aeromotacanucks Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Today Brazil is voting to elect it´s next President, Governors, Senators, State Representatives and Congressmans... since 1996 Brazil is using the "Eletronic Voting System" only. considering the normal situation it takes 6 hours for the results come to an end. The system is simple and straight foward. each candidate has a number, on the election you type the candidate´s number into the voting machine. the candidate who receive more votes wins. State Representatives: 5 digits Congressman: 4 digits Senators: 3 digits Governors: 2 digits President: 2 digits Vote is MANDATORY in Brazil. you have to vote, if not you have to justify/explain to the government WHY you didn´t vote. If you´re overseas you have to go to a Brazilian consulate to justify why you didn´t vote... Brazilians living overseas also have to vote. this is normally done on Brazilian consulates. WHAT HAPPEN IF YOU DON´T VOTE AND YOU DON´T JUSTIFY: if you don´t vote/justify on 2 elections you lose: your Social Security Number you cant get/renew your passport you can´t get a job on the government you have to pay a fine of US$ 60 (R$120) you can´t open a bank account, get money loaned from any bank and you can´t get an extra credit card... you can´t also serve on the Brazilian Army/Navy/Air Force Brazilians hold a "Voting certificate" (Voting registration) that also counts as a formal document. HOWEVER if you forget this document you still can vote using your ID, driving license or and professional document (like a Pilot´s License) also recently Brazil adopted a biometric identification, means you have to put your fingerprint on a machine to avoid frauds, it also counts as a triple way identification. (Voting Certificate, ID and fingerprint) Brazilian Elections are done on the 1st sunday of october and it´s kind a holiday the pools open at 8AM and close at 5PM (Brasilia time). streets are normally calm and organized. an average person needs less than a minute to vote... http://news.yahoo.com/brazilians-polls-nail-biter-election-president-051008307--business.html http://news.yahoo.com/dramatic-campaign-brazilians-set-vote-143448082.html http://news.yahoo.com/brazilians-vote-election-full-surprises-040523461.html Brief explanation of how the Brazilian Election works... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Brazil Next round. October 26th between Dilma VS Aécio Neves Who is Aécio Neves. Party: PSDB Voting number: 45 Equivalent party in USA: Republican http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9cio_Neves Who is Dilma Rousseff. Party: PT Voting number: 13 Equivalent party in USA: Democrat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff Next round: October 26th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:D Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 When voting is compulsory, you get stuff like this happening. SAO PAULO – A candidate running for the Amazonia state assembly in northern Brazil under the monicker Osama Bin Laden was detained during Sunday’s vote for illegal campaigning outside the local polls, electoral officials said. ‘Bin Laden’, real name Manoel Nunes de Assis, was standing for the tiny centrist National Labor Party (PTN). Clad in a tunic similar to that worn by the Al-Qaeda mastermind killed in a US raid in Pakistan three years ago, Nunes was arrested in regional capital, Manaus, as he urged voters to cast their ballots while handing out bottles of water, and hauled off to the regional electoral court for questioning. “He stood in the doorway on the pretext of selling water while approaching people and asking for votes,” the G1 web portal quoted electoral magistrate Henrique Veiga as saying. Electoral rules allow candidates to stand under whatever name they choose and this year has seen an imaginative crop, including Wonder Woman and Rambo, while a handful also stood as Barack Obama. Nunes, one of three candidates named Bin Laden standing in Sunday’s presidential and legislative elections, faces being removed from the race if he is found to have violated election rules. The Superior Electoral Court (TSE) had detained 551 people in all, including 55 candidates, for various indiscretions nationwide an hour before polls closed at 2000 GMT in most of Brazil’s 27 states. In the last national elections four years ago, a Sao Paulo clown named Tiririca (Grumpy) ran for Congress on the campaign slogan “It can’t get any worse.” He won the most votes of any congressional candidate in the country, 1.3 million, and had to learn to write his name to start his new job. He’s also standing again. When you force people to vote, they will just vote for whoever is the goofiest candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 When voting is compulsory, you get stuff like this happening. When you force people to vote, they will just vote for whoever is the goofiest candidate. this guy will never win for Amazonas government. PTN? another tiny small party who will never do anything to the state... Eduardo Braga will win in Amazonas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 When voting is compulsory, you get stuff like this happening. When you force people to vote, they will just vote for whoever is the goofiest candidate. I'd vote for him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:D Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just saying that when you force people to vote, they will make a mockery of it. If I were forced to vote in an election in Brazil, I would just vote for a woman with a big ol' jangly booty. That's like... half of Brazil right? Soccer players and girls with big bubble butts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Comparing Rousseff to a Democrat is a bit of a stretch. Granted, she has become much more moderate in recent years, but that does not change the fact that her roots are grounded in Marxist ideals (similar to Lula). