Mr.53 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 First off let me start by saying, I think we have a good team, and a good prospect pool. A few pieces and this team can be in good shape to compete for now as well as the future. Our best course of action would be to generally avoid this year's free agency, especially at the top end, to avoid paying out massive contracts, either by cap hit, NTC, or term or a mix of the three. We still need to address however, our lack of top pairing defencmen in our draft pool, as well as a move to make us better and able to compete next year. Here would be my free agency plan? Move number 1: Trade with Anaheim to Anaheim: Kevin Bieksa, Nicklas Jensen, and Nikita Tryamkin to Vancouver Shea Theodore, 3rd round pick. (most likely late third, in the 90 over range) Move number 2: Trade with New York Islanders To NYI: Chris Higgins To Van: 2nd round pick (3rd round if they won't budge) Move number 3: Sign Mike Santorelli. 3 years 2.5 million. (That's Chris Higgins/Jannik Hansen money. Fair for both sides) (Conditional move): Sign Cody Franson. 4 years 4 million. I think Cody Franson is going to bed paid boatloads of money this summer. i don't think we can afford him. But provided he takes a pay cut to come home, a deal could work. I will just assume no though Call up: Baesrtschi,Grenier, Clendening, Corrado, and Markstrom. Pay them the lowest possible, but getting them NHL exposure is a must. It's really simple, but I think all of these deals are very possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Move number 1: Trade with Anaheim The big one to Anaheim: Kevin Bieksa, Nicklas Jensen, and Nikita Tryamkin to Vancouver Shea Theodore, 3rd/4th round pick. (most likely late third, in the 80 or the 110 range) Why Anaheim does this. Stanley Cup aspirations: Anaheim has a pretty stacked prospect pool. This year they just added Jacob Larsson who they fully expect to be a top 4 defensman if not a top pairing defensman. Now I'm not saying they don't need Shea Theodore as too much depth is never a bad thing, but Anaheim can easily afford to make this move especially if it makes their team better right now. Losing Theodore would suck, but it's not so bad when you have Jacob Larsson coming, and your team is already deep at pretty much every prospect position. Their concern is getting passed the blackhawks next season. Shea Theodore is 2-3 season's from actually being able to help out the Ducks on a significant level. Bieksa: The San Jose deal fell through and from the sound of it, Benning values Bieksa at a mid 2nd rounder+ at least. I think thats fair, and shows he has value. I think Bieksa would fit really well with Anaheim. I don't think I have to go through Bieksas qualities with you guys. Leadership, grit, defensive awareness, hustle, etc. Bieksa is the blue line version of Kesler when it comes to being a workhorse. Why not unite the two? Bieksa along with Kes, makes Anaheim better for next season, and gives their young goalies more defensive help. Maybe that can push them over the top to win the Western Conference title. Jensen: Nicklas Jensen is still a speedy 6'3, 200 pound sniper that can do damage. We all know the story. He has the whole package, but lacks consistently for either his offensive or defensive role. Anaheim just gave up Emerson Etem to the NYR and got speedy Carl Hagelin in return, most likely to play with Speedy Kesler. Jensen gets a new change of scenery which can be the kick in his gear to get his career on track. Also, he provides excellent depth for their cup run in case of injures. Jensen makes their team deeper for a cup run, and can easily be adopted to their core as early as next season. Who knows, maybe after a year or 2, he can become a regular. Tryamkin: When it comes to the left side, especially after this move, I just don't really see a use for Tryamkin in our system. When it comes to Left defense, Ben Hutton is our 2 way offensive prospect, Guilliame Brisebois is our defensive specialist/ potential leader, and Andrey Pedan is our big man physical force. Add Ashton Sautner and I just don't see much value for him to us. To Anaheim though, he is still a 6'7 defensive defensman who could make the league in 3 years or so. He is acts as consolation to losing Shea Theodore. All in all, they receive Bieksa, who reunites with Kes, for their immediate cup run, Nicklas Jensen who provides injury depth during that cup run as well as providing them with a skilled power winger, as Nikita Tryamkin, who is a 19 year old 6'7 defensive defensman who is a couple years away, but shows massive potential. Why Vancouver does this Theodore: We get the blue chip defensive prospect everyone wants. He's a 6'2, 185 pound offensive PMD who shows a full complete game, and he just happens to be from Britsh Columbia. After adding Boeser, the only thing missing in our prospect pool is a number 1 defensman. Theodore is the perfect fit. Apparently Jim Benning was trying to target Jeremy Roy when he was trying to deal Bieksa. Either by drafting him or making another trade. Instead of turning Bieksa into Roy, I don't think Benning would be opposed to paying a little extra to get Theodore. If there was ever a time to get him now would be it. Anaheim is looking to win a cup now and they just drafted a left handed stud 2 way defensman. It's not unreasonable to think they would like to add defensive veteran help, especially if they are still getting 2 big bodied prospects with potential in the deal. I think the deal is fair for both sides. Now I know Theodore is also a left handed prospect, but when you get the chance to get a number 1 stud defensive prospect, you deal with it, whatever handiness. Also to clarify, Brisebois played most of the season switching sides and is adept to both left and right. 