Derp... Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I could see Kesler for Sutter, Pouliot, 1st then turn Sutter + 6th + Corrado into first or second Overall Kesler 6th Corrado Turns into Reinhart Pouliot and 22nd OA Pouliot replaces Corrado in the pipeline Reinhart replaces Kes could easily be better though still get 22nd a lot of unknowns, because none of the guys we get are proven, but to me it's worth the gamble. The value for first is a lot, but you need to think from Florida's/Buf perspective Some people would prefer to keep 6 and add what ever we can get for Kes from a team like Anahiem, personally I would rather trade out of the division, pick up a great PMD prospect a 1C prospect, and a late first that could be Bleackley Scherbak Larkin, or anyone of the numerous prospects all in that clump. If we did trade with Anahiem we could swing a deal using the 6th and 10th for top 2 pick and that would be a good value deal as we don't lose Corrado. If we keep all assets we get from the Kes trade and our pick. We add 2 good pieces, but I don't know what their value will be. SO many options this year... Big value to move up, maybe add a pick or prospect from Florida or Buf, but you gotta think from their perspective. What would Florida ask for? In 2008, the Leafs made a deal with the New York Islanders, moving from No. 7 overall to No. 5 overall to grab Luke Schenn. The cost of the deal was a second and third round draft pick. The Islanders moved down again, to No. 9 overall, in exchange for a second round draft pick. In 2004, the Carolina Hurricanes advanced from No. 8 overall to No. 4 overall, trading a second round pick to the Columbus Blue Jackets in the process. In 2003, the Pittsburgh Penguins moved from the No. 3 overall slot to No. 1 overall in their pursuit of goalie Marc-Andre Fleury; the cost was Mikael Samuelsson and a second round draft pick (with a third rounder coming the other way). Every draft is a little different – looking back, the cost to move up in 2003 or 2004 was significantly less than it was in 2008. With that said, the deal suggested to Joyce seems to be in the range, particularly since we’re likely talking about a team a little ways back making a significant move up the draft order. http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/06/04/is-the-edmonton-oilers-best-play-at-the-2014-nhl-draft-to-move-down-in-exchange-for-immediate-help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I swear you just posted this somewhere else. The Sabres dont want an RFA 25 year old 3rd line guy and a 5th round Corrado who hasnt even made the NHL to trade down to the #6 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 I swear you just posted this somewhere else. The Sabres dont want an RFA 25 year old 3rd line guy and a 5th round Corrado who hasnt even made the NHL to trade down to the #6 spot. I did but two people were bickering about whatever in that thread so I decided to move it to proposal in order to get some feedback. I realize you don't think it's fair value and that's okay. Just an idea that I had. I'm interested to see what you think would improve it though?? Your welcome for the Plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 ^Or try your 2nd deal with Buffalo, instead of Flor? I like Corrado..maybe this? Sutter, TANEV, #6 pick & Gaunce/Jensen(don't know if Buff wants another young C) Their #2 overall, & Ristolainen(big righty, #8 from 2013 class), & a 2015 2nd(they've got a bushel of high picks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 1. Sure 2. Nope. Corrado's not going to cut it. Going to have to throw in Tanev or some1 w/ better value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 ^Or try your 2nd deal with Buffalo, instead of Flor? I like Corrado..maybe this? Sutter, TANEV, #6 pick & Gaunce/Jensen(don't know if Buff wants another young C) Their #2 overall, & Ristolainen(big righty, #8 from 2013 class), & a 2015 2nd(they've got a bushel of high picks). The Sabres reject, actually I reject for them. That is truly awful. Both Ristolainen and Zadorov are off limits from Buffalo's point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I could see florida maybe being interested if it was Tanev, already seasoned into a top 4 guy. Corrado doesn't really help them win now. I would actually be cool with it if it meant pouliot is coming our way. Out Kesler(might not resign in 2yrs anyway) Tanev(good but pouliot has star PMD written all over him) and 6th. In Reinhart(future first line centre) Pouliot(future #1 offensive dman) and wildcard pick(Ho-Sang/Milano maybe) Shinkaruk Reinhart Jensen Ho-Sang Horvat Kassian Pouliot Corrado Hutton Subban That's a skilled lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I could see Kesler for Sutter, Pouliot, 1st then turn Sutter + 6th + Corrado into first or second Overall Kesler 6th Corrado Turns into Reinhart Pouliot and 22nd OA Pouliot replaces Corrado in the pipeline Reinhart replaces Kes could easily be better though still get 22nd a lot of unknowns, because none of the guys we get are proven, but to me it's worth the gamble. The value for first is a lot, but you need to think from Florida's/Buf perspective Some people would prefer to keep 6 and add what ever we can get for Kes from a team like Anahiem, personally I would rather trade out of the division, pick up a great PMD prospect a 1C prospect, and a late first that could be Bleackley Scherbak Larkin, or anyone of the numerous prospects all in that clump. If we did trade with Anahiem we could swing a deal using the 6th and 10th for top 2 pick and that would be a good value deal as we don't lose Corrado. If we keep all assets we get from the Kes trade and our pick. We add 2 good pieces, but I don't know what their value will be. SO many options this year... Big value to move up, maybe add a pick or prospect from Florida or Buf, but you gotta think from their perspective. What would Florida ask for? In 2008, the Leafs made a deal with the New York Islanders, moving from No. 7 overall to No. 5 overall to grab Luke Schenn. The cost of the deal was a second and third round draft pick. The Islanders moved down again, to No. 9 overall, in exchange for a second round draft pick. In 2004, the Carolina Hurricanes advanced from No. 8 overall to No. 4 overall, trading a second round pick to the Columbus Blue Jackets in the process. In 2003, the Pittsburgh Penguins moved from the No. 3 overall slot to No. 1 overall in their pursuit of goalie Marc-Andre Fleury; the cost was Mikael Samuelsson and a second round draft pick (with a third rounder coming the other way). Every draft is a little different – looking back, the cost to move up in 2003 or 2004 was significantly less than it was in 2008. With that said, the deal suggested to Joyce seems to be in the range, particularly since we’re likely talking about a team a little ways back making a significant move up the draft order. http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/06/04/is-the-edmonton-oilers-best-play-at-the-2014-nhl-draft-to-move-down-in-exchange-for-immediate-help/ Florida & Buffalo would both reject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I could see florida maybe being interested if it was Tanev, already seasoned into a top 4 guy. Corrado doesn't really help them win now. I would actually be cool with it if it meant pouliot is coming our way. Out Kesler(might not resign in 2yrs anyway) Tanev(good but pouliot has star PMD written all over him) and 6th. In Reinhart(future first line centre) Pouliot(future #1 offensive dman) and wildcard pick(Ho-Sang/Milano maybe) Shinkaruk Reinhart Jensen Ho-Sang Horvat Kassian Pouliot Corrado Hutton Subban That's a skilled lineup Defense would need to be worked on in that lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Defense would need to be worked on in that lineup. For sure but we'd have plenty of time to do that. It's a great head start locking down a number 1 puck mover and top centre. Start by taking one with the 36th pick and possibly your first rounder next year. If we crap the bed again maybe we get hanifin or next best D to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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