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Just saying that when you force people to vote, they will make a mockery of it. If I were forced to vote in an election in Brazil, I would just vote for a woman with a big ol' jangly booty. That's like... half of Brazil right? Soccer players and girls with big bubble butts? It's a bit of a contradiction, I agree. Having the freedom and right to choose includes having the right to not vote. Having said that, one could simply spoil their ballot if they opposed all candidates. That's not the same as not voting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazmanian Devil Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 oops, misread the thread title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Comparing Rousseff to a Democrat is a bit of a stretch. Granted, she has become much more moderate in recent years, but that does not change the fact that her roots are grounded in Marxist ideals (similar to Lula). Dilma is just a puppet of Lula and PT (Workers Party) (Partido dos Trabalhadores) the party had implemented a lot of social programs designed to give free money to the poor people without make them work for this money... Lula says to the poor people "vote for Dilma" and the poor people will vote for Dilma... SO it creates a circle. the government gives free money to the poor people and these poor people don´t have to work, the government give free food, water and eletricity. and the poor people don´t have to work to get this... SO the middle class has to pay for this. the living cost in Brazil is getting higher and higher because the government expenses is becoming higher every year. just for curitosity today it´s cheaper travel to New York/USA than to Fortaleza. that´s because the "Brazil cost" makes things expensive caused by bureaucracy and lack of investiments... the USA government clearly support Aécio Neves because his economic policy plans is much more aligned with Washington... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Dilma is just a puppet of Lula and PT (Workers Party) (Partido dos Trabalhadores) the party had implemented a lot of social programs designed to give free money to the poor people without make them work for this money... Lula says to the poor people "vote for Dilma" and the poor people will vote for Dilma... SO it creates a circle. the government gives free money to the poor people and these poor people don´t have to work, the government give free food, water and eletricity. and the poor people don´t have to work to get this... SO the middle class has to pay for this. the living cost in Brazil is getting higher and higher because the government expenses is becoming higher every year. just for curitosity today it´s cheaper travel to New York/USA than to Fortaleza. that´s because the "Brazil cost" makes things expensive caused by bureaucracy and lack of investiments... the USA government clearly support Aécio Neves because his economic policy plans is much more aligned with Washington... This all may be true - all I said was comparing them to Democrats was a stretch. Your post strengthens my case to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 This all may be true - all I said was comparing them to Democrats was a stretch. Your post strengthens my case to be honest. I agree with you. BUT since PSDB is much more like the Republican Party and there´s no "Socialist Party" in USA (as far as I know) and the constant social programs done by Obama... I can see Dilma much more like a Democrat than a Republican. with tons of differences of course, but still looks more like a democrat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I agree with you. BUT since PSDB is much more like the Republican Party and there´s no "Socialist Party" in USA (as far as I know) and the constant social programs done by Obama... I can see Dilma much more like a Democrat than a Republican. with tons of differences of course, but still looks more like a democrat... Ya fair enough. I think comparing the two nations s very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobble Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We should make voting mandatory. Although I don't agree with electronic voting. Too much room to be manipulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We should make voting mandatory. Although I don't agree with electronic voting. Too much room to be manipulated. I disagree with mandatory voting. People who aren't interested, or informed, in, or about, the current issues, and debates, relevant to an election run deserve to exercise their right to remain ignorant, useless, and removed from the voting system. Forcing plugs to vote doesn't guarantee the quality of the vote. If we want a greater voter turnout it begins with education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 What would count as a excuse for not voting? Would "I do not feel that I have enough knowledge of each candidate to make an informed decision" work? Of would you need a excuse like "my wife was giving birth" or "I fell and couldnt get up" Im a big fan of not voting. That way I can always say "I didnt vote for these turkeys" whenever they do something stupid. My elected officials dont represent me since I obviously didnt vote for any of them and I can use this as an excuse for my further lack of participation. Then I can just sit back and relax. Im a big fan of relaxing. Thats something I would vote for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 "Holy frack, a brazilian elections?" "Get me the President" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 "Holy frack, a brazilian elections?" "Get me the President" I´m pretty sure that Russia and China are very interested to know who will be the next president here since the economic views of each side are very different... and considering that if Aecio wins de election the US-Brazil relationship will change a lot since his views are much more favorable with the Wall Street´s bankers... So yes. call the president, but on october 26th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 What would count as a excuse for not voting? Would "I do not feel that I have enough knowledge of each candidate to make an informed decision" work? Of would you need a excuse like "my wife was giving birth" or "I fell and couldnt get up" Im a big fan of not voting. That way I can always say "I didnt vote for these turkeys" whenever they do something stupid. My elected officials dont represent me since I obviously didnt vote for any of them and I can use this as an excuse for my further lack of participation. Then I can just sit back and relax. Im a big fan of relaxing. Thats