3rd round pick: This is just an added fluff piece I gave to give this more balance. If you think that adding a third is too much, ok. It was mostly just to add a little icing on the cake considering were giving up 3 pieces for a prospect who hasn't played a game yet. Move number 2: Trade with New York Islanders The smaller one To NYI: Chris Higgins To Van: 2nd round pick (third if no team budges) Why NYI does this Depth and cap space: NYI, after that awesome season expect more. The fans want more playoff hockey. The NYI will have to find ways to improve their team without giving up too much future. Chris Higgins is the perfect fit. He gets to go back to his hometown and play for the team he grew up idolizing, so you know he would waive his NTC, and NYI gets Chris Higgins: a great 200 foot player that NYI can use in all situations, including penalty kill. He can give great third line minutes, and 2nd line if injuries occur. His simple 200 foot game make him easy to play with in case he has to hop in with Tavares at any time. Chris Higgins: The most important part about Chris Higgins that makes him so valuable is the fact that he has 2 years left on his contract at 2.5 million dollars. The islanders add depth to their playoff team, and don't give up much cap, which still gives them the opportunity to explore free agents. Higgins contract is what makes him so valuable (and inversely what makes Burrows less valuable) Higgins 2 years also gives Michael Dal Colle some breathing room to enter into the league. Why the Canucks do this 2nd round pick: We get s 2nd round pick for next year. At this point we have no idea if it will be in the low 30s or the high 50s, but a second rounder, is a second rounder. Plus, more importantly, we make room for youth movement. At this point, the roster space is our most valuable commodity. We need to get our young guys in the lineup so they can develop on the NHL level. We more need to make space than need the draft pick, but an extra second would go a long way next season's draft, and hopefully get everyone to forget about not having one this year. Move number 3: Sign Mike Santorelli. 3 years 2.5 million. (That's Chris Higgins/Jannik Hansen money. Really fair for both sides) Santorelli: Mike Santorelli would give this team incredibly depth for modest money. He's a player that can play LW, C, or RW, as well as anywhere from 4th line to 2nd. As we've seen, he is a pretty easy player to play with, finding chemistry in nearly every role he played, including his short stint with the Sedins. Upon signing, he would also be one of our top 2 face-off takers. Right now our only good face-off man is Bo, and then after him, Henrik, and then Bonino. All three of them are lefties,a and only 1 is above 50%. Santorelli gives another face-off option other than Bo who also happens to be right handed, adding diversity to our center group. We also know for a fact that Santorelli wants to come back home and play, and the one season he did come back home to play, he was one of our top players. Plus, his unfortunate stint in Nashville may allow us to get him at a slightly lower price. WD loves rolling 4 lines, and Santorelli allows him to do that cheaply and gives us that major kind of depth. Santorelli gets the same deal as before. Bottom 6 minutes, and it's up to him to move on up. I doubt Santo would decline that opportunity to come back home. (Conditional move): Sign Cody Franson Franson: If you don't like the defense with two rookies at once I understand. The most clear way to improve the team would be to sign a guy like Cody Franson from free agency. If we move Bieksa, we could most likely afford Franson and be able to stay under cap, still the price will be significant as opposed to a Mike Santorelli. If so however, either Ryan Stanton or Frank Corrado would have to be traded, as the other would take the 7th dman spot. as he would likely play with Hamhuis. Call up: Baesrtschi,Grenier, Clendening, Corrado, and Markstrom. That's a lot of young talent, but they are all finally ready for their NHL posh according to Benning. I think they can all find important roles that they can grow into. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the Canucks going into next season. Sedin Sedin Kassian: good first line, Kassian adds size and skill to Sedins. Baertschi Horvat Vrbata: This line reminds me of Gaudreau-Monohan-Hudler. As a second line? yes please Burrows Bonino Dorsett: I personally think this could be the best two way third line in hockey. Kenins Santorelli Hansen: I think this could possibly be the best, fastest, most skilled 4th checking line also (Vey, Grenier): Vey provides depth for first fallen center, and Grenier for first fallen winger. Quality depth Edler Tanev: Our top pairing last year. Both guys played well together against top lines. Hamhuis Clendening (Franson?): Second pairing with very reliable defense as well as high offensive ceiling Sbisa Corrado: Much like our bottom 6, this is a strong 3rd pairing. I like them at this role. Not too much (Stanton): Mr underrated, Stanton has shown he can