaining by the way is that Washington, Carolina, Pittsburge and the Islanders are four teams basically fighting for 2 playoff spots and separated by just 146 points in total. With 4 games remaining on average for each player on each team, it is going to come down to the final wire!!!ATLANTIC1 Florida Panthers 5454 Z2 Ottawa Senators 5089 X3 Boston Bruins 4919 XMETROPOLITAN1 New Jersey Devils 5240 Y2 New York Rangers 4824 X3 Washington Capitals 4641WILD CARD1 Buffalo Sabres 4818 X2 Carolina Hurricanes 45703 Pittsburgh Penguins 45224 New York Islanders 44955 Detroit Redwings 42776 Tampa Bay Lightning 41697 Toronto Maple Leafs 40948 Montreal Canadiens 40029 Philadelphia Flyers 3704CENTRAL1 Minnesota Wild 4883 Y2 Winnipeg Jets 4705 X3 Chicago Blackhawks 4311 XPACIFIC1 Los Angeles Kings 5367 Z2 San Jose Sharks 4813 X3 Phoenix Coyotes 4782 XWILD CARD1 Vancouver Canucks 4678 X2 Edmonton Oilers 4419 X3 Anaheim Ducks 40284 Colorado Avalanche 39155 Nashville Predators 38866 St Louis Blues 38757 Calgary Flames 32948 Dallas Stars 32619 Columbus Blue Jackets 3066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 It appears to be all sewn up out West, but the East's Metro Division is the tightest race in the league! Of course I forgot about league awards, but I dig that all 30 GM's vote on which players get what awards. The biggest race remaining by the way is that Washington, Carolina, Pittsburge and the Islanders are four teams basically fighting for 2 playoff spots and separated by just 146 points in total. With 4 games remaining on average for each player on each team, it is going to come down to the final wire!!! ATLANTIC 1 Florida Panthers 5454 Z 2 Ottawa Senators 5089 X 3 Boston Bruins 4919 X METROPOLITAN 1 New Jersey Devils 5240 Y 2 New York Rangers 4824 X 3 Washington Capitals 4641 WILD CARD 1 Buffalo Sabres 4818 X 2 Carolina Hurricanes 4570 3 Pittsburgh Penguins 4522 4 New York Islanders 4495 5 Detroit Redwings 4277 6 Tampa Bay Lightning 4169 7 Toronto Maple Leafs 4094 8 Montreal Canadiens 4002 9 Philadelphia Flyers 3704 CENTRAL 1 Minnesota Wild 4883 Y 2 Winnipeg Jets 4705 X 3 Chicago Blackhawks 4311 X PACIFIC 1 Los Angeles Kings 5367 Z 2 San Jose Sharks 4813 X 3 Phoenix Coyotes 4782 X WILD CARD 1 Vancouver Canucks 4678 X 2 Edmonton Oilers 4419 X 3 Anaheim Ducks 4028 4 Colorado Avalanche 3915 5 Nashville Predators 3886 6 St Louis Blues 3875 7 Calgary Flames 3294 8 Dallas Stars 3261 9 Columbus Blue Jackets 3066 would be fine if my team reaches the 4k points mark ...and then looking forward to the next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 ^ 4k is not bad when you consider the East's average points so far this season are 4588 and the West's average is 4219. The overall league average is then 4404. Not to be all analytical, but there are only 4 teams outside the range that I would consider "parity" at the bottom of the standings this year and that is cool! At the same time there are marginally 3 or 4 teams above what could be considered 'parity' also, but that will happen each and every year, and is not so high above as to cause me any concern. In short, if the 26th team in the league ends up 200 points below the conference average, that is pretty good parity. I know the draft will help the last 4 teams out also, as it gives them assets...my guess is that next year will be even tighter!(edit) 200 points behind conference average is less than 5% off the average, and that is pretty tight really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunners Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Why the hell are all the quotes in italics and small scrolly boxes now. Is that just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 ^ 4k is not bad when you consider the East's average points so far this season are 4588 and the West's average is 4219. The overall league average is then 4404. Not to be all analytical, but there are only 4 teams outside the range that I would consider "parity" at the bottom of the standings this year and that is cool! At the same time there are marginally 3 or 4 teams above what could be considered 'parity' also, but that will happen each and every year, and is not so high above as to cause me any concern. In short, if the 26th team in the league ends up 200 points below the conference average, that is pretty good parity. I know the draft will help the last 4 teams out also, as it gives them assets...my guess is that next year will be even tighter! (edit) 200 points behind conference average is less than 5% off the average, and that is pretty tight really! i m sure my team could have done better but injuries and really bad slumps kept me on the bottom of the League. January and partly February showed me what my Team can really do though ...but since the Olympic Break a lot of Players are off again. Tallinder, Volchenkov, Erskine and Sulzer out/off in the past Weeks also hurts. I´m looking forward to the Draft and hope that i can grab a good Player who is probably NHL Ready imediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Why the hell are all the quotes in italics and small scrolly boxes now. Is that just me? nope ...i see that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensman Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 How haven't we abolished the awards affecting league standings rule yet? Hate to complain but this is the biggest flaw in our game. I like the awards, and think they are one of the more unique differences between our league and all the others. My 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da.moose Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I like the awards, and think they are one of the more unique differences between our league and all the others. My 2 cents. Obviously I respect everyone's opinion on this subject but for teams to move places in the standings after the regular season ends due to a voting system that is based on active General Managers in the leagues opinions tarnishes the integrity of the game in my opinion. In real life Alexander