something I would vote for. if you´re ill you have to show a medical statement showing you were sick, if you had a car accident you have to show some document proving you actually had an accident, if you were traveling you have to show the airline/bus ticket or some document proving you were traveling on the election day... if you wife was giving birth you and your wife must show a document proving your wive was actually giving birth... you can´t simply say "meh. I didn´t want wake up early in the morning to vote" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 GOVERNMENT PLANS Economy Dilma Rousseff: Vigorously defends her government's economic achievements including record low unemployment Hampered by low growth rates and the fact that the country has slipped into a technical recession Critics accuse her administration of too much economic intervention Announced - after wide-spread criticism - that if re-elected she would need a new economic team: Brazil's long-serving Finance Minister Guido Mantega to leave - but for personal reasons Promises to tackle inflation, which currently is at the top of the government's target range Vows to make Brazil more competitive, tackling bureaucracy and boosting investments to improve infrastructure Aecio Neves: Says his priority is to get the economy back on track by focussing on three key issues: tackling inflation, fiscal responsibility and a floating exchange rate system Argues the economy needs greater transparency and predictability to attract investors Demands less government interference Announced a high-profile name as his potential finance minister: the former president of Brazil's Central Bank, Arminio Fraga Education Dilma Rousseff: Promises to invest revenue from newly discovered deepwater oil reserves in education Vows to create 100,000 new scholarships under the Science without Borders programme, offering grants for graduate and postgraduate students studying abroad Wants to expand the reach of the Pronatec education scheme, which has provided professional training for 7.5 million people since 2011 - and she wants to make that 20 million in her second mandate Aecio Neves: Holds up his achievements as governor of Minas Gerais state as an example of what he could achieve as president Says linking teachers' salaries to performance levels worked well in Minas Gerais Advocates greater recognition for teachers, including better conditions and salaries Promises universal education for children aged four to 17 Social policy Dilma Rousseff: Promises to expand the flagship Bolsa Familia programme which provides a cash transfer to millions of poor Brazilian families in return for sending children to school and getting them vaccinated Wants to to extend its reach, especially to those so far excluded from it Argues that the popular programme - the president won in many of the states where it is widely available - is safest in the hands of the Workers' Party government Aecio Neves: Promises to preserve and expand Bolsa Familia Insists Bolsa Familia was inspired by programmes created during his party's time in power Suggests creating a programme aimed at improving life conditions for Brazil's most vulnerable families Wants to map Brazil's poorest areas to target those most in need Corruption Dilma Rousseff: Has been hit hard by corruption scandals in the past decade but says her administration has a good record of rigorously investigating corruption and sacking and/or arresting offenders Has proposed a five-point plan to combat corruption, including punishing public bodies which acquire goods or property and cannot prove where the money to finance them came from Wants the use of undeclared funds to finance political campaigns to be declared a crime and made punishable as such Aecio Neves: Has seized on corruption allegations made against state-run oil company Petrobras to attack Ms Rousseff, who chaired the company's board from 2003 to 2010 Says that Petrobras has moved from the economic to the crime section of newspapers under the current government Has promised to improve legislation to combat white-collar crime and to enhance training for agents whose job it is to combat corruption Security Dilma Rousseff: Wants to build on the success of intelligence co-ordination during the World Cup Aims to better integrate public security agencies across the country Promises to expand investment in security policies at the state level Proposes a national academy specialising in training police officers and investigators Believes better education is key to tackling crime among young people and opposes lowering the age of criminal responsibility Aecio Neves: Suggests a partnership with the private sector to build new prisons to combat violence and overcrowding in Brazil's jails, which have been labelled "mediaeval" by the justice minister Advocates reducing the age of criminal responsibility from 18 to 16 for the most serious offences, to combat youth crime Proposes new intelligence-gathering centres for the police Wants greater integration of the different security forces Health Dilma Rousseff: Strongly defends her government's flagship Mais Medicos (More Doctors) programme which aims to boost healthcare by bringing in doctors from abroad Aims to expand the programme further despite criticism by Brazilian doctors, who say Cuban doctors brought in under Mais Medicos only received part of the pay destined to them, with the larger slice going to the Cuban government Wants to increase the number of specialists available within the public health system to treat specific illnesses such as lung or heart disease Plans to build new clinics and emergency centres, and expand treatment in existing private and charitable institutions Aecio Neves: Aims to devote 10% of government income to health Proposes the creation of hundreds of new health centres and the opening of accessible health consultancy centres to deal with the shortage of specialists Plans to open health clinics in poor and violent areas, and in the outskirts of big cities Wants to improve the Mais Medicos programme but stresses his priority would be to use Brazilian doctors http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29520776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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