play bottom pairing left or right side. Miller: All star goalie for this season, and maybe the next. Markstrom: Backup for 2 years. He's N=next goalie in line longterm after Miller leaves. Some notes The Sedin line finally has some protection in Zack Kassian, who I believe is finally good enough to get his time with them out of the gate. We've been waiting for this line to shine, and I think it's finally time. I still think the Sedins are 70 point players, and Kassian is finally coming along. Honestly, if he could put up 40+ points playing with them, while being a physical threat, that would be a huge win. Our second line is really the most risky of the lines. We know Vrbata is top 6 capable, but Baertschi is still a rookie and Horvat is a second year player. Still, after looking eat guys like Sean Monanhan, I have little concern Horvat can pick up the extra weight load. And if you even look at the flames again, Baertschi is similar to Gaudreau in his ability to be small but effective. If they click, we could finally have a second line with the offensive ability to take a load of the Sedins. Finally, we would have a top 6 worthy of fear. It's a great 1-2 punch. Burrows Bonino and Dorsett act as one of the best third lines in the league. That line is capable of shutting down top lines easily while producing depth offense. The big knocks on burrows and Bonino are that they are 2nd/3rd line tweeners. Well put them on the third with Dorsett and all of a sudden you have one of the best third lines in the league. Burrows and Dorsett can be absolute pests to the opposition, and all three of them can defend while chipping in a fair amount of offense. The fourth line acts as a second third line. This year one of our best lines was the Kenins-Horvat-Hansen line. There is really no reason to get rid of it, and we really don't have too. With Horvat moving up the lineup, I think Santorelli would be the perfect replacement. Kenins and Hansen have their speedy chemistry already, and one of Santorelli's assets is his ability to hop in and play with anyone. Willie D loves to roll 4 lines, well this lineup undoubtedly gives him the undoubted depth to do so. Edler and Tanev seem to be a stud of a pairing. No need to break them up. Not much to say about them. I think the most underrated ability of Dan Hamhuis is his ability to elevate those around him. You can see this time and time again. Whether it be his time with Bieksa, or last year with Tanev, or even this year with Sbisa and Weber. Whoever plays with him finds a way to play at their top form, or elevate themselves. It's a very underrated skill that isn't talked about much, but it is why he is so valuable as a defensive defensman. Adam Clendening was the AHL first team all defense as a 21 year old. He also has superb offensive skills and instincts. I think if given a couple weeks to Mesh with Hamhuis, rather then getting picked up and thrown into the new system we could see something special. Still, if you're not convinced there are options available like Cody Franson. They will just be expensive options Sbisa and Corrado are both good players. They're good at everything, while not really being excellent at anything; however, the problem really occurs when they're asked to do more than they can handle. They can handle third pairing minutes, and honestly, I think they can excel. Giving them both bottom paring minutes, allows them to find their identity with the team. I'm glad Sbisa has taken it upon himself to be physical forces on the team, but Corrado still needs to find his. Some people may call me crazy, but I see a lot of Kevin Bieksa in Frankie Corrado. He plays a very defensively conscious game predicated on speed and hockey IQ, but isn't' afraid to throw the weight around to defend. He also shows a little PMD ability. Corrado has also been noted to be one of the natural leaders of our prospect group. Add in the similar size, and both of them being late bloomer type of players, and I think Corrado can find his niche when Bieksa is gone. Our depth payers in Stanton, Vey and Grenier, all bring something very unique to the team for when injures occur. Stanton brings reliable defense as well as grit, sometimes the occasional punch. Vey brings offensive skill and versatility at the center position, being able to hop in for whichever center goes down, other than maybe Henrik. And Grenier brings his 6'5 well rounded game to the table, which is always nice when guys go down hurt. I think once given the opportunity, he will impress. \ The youth movement is on people. Adding Clendening, Corrado, and Beartschi goes a long way for a youth movement. 