Herberts Vasiljevs Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Oh wow, if Kapanen is Datsyuk, then yes please! Oh wait, he's not. So I guess he'll still be out of the top 6? Yup.Can you read? His argument is that Kapanen will never be able to win a puck battle in the NHL though there is absolutely zero reason why he can't.More names then?Adam DeadmarshJere LehtinenAndrew BrunetteDaniel PailleAlex BurrowsDaniel Audette(the list goes on and on and on.....)I guess these players have NEVER won puck battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Oh wow, if Kapanen is Datsyuk, then yes please! Oh wait, he's not. So I guess he'll still be out of the top 6? Yup. Oh so whats ritchie then? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Opinions are like Duncan Keiths…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Just like you compare Ritchie to Kassian/Lucic/Shanahan? It doesn't mean anything either, he could also be nothing more than minor league fodder when all is said and done. Lol. Difference is Ritchie looks more promising in his Junior career than any other player his size ever has, The list of small fast 40 goal scorers is endless for Ehlers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Oh so whats ritchie then? Lol Fat, apparently. He's convinced Ritchie is fat. If you listen carefully he will insult any player not named Virtanen for the 6th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Just because you compare Ehlers, Kapanen and Nylander to Kane, Datsyuk, St Louis, Oshie, doesnt mean they'll be anything but a beer leaguer. Weird name I laugh at every timeOkay now I'm convinced that you are 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ya that post made no sense Merci. I don't know how you can be certain he can't play in the playoffs when he hasn't played a game in the NHL, and when many guys his size have already succeeded in the playoffs. Not to mention he's only 17, and at 6'0 - 181 could easily grow to be 6'1 200 when he's older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Difference is Ritchie looks more promising in his Junior career than any other player his size ever has, The list of small fast 40 goal scorers is endless for Ehlers, You realize that Ritchie is a 6'3" 230 pound player playing against a lot of very young undeveloped kids, while Kapanen and Nylander are playing in a mens league, right? Are you here to annoy people, or are you honestly 12-13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Can you read? His argument is that Kapanen will never be able to win a puck battle in the NHL though there is absolutely zero reason why he can't. More names then? Adam Deadmarsh Jere Lehtinen Andrew Brunette Daniel Paille Alex BurrowsDaniel Audette (the list goes on and on and on.....) I guess these players have NEVER won puck battles. Donald Audette? No, I don't think he won many puck battles. Brunette wasn't exactly great at that aspect either. He was magic once he got it but he asn't the best forechecker. I fact, he usually had a rough time keeping up with the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You realize that Ritchie is a 6'3" 230 pound player playing against a lot of very young undeveloped kids, while Kapanen and Nylander are playing in a mens league, right? Are you here to annoy people, or are you honestly 12-13? Ritchie isn't being carried by his size at all, watch a game. And those Euro leagues have dale Weise scoring at a 3ppg pace chump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowmobe Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 theres a huge difference between juniors and nhl! theres 15 year old kids play 20 year old kids think of how much you develop when you where 15 by the time you were 20! theres very few people that jump right into the league and have huge impact they just need to draft a skilled player that can address there scoring ill bet most of the prospects won't make it next year either i would rather have them work on things in the minors then get eating alive by the men and have there confidence dwindled i hope they keep developing players or get lucky with a super start that blows it up in training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yup, Kapanen is great at doing those things, strengths in his game. These aren't valid points against what Herbets said. He doesn't know much about Kapanen. Not against Burns. The skills to create offense and chances are possessed by every top 10 pick. Ritchie can actually engage in a puck battle against an NHLer Kapanen can't, that is a universal law. Poking the puck out of corners and having strong control of the puck with possession does not translate from Juniour and Euro leagues into an NHL playoff series. Stick checking goes from about twice a play to 10 times a play into the NHL. That speed he has is about half as effective against a professional d core. Size and the ability to physically push people out of the way translates better than what Kapanen is doing now. He can't take pucks out of the corner? Come on, anybody can do that no matter what height. You're acting like you've seen Kapanen play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He doesn't know much about Kapanen. He can't take pucks out of the corner? Come on, anybody can do that no matter what side. You're acting like you've seen Kapanen play. Gonna not respond when you can't even read Poking the puck out of corners and having strong control of the puck with possession does not translate from Juniour and Euro leagues into an NHL playoff series. I said he can't? Wut? I said it doesn't translate into the NHL as much as physicality can. you people are not even reading what we wrote because your Kapanen boner is so huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You realize that Ritchie is a 6'3" 230 pound player playing against a lot of very young undeveloped kids, while Kapanen and Nylander are playing in a mens league, right? Are you here to annoy people, or are you honestly 12-13?This.And if Kapanen is already 6'0 180lbs and has played very well in a mens league, how are people saying that he is an undersized player that won't be able to win puck battles in the NHL. It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ritchie isn't being carried by his size at all, watch a game. You honestly think being big doesn't help him play against undeveloped players? You're completely dodging the fact that Nylander and Kapanen are in mens-leagues too. Your argument holds no ground. Ritchie is talented, but being that big obviously helps your game when half the players you're playing against are very small. You don't even have to use your size exclusively for it to matter. He's playing against kids... Kids who can't knock him off the puck because they weigh 160 pounds. The NHL is a whole different world, where even the smaller guys are very strong. I personally feel like Ritchies game will not translate to the NHL as well or as quickly as some people are expecting it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ritchie isn't being carried by his size at all, watch a game. And those Euro leagues have dale Weise scoring at a 3ppg pace chump 1. Dutch League is alot worse than Swedish/Finnish leagues. 2. Dale Weise is an NHL player. 3. Dale Weise would do just as good in a junior league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 1. Dutch League is alot worse than Swedish/Finnish leagues. 2. Dale Weise is an NHL player. 3. Dale Weise would do just as good in a junior league. I laughed pretty hard at him trying to compare the Dutch league to the SM-Liiga or SHL. I'm convinced he's just a horrible troll job now, if not it's very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 So many absolute statements being made…. We are dealing in probabilities here, gentlemen. And not particularly high or reliable ones, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 So many absolute statements being made…. We are dealing in probabilities here, gentlemen. And not particularly high or reliable ones, either. Nothing is guaranteed at all in the draft, I like to just assume that everyone here is speaking their opinion rather than absolutes... Unfortunately, I'm probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ritchie isn't being carried by his size at all, watch a game. And those Euro leagues have dale Weise scoring at a 3ppg pace chump Dale weise played in the netherlands haha you have no reason to be arguing on this site because clearly you have no idea what you are rambling on about... IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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