DonLever Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 From CNN: Washington (CNN)The United States on Friday allowed a UN Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlement construction to be adopted, defying extraordinary pressure from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government in alliance with President-elect Donald Trump. The Security Council approved the resolution with 14 votes, with the US abstaining. There was applause in the chamber following the vote, which represented perhaps the final bitter chapter in the years of antagonism between President Barack Obama's administration and Netanyahu's government. In an intense flurry of diplomacy that unfolded in the two days before the vote, a senior Israeli official had accused the United States of abandoning the Jewish state with its refusal to block the resolution with a veto. Trump had also inserted himself in the diplomatic drama, in defiance of the convention that the United States has only one president at a time, by calling on the Obama administration to wield its Security Council veto. Israel's UN ambassador, Danny Danon, reacted angrily to the vote and issued a sharp parting shot at the Obama administration's role. "It was to be expected that Israel's greatest ally would act in accordance with the values that we share and that they would have vetoed this disgraceful resolution. I have no doubt that the new US administration and the incoming UN Secretary General will usher in a new era in terms of the UN's relationship with Israel," he said. In a statement, Netanyahu's office accused the Obama administration of "colluding" with the UN and said it looked forward to working with Trump, as well as Israel-friendly members of Congress, "to negate the harmful effects of this absurd resolution." The US ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, raised her hand to abstain in the chamber when the resolution was put to a vote. Power argued after the vote that opposing settlement expansion was consistent with the bipartisan consensus accepted by every single US president of both parties since Ronald Reagan, in comments that could be seen as a criticism of Trump's position. "This resolution reflects trends that will permanent destroy the two state solution if they continue on their current course," Power said in a speech before the chamber. "Our vote today does not in any way diminish the United States' steadfast and unparalleled commitment to the security of Israel," Power said. The Palestinians were delighted by their rare diplomatic coup. "This is a victory for the people and for the cause, and it opens doors wide for the demand of sanctions on settlements," said Mustafa Barghouti, a Palestinian leader. "This is a bias towards justice and international law." But Trump -- who has vowed to move the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and has nominated an ambassador in David Friedman who is supportive of settlers -- pledged that the Palestinians would no longer have a platform at the UN when he is inaugurated next month. "As to the U.N., things will be different after Jan. 20th," Trump wrote on Twitter. The United States and most other nations consider Israeli settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem as an obstacle to the hopes of a two-state solution between Israelis and Palestinians. The Obama administration, which mounted two failed efforts to broker Middle East peace, became increasingly angry about continued Israeli settlement expansion over its eight years in the White House. The Palestinians accuse Israel of trying to establish facts on the ground by building on land they view as part of their future state. "Today, the United States acted with one primary objective in mind: to preserve the possibility of the two state solution, which every US administration for decades has agreed is the only way to achieve a just and lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians," Secretary of State John Kerry said in a statement, adding that the US does not "agree with every aspect" of the resolution. He added: "We cannot in good conscience stand in the way of a resolution at the United Nations that makes clear that both sides must act now to preserve the possibility of peace." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 MSM supports Israel. Trump supports Israel. Just saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hugor Hill said: MSM supports Israel. Trump supports Israel. Just saying.... so are you suggesting that we all should just ignore palestine and the prospect of a 2 state solution? and just do as israel wishes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, coastal.view said: so are you suggesting that we all should just ignore palestine and the prospect of a 2 state solution? and just do as israel wishes ? I'm saying the opposite. I'm also saying Trump and his supporters are hypocrites. My bad. I should've made myself clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hugor Hill said: I'm saying the opposite. I'm also saying Trump and his supporters are hypocrites. My bad. I should've made myself clear. i appreciate the clarification and find i now agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 The unique relationship between the US and Israel has existed since the creation of the State of Israel. The bond is so strong you can call the state of Israel the 51st state of the United States. So we saw during the election, the candidates of both US parties fell over themselves expressing their level of support for Israel. Each candidate accuse each other soft on their level of support for Israel. Both the Democrats and Republicans are strong supporters of Israel. Only in America do you see such undying devotion to Israel. Now we come to Obama. It is well known that Obama does not get along with Netanyahu. And this is further proof it. BUT, Obama in 8 years has done NOTHING to stop Israel expansion in the West Bank. So what does it matter if the US now abstains against a UN vote against illegal settlements. It is quite meaningless now to abstain in such late stages of Obama's presidency. Nothing really has change, money and military aid continue to pour in to Israel from the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 51 minutes ago, coastal.view said: so are you suggesting that we all should just ignore palestine and the prospect of a 2 state solution? and just do as israel wishes ? Why don't the Israelis and the Palestinians have one country, where they share everything, kind of like the old Lower/Upper Canada idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 um.. well in canada the different groups mostly get along given similar history and the fact the country was settled by the different groups around the same time they sorta grew up together in peace israel and palestine not so much 1000s of years of not getting along - filled with wars and conflict kiss and make up type of solution is not very real alf you must think everyone involved in these difficult negotiations are a tad stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 13 hours ago, DonLever said: The unique relationship between the US and Israel has existed since the creation of the State of Israel. The bond is so strong you can call the state of Israel the 51st state of the United States. So we saw during the election, the candidates of both US parties fell over themselves expressing their level of support for Israel. Each candidate accuse each other soft on their level of support for Israel. Both the Democrats and Republicans are strong supporters of Israel. Only in America do you see such undying devotion to Israel. Now we come to Obama. It is well known that Obama does not get along with Netanyahu. And this is further proof it. BUT, Obama in 8 years has done NOTHING to stop Israel expansion in the West Bank. So what does it matter if the US now abstains against a UN vote against illegal settlements. It is quite meaningless now to abstain in such late stages of Obama's presidency. Nothing really has change, money and military aid continue to pour in to Israel from the US. All the sudden, MSM is not own by Clinton and Obama. All the sudden, Trump supporters support MSM. All the sudden, Trump supporters support the Jewish state and rail against Obama for not supporting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I don't get why Israel is so important. People bend over backwards to help them or they hate them. Am I the only one who just doesn't care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 19 minutes ago, inane said: I don't get why Israel is so important. People bend over backwards to help them or they hate them. Am I the only one who just doesn't care? Wealthy Jewish political, business and media support in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Hugor Hill said: All the sudden, MSM is not own by Clinton and Obama. All the sudden, Trump supporters support MSM. All the sudden, Trump supporters support the Jewish state and rail against Obama for not supporting them. Give it up already. Have you moved to Sweden yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 31 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Give it up already. Have you moved to Sweden yet? I'm flattered of the attention I get. Does Clinton own MSM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hugor Hill said: I'm flattered of the attention I get. Does Clinton own MSM? Omg the msm supports the jews, what a conspiracy...give it a rest your girl lost.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Just now, Ryan Strome said: Omg the msm supports the jews, what a conspiracy...give it a rest your girl lost.. I always assume that tomorrow will be the last day of Trump's presidency so as far as I'm concern 'the future is wide open', like what Tom Petty says. So does Clinton own MSM like you trumpets said she does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 On 2016-12-23 at 6:43 PM, Alflives said: Why don't the Israelis and the Palestinians have one country, where they share everything, kind of like the old Lower/Upper Canada idea? or maybe more like Ukraine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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