3 rookies (does Clendening count as a rookie anymore?) is definitely significant. And these are high profile rookies. Not Zac Dalpe, Kellan Lain, Jordan Schroeder type of rookies. If you include Markstrom, Horvat, and Kenins, that is 6 rookies/young guys, coming into the team. That's also not including Vey Stanton and Grenier And here is the Canucks prospect Depth Chart Shinkaruk - McCann - Virtanen Gaunce - Cassels - Boeser Blomstrand - Zhukenov - Gaudette Zalewski - Pettit - Jasek Theodore - Brisebois Hutton - Subban Pedan - Neill Demko Some notes The depth at every position would be VERY impressive if we added Theodore, but our forwards would be the strongest. Virtanen will most likely make the team after another year. Shinkaruk, McCann and if we acquire him, Theodore, would also have 1-2 more years to go. As well as Gaunce and Cassels who I think have 2-3 years until they arrive Guys like Zhukenov, Gaudette and Jasek are high risk high reward offensive players, which means 1 should be able to at least somewhat pan out, out of the three. Pettit, Zalewski, and Blomstrand are inversely defensive specialists/stretch two way players. Unlikely they make the team, but good depth to complement. With Theodore added, our defensive corps all of a sudden doesn't look so bad. With Clendening and Corrado graduating that is still a solid group. Theodore leads as the number 1 defensman, Huttona and Subban provide offensive punch, Pedan and Neill offer a 2 way depth punch, and Brisebois is showing he can be versatile. His ceiling is hard to predict however. Demko is also a very good goalie to have in the system with Markstrom graduating. Our top offensive and defensive prospect would be hometown heroes. CDC will go nuts. Potential added picks for next years draft is a + If it were up to me, this is the team I would go into next season with. I think the deals are realistic and the 1 UFA signing is cheap, but a quality one. We use the rest of the money to lock up the players left on the rosters who still need a contract. I would be comfortable walking into opening day with this group. I'm pumped for draft day. Excited to see what Benning does. But if I were GM, these would be my moves. Simple, quick, cheap, and effective at filling the last holes we need for this retool. Thlughts? What do you think? You like the trades/signing/potential lineup for next season? Let's hear them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Your not the GM, so I think it really doesn't matter what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I like #5, but that's about it. I know I'm a minority on this, but I'd rather have Tryamkin than Theodore. Size like that doesn't come around too often. Higgins won't waive for an eastern team, unless the AZ coyotes pull a Atlanta Thrashers, get moved to QC, but still play in the Pacific. Benning already walked away from Santorelli once. We don't need Franson. We need to get our youth up. The only FA d-man I would go for at this point is Sekera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Your not the GM, so I think it really doesn't matter what you think. Shut up. Great post OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirbs11 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The first time i saw him Spell it Grisebois, i thought it was a mistake, The 2nd time makes me even question if you want the sport or follow the team at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 The first time i saw him Spell it Grisebois, i thought it was a mistake, The 2nd time makes me even question if you want the sport or follow the team at all. Sorry my bad.. We just picked up the dude like a week ago… Lol Very unknown prospect, and I misspelled his name… Oh noooo. Your conclusion is I don't watch hockey, or rather the Canucks. Yeah, that's why I'm on a Canucks forum, to not watch the team and talk about it… Yeah, that's logical. Are you 6? A normal rational conclusion would be, oh he misspelled the new kids name. Because that's never happened before. Where have people's manners gone anyway? A simple "btw, it's a B and not a G, would have sufficed." Lol, anyway, you have any substance you like to add or is that it? Please, by all means, I'm all ears. Your not the GM, so I think it really doesn't matter what you think. Good point? I guess? What's the point about talking about the team at all? We're not the GM, coach or President. I got you the jazz97, If you would rather take Tryamkin than Theodore, than this deal is not for you. That's fair, difference of opinion. Still I have to disagree with Santorelli. Benning chose Radim Vrbata over Santorelli. It was pretty clear at free agency that if we couldn't get Iginla, we go for Vrbata, and if we couldn't get Vrbata, we go for Santorelli. Santo gets this is a business and sometimes thats just the way how it works. He still wants to play here, and if Benning sees an opportunity to get a cheap contract out of a quality player, especially a player that has succeeded here before and wants to be here, I don't think he will dismiss it lightly. I also have to disagree about Higgins, he has said in the past he wouldn't mind playing for the Islanders as they are his childhood team, much like Santorelli. Its more of a question of do the Islanders want Higgins, which I think they have value for him. Higgins also has a limited NTC where he can provide a list of up to 5 teams I believe. I think Islanders would be one of those teams. And thank you BearOXHitman. (I love these names) I honestly think this team can compete in the west. I think Adam Clendening is the big piece. If he can be half as productive in the NHL as he was for the Rockford Hogs, he will be an electric PMD. And theres nobody else on our roster who is better suited to help him unlock the PMD prowess than Hamhuis. If Clendening can put up some offensive numbers beside Hamhuis, this to me is as likely a playoff team as we can get, while getting much, much younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Also, when you look at the depth this team has, it's solid in pretty much every area. PP 1 Vrbata---Henrik---Burrows ---Edler---Daniel Vrbata is the sniper, Henrik and Daniel focus on the cycle, Edler plays point, and Burrows is net front presence. I