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was that the post about your sore sphincter?

No, it was the one about how bringing in a couple of nutjobs like Kessel and Phaneuf and removing the leadership qualities of the Sedins to do so would be the absolute worst thing for our prospects and would most likely destroy our future.

Only a secret Leaf fan would suggest otherwise.

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Yeah, just remember, our Riders here in SK won a Grey Cup with Geroy Simon. We don't want the same thing happening to the Leafs.

Yeah Geroy was a bench warmer for most of the season and SK was a good team...a legit cup favorite.

The Leafs...not so much a cup favorite...

And remember this

That was Geroy's final season

Buono recognized that Geroy was almost done and acted

Geroy had one last great game in him...the SK Gray Cup win

and Geroy was a champion

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Hmm, let's see:

Sedin's stats:

138 combined games played

120 combined points

+9 combined +/-

Salary: $14M

Whereas:

Phaneuf and Kessel stats:

130 combined games played

81 combined points

-41 combined +/-

Salary: $15M

Is there really an argument here?

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Hmm, let's see:

Sedin's stats:

138 combined games played

120 combined points

+9 combined +/-

Salary: $14M

Whereas:

Phaneuf and Kessel stats:

130 combined games played

81 combined points

-41 combined +/-

Salary: $15M

Is there really an argument here?

Yeah... compare the previous 3 years and you will see that Kessel outscored any one Sedin and he is younger so he has more good years ahead of him. Phaneuf being a defenseman is not a fair comparison scoring wise

Kessel 214 points in 212 games...94 goals

Henrik 176 points in 200 games ...36 goals

Daniel 154 pts in192 games....58 goals

Kessel has the same number of goals as do the Sedin bros. combined

Kessl...8 million

Sedins ... 14 million

or we can just compare last years stats

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Yeah... compare the previous 3 years and you will see that Kessel outscored any one Sedin and he is younger so he has more good years ahead of him. Phaneuf being a defenseman is not a fair comparison scoring wise

Kessel 214 points in 212 games...94 goals

Henrik 176 points in 200 games ...36 goals

Daniel 154 pts in192 games....58 goals

Kessel has the same number of goals as do the Sedin bros. combined

Kessl...8 million

Sedins ... 14 million

Do you honestly believe any team would rather have Kessel and Phaneuf over the Sedin's? Kessel has also outscored Zetterberg and Datsyuk over that time period, and nobody in their right mind would do that either.

Sedin's, like Zetterberg and Datsyuk, make other players better AND play a 200 foot game.

On the other hand, Kessel is as one dimensional as you get, and Phaneuf is an incredibly replaceable defenseman at this point in his career.

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If these 2 guys are traded this summer we'll revisit this discussion and you will all eat crow as Kessel fills the net on a new team

It seems that a "one dimensional " player who can fill the net holds more value than a so called "2 way" player according to NHL salaries. You just surround them with "2 way" players

Kessel is a pure goal scorer!

This team needs goal scoring!

I don't think the Sedins have ever been known as "2 way" payers and they are not goal scorers

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