Mackcanuck Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Yahoo Sports NHL @YahooSportsNHL 4m4 minutes ago Report: Las Vegas #NHL ticket drive hits 10,000 Congratulations Las Vegas and prospective NHL owner Bill Foley. You have exceeded the magic 10,000 ticket deposit threshold according to ESPN.com, which is a major step towards getting an NHL franchise. Woohoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Yahoo Sports NHL @YahooSportsNHL 4m4 minutes ago Report: Las Vegas #NHL ticket drive hits 10,000 Congratulations Las Vegas and prospective NHL owner Bill Foley. You have exceeded the magic 10,000 ticket deposit threshold according to ESPN.com, which is a major step towards getting an NHL franchise. Woohoo! Next comes the name, I'm guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 NHL: We want to expand. PA: No. NHL: Aw, please! PA: No. NHL: We'll give you cups in these new locations. PA: Still no. NHL: Increased revenue? Cha-ching? PA: Nope. NHL: Okay, how about the first expansion location is a PA party place? Vegas, baby! PA: Now you're talking!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 vegas will be an expansion, quebec a relocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 NHL: We want to expand. PA: No. NHL: Aw, please! PA: No. NHL: We'll give you cups in these new locations. PA: Still no. NHL: Increased revenue? Cha-ching? PA: Nope. NHL: Okay, how about the first expansion location is a PA party place? Vegas, baby! PA: Now you're talking!!! why would the players association not want more jobs available to them? The PA would always be pro-expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 vegas will be an expansion, quebec a relocation. That's been my belief for the past two years. Seattle will be the other expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 The rumoured expansion fee is $450M to $500M "It is believed the prospective ownership group has also had preliminary discussions about an expansion fee with the league that would be between $450 and $500 million. That money is attractive to NHL owners, as it does not have to be shared with players under the current collective bargaining agreement." http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12589099/las-vegas-ticket-drive-turns-corporations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 They will have to give them the unofficial go ahead almost immediately because they will want to have most of their front office in place by midsummer....or their scouting staff earlier, at least. By the official announcement the new GM will be already, if not very nearly, in place. With the U-18s coming up they need to be starting getting ready for the 2016 draft ASAP. Anyone want to make any guesses on the shortlist for GM? I'd suggest Fenton and McPhee with the leading candidate to be Mike Futa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 They will have to give them the unofficial go ahead almost immediately because they will want to have most of their front office in place by midsummer....or their scouting staff earlier, at least. By the official announcement the new GM will be already, if not very nearly, in place. With the U-18s coming up they need to be starting getting ready for the 2016 draft ASAP. Anyone want to make any guesses on the shortlist for GM? I'd suggest Fenton and McPhee with the leading candidate to be Mike Futa. Gillis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Gillis? Nope. I decided using my brain in this convo. The GM will not only need to be a good hockey person but also a good salesman. MG is certainly not the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Nope. I decided using my brain in this convo. The GM will not only need to be a good hockey person but also a good salesman. MG is certainly not the latter. Wouldn't be surprised if it was Gilman or BriseBois, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Wouldn't be surprised if it was Gilman or BriseBois, though. I'd be surprised if it was Gilman because I don't think he has the personality they will want in a market like LV. He is too understated to be the frontman they will need in that city. I can't say i know much about BriseBois except that he is qualified but I would question whether having a Francophone is likely or not in a new US market even though his accent is not very noticeable. Now… I would add Tim Burke's name to the list I think will be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 why would the players association not want more jobs available to them? The PA would always be pro-expansion.Apparently not. I think they were concerned about watered down talent in my fake conversation. But that's only a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That's been my belief for the past two years. Seattle will be the other expansion. hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Apparently not. I think they were concerned about watered down talent in my fake conversation. But that's only a guess. the NHLPA would never care about a watered down product. what they MIGHT be concerned about is that the expansion fees don't count towards HHR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 the NHLPA would never care about a watered down product. what they MIGHT be concerned about is that the expansion fees don't count towards HHR. To late to worry about that. It was a concession that they accepted with open eyes in the last CBA negotiation. To anyone paying attention the fact that it was such an important factor to the BoG, that expansion and relocation fees did not count towards league related revenue, should have been an obvious indicator. When I saw it I knew it was more than a "Just in case" clause, that it was a done deal. The PA had to know it too because they passed up over a $1B in share to get the deal done. While that clause is in place the NHL will use it to its full effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 To late to worry about that. It was a concession that they accepted with open eyes in the last CBA negotiation. To anyone paying attention the fact that it was such an important factor to the BoG, that expansion and relocation fees did not count towards league related revenue, should have been an obvious indicator. When I saw it I knew it was more than a "Just in case" clause, that it was a done deal. The PA had to know it too because they passed up over a $1B in share to get the deal done. While that clause is in place the NHL will use it to its full effect. Yeah - if anything, that's a red flag that the league is going to fully pursue any ideas of expansion and relocation before this CBA expires. If there are any plans to get a billion-dollar windfall for a 2nd Toronto team, you can bet that it will be signed, sealed, and delivered before the next CBA talks begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 To late to worry about that. It was a concession that they accepted with open eyes in the last CBA negotiation. To anyone paying attention the fact that it was such an important factor to the BoG, that expansion and relocation fees did not count towards league related revenue, should have been an obvious indicator. When I saw it I knew it was more than a "Just in case" clause, that it was a done deal. The PA had to know it too because they passed up over a $1B in share to get the deal done. While that clause is in place the NHL will use it to its full effect. they probably have been pro expansion (more job opening for their members) for a long time, and were fine with conceding the expansion fees in order to allow for those to come to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 they probably have been pro expansion (more job opening for their members) for a long time, and were fine with conceding the expansion fees in order to allow for those to come to fruition. Agreed. While they knew that they were giving up a piece they used to have a claim on that the net effect would be in their long term favour on the ledger. I don't think that the second Toronto franchise will be on the table during this CBA but you never know, I guess. The lack of a viable building, and the opposition to overcome, in the timeframe makes it highly unlikely IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Vegas Arena taking shape What it will look like finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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