think Daniel can do some damage on the point QBing the PP if needed. Be a Brad Richards, Daniel Afredsson (minus the snapshot), PP 2 Bartschi---Horvat---Kassian ---Hamhuis---Clendening Horvat wins face-offs and provides his offensive punch, Beartschi is a sniper down low, Kassian is a dominant net front presence. Especially if it's againt their second PK group. Clendening QBs the PP, as that is exactly what we brought him in to be, and Hamhuis is the stabilizing defencman. PP 3 Bonino---Santorelli---Hansen ----Corrado---Tanev Santorelli is also better in the dot than Bonino. These three are a versatile group in that all of them can play the role of net front presence, set up man, or sniper, and they can do it well against lesser opponents or tired opponents. Corrado gets limited time to try and develop some of his inner PMD and Tanev is the stabilizing force. Pk 1 Burrows---Santorelli Edler---Tanev Santorelli is great in the dot, and along with Burrows, these guys can be a top PK unit against most teams PP. Hustle to the max. Also sets the tone for the rest of the team.The defensive pairings stay the same. PK 2 Horvat---Hansen Hamhuis---Clendening Horvat is next up due to him also being proficient on the Penalty kill. Along with his old friend Jannik Hansen, this is a very capable second PK unit. Almost as good as the first. PK 3 Bonino---Dorsett Sbisa---Corrado Bonino and Dorsett add the third PK pairing. On PK, I think it's important to have at least 3 pairings as running around defending can be exhausting, especially if you have to kill 4 minutes instead of 2 or a line is already tired. Bonino as a third option is fantastic, and we all know Dorsett wears his heart on his sleeve and can kill penalties. Ronny Kenins can also play the role of extra PKer in case some one of these guys are the ones in the box. If there are some crazy ridiculous circumstances where you need a 4th pairing, the Sedins are a great fit. They can also get the last 10 seconds on a PK to get straight out there on 5 on 5. This team would have serious depth in every aspect except major size and grit. Which is what makes Kassian, Burrows, Dorsett, Hansen, Sbisa, and Corrado. (I honestly think we can start developing Corrado into another version of Bieksa for the future. He has the leadership qualities and the all around defensive skill set, with slight PMD potential, just like Bieksa. Similar size too. I'm not saying starting next season, but over time, I think so for sure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Good proposal. Well thought out. Trymakin stays though. A giant is always better than no giant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Your not the GM, so I think it really doesn't matter what you think. This is the arm chair gm proposal section, you shouldnt be in here then if this isnt hat your looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 First off let me start by saying, I think we have a good team, and a good prospect pool. A few pieces and this team can be in good shape to compete for now as well as the future. Our best course of action would be to generally avoid this year's free agency, especially at the top end, to avoid paying out massive contracts, either by cap hit, NTC, or term or a mix of the three. We still need to address however, our lack of top pairing defencmen in our draft pool, as well as a move to make us better and able to compete next year. Here would be my free agency plan? Move number 1: Trade with Anaheim to Anaheim: Kevin Bieksa, Nicklas Jensen, and Nikita Tryamkin to Vancouver Shea Theodore, 3rd round pick. (most likely late third, in the 90 over range) Move number 2: Trade with New York Islanders To NYI: Chris Higgins To Van: 2nd round pick (3rd round if they won't budge) Move number 3: Sign Mike Santorelli. 3 years 2.5 million. (That's Chris Higgins/Jannik Hansen money. Fair for both sides) (Conditional move): Sign Cody Franson. 4 years 4 million. I think Cody Franson is going to bed paid boatloads of money this summer. i don't think we can afford him. But provided he takes a pay cut to come home, a deal could work. I will just assume no though Call up: Baesrtschi,Grenier, Clendening, Corrado, and Markstrom. Pay them the lowest possible, but getting them NHL exposure is a must. It's really simple, but I think all of these deals are very possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Move number 1: Trade with Anaheim The big one to Anaheim: Kevin Bieksa, Nicklas Jensen, and Nikita Tryamkin to Vancouver Shea Theodore, 3rd/4th round pick. (most likely late third, in the 80 or the 110 range) Why Anaheim does this. Stanley Cup aspirations: Anaheim has a pretty stacked prospect pool. This year they just added Jacob Larsson who they fully expect to be a top 4 defensman if not a top pairing defensman. Now I'm not saying they don't need Shea Theodore as too much depth is never a bad thing, but Anaheim can easily afford to make this move especially if it makes their team better right now. Losing Theodore would suck, but it's not so bad when you have Jacob Larsson coming, and your team is already deep at pretty much every prospect position. Their concern is getting passed the blackhawks next season. Shea Theodore is 2-3 season's from actually being able to help out the Ducks on a significant level. Bieksa: The San Jose deal fell through and from the sound of it, Benning values Bieksa at a mid 2nd rounder+ at least. I think thats fair, and