Ovechkin will win the Maurice Richard trophy but that does not give the real life Washington Capitals bonus wins to get into the playoffs. These players are already earning huge amounts of points with the stats that they earn by scoring for their teams and in my opinion that is all they should earn. Hockey more than any other sport in my opinion is a team game and every team is the sum of its parts. The award winning players are not always the players on the best teams. Obviously this rule will hold value this season but I hope that it can be changed or abolished next season. If we had awards based on stats that did not involve voting I think that would be an interesting twist. Maybe at the end of the season the league leaders in faceoff%, hits, and blocked shots could earn bonus points for their team. Just an idea. Maybe this isn't the time to bring something like this up and we could hold off discussions until the offseason. Maybe everyone but me loves the rule and their will be no discussions at all. Teams getting into the playoffs or moving places in the standings due to a voting system is very bias and anti climactic in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 We give points for awards? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I don't think it is bias if we all vote on which player gets the points for any given award, but maybe we should do vote 2 weeks before the trade deadline and then those votes would be tabulated for the end of the year..then there is no personal squeeker of a playoff race being decided by the votes...its all been voted on 2 months earlier before anyone knew what the races would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 any awards for the best comeback goalie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 How annoyed would theminister be if he loses his chance at the playoffs when MacKinnon wins the Calder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 How annoyed would theminister be if he loses his chance at the playoffs when MacKinnon wins the Calder. Not very. I might win an award or two myself. I'm kind of indifferent on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Obviously I respect everyone's opinion on this subject but for teams to move places in the standings after the regular season ends due to a voting system that is based on active General Managers in the leagues opinions tarnishes the integrity of the game in my opinion. In real life Alexander Ovechkin will win the Maurice Richard trophy but that does not give the real life Washington Capitals bonus wins to get into the playoffs. These players are already earning huge amounts of points with the stats that they earn by scoring for their teams and in my opinion that is all they should earn. Hockey more than any other sport in my opinion is a team game and every team is the sum of its parts. The award winning players are not always the players on the best teams. Obviously this rule will hold value this season but I hope that it can be changed or abolished next season. If we had awards based on stats that did not involve voting I think that would be an interesting twist. Maybe at the end of the season the league leaders in faceoff%, hits, and blocked shots could earn bonus points for their team. Just an idea. Maybe this isn't the time to bring something like this up and we could hold off discussions until the offseason. Maybe everyone but me loves the rule and their will be no discussions at all. Teams getting into the playoffs or moving places in the standings due to a voting system is very bias and anti climactic in my opinion. 1. Outright bonus points, no. But how many points did the Capitals gain in the standings because of some of those goals (most likely on the powerplay...)? How many extra points in the standings does a team have thanks to Selke type performances from a certain forward, or how many Norris Trophy caliber plays by a defender resulted in a win for a team where they otherwise may have lost? How many extra points did a team like Columbus last season get due to Sergei Bobrovsky's Vezina caliber season? That is the type of impact that those players have. It reflects throughout the year. Because the structure of our game is as it is, we cannot award those contributions in a tangible way without handing out points for those awards. That is what the awards are designed to reflect. 2. An interesting thought to discuss in the offseason perhaps. 3. I disagree. I think it adds an interesting twist and adds to the intrigue of the end of the season. We've had the awards every year since the game started. It has never once decided a division champion, and only once has it gotten a team into the playoffs and bumped another team out. Also, bias suggests that the outcome is fixed in some way and I strongly disagree with that. My votes for the Calder, Vezina, Hart etc. would be the same regardless of what CDCGML team they played on, and in the past the votes I have received from other GMs reflected the same. The weighted points system offers balance for the few GMs that might vote for a player specifically because of what team it may benefit or work against. That's also why teams cannot vote for their own players, to try and remove any potential bias. We've also removed past awards that are very subjective, like the King Clancy award. In real life it's a great award to have, but in this game it serves no real purpose and it will not be included in the voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionJax09 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 How haven't we abolished the awards affecting league standings rule yet? Hate to complain but this is the biggest flaw in our game. I agree 100%. Does not mirror the NHL in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 With Anaheim's playoff hopes gone we hope to finish off the season strong in efforts to not give the holder of our 1st rounder a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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