shows he has value. I think Bieksa would fit really well with Anaheim. I don't think I have to go through Bieksas qualities with you guys. Leadership, grit, defensive awareness, hustle, etc. Bieksa is the blue line version of Kesler when it comes to being a workhorse. Why not unite the two? Bieksa along with Kes, makes Anaheim better for next season, and gives their young goalies more defensive help. Maybe that can push them over the top to win the Western Conference title. Jensen: Nicklas Jensen is still a speedy 6'3, 200 pound sniper that can do damage. We all know the story. He has the whole package, but lacks consistently for either his offensive or defensive role. Anaheim just gave up Emerson Etem to the NYR and got speedy Carl Hagelin in return, most likely to play with Speedy Kesler. Jensen gets a new change of scenery which can be the kick in his gear to get his career on track. Also, he provides excellent depth for their cup run in case of injures. Jensen makes their team deeper for a cup run, and can easily be adopted to their core as early as next season. Who knows, maybe after a year or 2, he can become a regular. Tryamkin: When it comes to the left side, especially after this move, I just don't really see a use for Tryamkin in our system. When it comes to Left defense, Ben Hutton is our 2 way offensive prospect, Guilliame Brisebois is our defensive specialist/ potential leader, and Andrey Pedan is our big man physical force. Add Ashton Sautner and I just don't see much value for him to us. To Anaheim though, he is still a 6'7 defensive defensman who could make the league in 3 years or so. He is acts as consolation to losing Shea Theodore. All in all, they receive Bieksa, who reunites with Kes, for their immediate cup run, Nicklas Jensen who provides injury depth during that cup run as well as providing them with a skilled power winger, as Nikita Tryamkin, who is a 19 year old 6'7 defensive defensman who is a couple years away, but shows massive potential. Why Vancouver does this Theodore: We get the blue chip defensive prospect everyone wants. He's a 6'2, 185 pound offensive PMD who shows a full complete game, and he just happens to be from Britsh Columbia. After adding Boeser, the only thing missing in our prospect pool is a number 1 defensman. Theodore is the perfect fit. Apparently Jim Benning was trying to target Jeremy Roy when he was trying to deal Bieksa. Either by drafting him or making another trade. Instead of turning Bieksa into Roy, I don't think Benning would be opposed to paying a little extra to get Theodore. If there was ever a time to get him now would be it. Anaheim is looking to win a cup now and they just drafted a left handed stud 2 way defensman. It's not unreasonable to think they would like to add defensive veteran help, especially if they are still getting 2 big bodied prospects with potential in the deal. I think the deal is fair for both sides. Now I know Theodore is also a left handed prospect, but when you get the chance to get a number 1 stud defensive prospect, you deal with it, whatever handiness. Also to clarify, Brisebois played most of the season switching sides and is adept to both left and right. 3rd round pick: This is just an added fluff piece I gave to give this more balance. If you think that adding a third is too much, ok. It was mostly just to add a little icing on the cake considering were giving up 3 pieces for a prospect who hasn't played a game yet. Move number 2: Trade with New York Islanders The smaller one To NYI: Chris Higgins To Van: 2nd round pick (third if no team budges) Why NYI does this Depth and cap space: NYI, after that awesome season expect more. The fans want more playoff hockey. The NYI will have to find ways to improve their team without giving up too much future. Chris Higgins is the perfect fit. He gets to go back to his hometown and play for the team he grew up idolizing, so you know he would waive his NTC, and NYI gets Chris Higgins: a great 200 foot player that NYI can use in all situations, including penalty kill. He can give great third line minutes, and 2nd line if injuries occur. His simple 200 foot game make him easy to play with in case he has to hop in with Tavares at any time. Chris Higgins: The most important part about Chris Higgins that makes him so valuable is the fact that he has 2 years left on his contract at 2.5 million dollars. The islanders add depth to their playoff team, and don't give up much cap, which still gives them the opportunity to explore free agents. Higgins contract is what makes him so valuable (and inversely what makes Burrows less valuable) Higgins 2 years also gives Michael Dal Colle some breathing room to enter into the league. Why the Canucks do this 2nd round pick: We get s 2nd round pick for next year. At this point we have no idea if it will be in the low 30s or the high 50s, but a second rounder, is a second rounder. Plus, more importantly, we make room for youth movement. At this point, the roster space is our most valuable commodity. We need to get our young guys in the lineup so they can develop on the NHL level. We more need to make space than need the draft pick, but an extra second would go a long way next season's draft, and hopefully get everyone to forget about not having one this year. Move number 3: Sign Mike Santorelli. 3 years 2.5 million. (That's Chris Higgins/Jannik Hansen money. Really fair for both sides) Santorelli: Mike Santorelli would give this team incredibly depth for modest money. He's a player that can play LW, C, or RW, as well as anywhere from 4th line to 2nd. As we've seen, he is a pretty easy player to play with, finding chemistry in nearly every role he played, including his short stint with the Sedins. Upon signing, he would also be one of our top 2 face-off takers. Right now our only good face-off man is Bo, and then after him, Henrik, and then Bonino. All three of them are lefties,a and only 1 is above 50%. Santorelli gives another face-off option other than Bo who also happens to be right handed, adding diversity to our center group. We also know for a fact that Santorelli wants to come back home and play, and the one season he did come back home to play, he was one of our top players. Plus, his unfortunate stint in Nashville may allow us to get him at a slightly lower price. WD loves rolling 4 lines, and Santorelli allows him to do that cheaply and gives us that major kind of depth. Santorelli gets the same deal as before. Bottom 6 minutes, and it's up to him to move on up. I doubt Santo would decline that opportunity to come back home. (Conditional move): Sign Cody Franson Franson: If you don't like the defense with two rookies at once I understand. The most clear way to improve the team would be to sign a guy like Cody Franson from free agency. If we move Bieksa, we could most likely afford Franson and be able to stay under cap, still the price will be significant as opposed to a Mike Santorelli. If so however, either Ryan Stanton or Frank Corrado would have to be traded, as the other would take the 7th dman spot. as he would likely play with Hamhuis. Call up: Baesrtschi,Grenier, Clendening, Corrado, and Markstrom. That's a lot of young talent, but they are all finally ready for their NHL posh according to Benning. I think they can all find important roles that they can grow into. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the Canucks going into next season. Sedin Sedin Kassian: good first line, Kassian adds size and skill to Sedins. Baertschi Horvat Vrbata: This line reminds me of Gaudreau-Monohan-Hudler. As a second line? yes please Burrows Bonino Dorsett: I personally think this could be the best two way third line in hockey. Kenins Santorelli Hansen: I think this could possibly be the best, fastest, most skilled 4th checking line also (Vey, Grenier): Vey provides depth for first fallen center, and Grenier for first fallen winger. Quality depth Edler Tanev: Our top pairing last year. Both guys played well together against top lines. Hamhuis Clendening (Franson?): Second pairing with very reliable defense as well as high offensive ceiling Sbisa Corrado: Much like our bottom 6, this is a strong 3rd pairing. I like them at this role. Not too much (Stanton): Mr underrated, Stanton has shown he can play bottom pairing left or right side. Miller: All star goalie for this season, and maybe the next. Markstrom: Backup for 2 years. He's N=next goalie in line longterm after Miller leaves. Some notes The Sedin line finally has some protection in Zack Kassian, who I believe is finally good enough to get his time with them out of the gate. We've been waiting for this line to shine, and I think it's finally time. I still think the Sedins are 70 point players, and Kassian is finally coming along. Honestly, if he could put up 40+ points playing with them, while being a physical threat, that would be a huge win. Our second line is really the most risky of the lines. We know Vrbata is top 6 capable, but Baertschi is still a rookie and Horvat is a second year player. Still, after looking eat guys like Sean Monanhan, I have little concern Horvat can pick up the extra weight load. And if you even look at the flames again, Baertschi is similar to Gaudreau in his ability to be small but effective. If they click, we could finally have a second line with the offensive ability to take a load of the Sedins. Finally, we would have a top 6 worthy of fear. It's a great 1-2 punch. Burrows Bonino and Dorsett act as one of the best third lines in the league. That line is capable of shutting down top lines easily while producing depth offense. The big knocks on burrows and Bonino are that they are 2nd/3rd line tweeners. Well put them on the third with Dorsett and all of a sudden you have one of the best third lines in the league. Burrows and Dorsett can be absolute pests to the opposition, and all three of them can defend while chipping in a fair amount of offense. The fourth line acts as a second third line. This year one of our best lines was the Kenins-Horvat-Hansen line. There is really no reason to get rid of it, and we really don't have too. With Horvat moving up the lineup, I think Santorelli would be the perfect replacement. Kenins and Hansen have their speedy chemistry already, and one of Santorelli's assets is his ability to hop in and play with anyone. Willie D loves to roll 4 lines, well this lineup undoubtedly gives him the undoubted depth to do so. Edler and Tanev seem to be a stud of a pairing. No need to break them up. Not much to say about them. I think the most underrated ability of Dan Hamhuis is his ability to elevate those around him. You can see this time and time again. Whether it be his time with Bieksa, or last year with Tanev, or even this year with Sbisa and Weber. Whoever plays with him finds a way to play at their top form, or elevate themselves. It's a very underrated skill that isn't talked about much, but it is why he is so valuable as a defensive defensman. Adam Clendening was the AHL first team all defense as a 21 year old. He also has superb offensive skills and instincts. I think if given a couple weeks to Mesh with Hamhuis, rather then getting picked up and thrown into the new system we could see something special. Still, if you're not convinced there are options available like Cody Franson. They will just be expensive options Sbisa and Corrado are both good players. They're good at everything, while not really being excellent at anything; however, the problem really occurs when they're asked to do more than they can handle. They can handle third pairing minutes, and honestly, I think they can excel. Giving them both bottom paring minutes, allows them to find their identity with the team. I'm glad Sbisa has taken it upon himself to be physical forces on the team, but Corrado still needs to find his. Some people may call me crazy, but I see a lot of Kevin Bieksa in Frankie Corrado. He plays a very defensively conscious game predicated on speed and hockey IQ, but isn't' afraid to throw the weight around to defend. He also shows a little PMD ability. Corrado has also been noted to be one of the natural leaders of our prospect group. Add in the similar size, and both of them being late bloomer type of players, and I think Corrado can find his niche when Bieksa is gone. Our depth payers in Stanton, Vey and Grenier, all bring something very unique to the team for when injures occur. Stanton brings reliable defense as well as grit, sometimes the occasional punch. Vey brings offensive skill and versatility at the center position, being able to hop in for whichever center goes down, other than maybe Henrik. And Grenier brings his 6'5 well rounded game to the table, which is always nice when guys go down hurt. I think once given the opportunity, he will impress. \ The youth movement is on people. Adding Clendening, Corrado, and Beartschi goes a long way for a youth movement. 3 rookies (does Clendening count as a rookie anymore?) is definitely significant. And these are high profile rookies. Not Zac Dalpe, Kellan Lain, Jordan Schroeder type of rookies. If you include Markstrom, Horvat, and Kenins, that is 6 rookies/young guys, coming into the team. That's also not including Vey Stanton and Grenier And here is the Canucks prospect Depth Chart Shinkaruk - McCann - Virtanen Gaunce - Cassels - Boeser Blomstrand - Zhukenov - Gaudette Zalewski - Pettit - Jasek Theodore - Brisebois Hutton - Subban Pedan - Neill Demko Some notes The depth at every position would be VERY impressive if we added Theodore, but our forwards would be the strongest. Virtanen will most likely make the team after another year. Shinkaruk, McCann and if we acquire him, Theodore, would also have 1-2 more years to go. As well as Gaunce and Cassels who I think have 2-3 years until they arrive Guys like Zhukenov, Gaudette and Jasek are high risk high reward offensive players, which means 1 should be able to at least somewhat pan out, out of the three. Pettit, Zalewski, and Blomstrand are inversely defensive specialists/stretch two way players. Unlikely they make the team, but good depth to complement. With Theodore added, our defensive corps all of a sudden doesn't look so bad. With Clendening and Corrado graduating that is still a solid group. Theodore leads as the number 1 defensman, Huttona and Subban provide offensive punch, Pedan and Neill offer a 2 way depth punch, and Brisebois is showing he can be versatile. His ceiling is hard to predict however. Demko is also a very good goalie to have in the system with Markstrom graduating. Our top offensive and defensive prospect would be hometown heroes. CDC will go nuts. Potential added picks for next years draft is a + If it were up to me, this is the team I would go into next season with. I think the deals are realistic and the 1 UFA signing is cheap, but a quality one. We use the rest of the money to lock up the players left on the rosters who still need a contract. I would be comfortable walking into opening day with this group. I'm pumped for draft day. Excited to see what Benning does. But if I were GM, these would be my moves. Simple, quick, cheap, and effective at filling the last holes we need for this retool. Thlughts? What do you think? You like the trades/signing/potential lineup for next season? Let's hear them. Nice proposal especially in light of recent events Realistically looking like this: Sedin-Sedin-Kassian Baertschi-Bonino/Horvat-Vrbata Hansen-Horvat/Bonino-Burrows Dorsett-Vey-Kenins Grenier Edler-Tanev Hamuis-Franson Sbisa-Corrado Clendening Miller Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Nice proposal especially in light of recent events Realistically looking like this: Sedin-Sedin-Kassian Baertschi-Bonino/Horvat-Vrbata Hansen-Horvat/Bonino-Burrows Dorsett-Vey-Kenins Grenier Edler-Tanev Hamuis-Franson Sbisa-Corrado Clendening Miller Markstrom Thank you. I think it's safe to say, the theodore trade isn't happening. Still however, I think Mike Santorelli should be the first free agent looked at and picked up. He's a perfect fit in too many ways, and he's almost guaranteed to be cheap in a free agency where top guys are bound to be overpaid. Franson could also be a plus, but he's one of those guys who will get overpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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