Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Also, the fact that there's a Mafia-aligned watcher makes it possible that they also had a Mafia-aligned fruit vendor. I say this with the confidence of a man who has never played in a game with a fruit vendor before. Link to comment
Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Final Round 1 Vote Count: Qwags (4) - Lewitelli, Boknows, Time Lord, Aladeen Snake Doctor (3) - Beluga Whale, Ilunga, Alchemy Time Naslund.is.King (2) - J23, luckylager Intoews (2) - Jazz, Zfetch Time Lord (1) - Tanev Aladeen (1) - Ilduce Beluga Whale (1) - Snake Doctor Master Radishes (1) - Shiznak Sharpshooter (1) - NIK Extend (3) - Where's Wellwood, Intoews, Master Radishes No Vote (5) - Qwags, Falcon, Porscha, SS, Coconuts Final Round 2 Vote Count: J23 (5) - luckylager, ilunga, Alchemy Time, Ilduce39, Aladeen Naslund.is.King (5) - Boknows, Where's Wellwood, Time Lord, Intoews, Zfetch Snake Doctor (2) - Master Radishes, Tanev Alchemy Time (2) - J23, Jazz Aladeen (1) - Naslund.is.King Lewitelli (1) - Sharpshooter Luckylager (1) - Snake Doctor Master Radishes (1) - Shiznak No Votes (3) - Falcon, Lewitelli, Porscha We have a tie vote! J23 and Naslund is King will be up for Lynch A if they survive nightfall. Final Round 3 Vote Count: Boknows (6) - Ilunga, Tanev, Time Lord, Aladeen, luckylager, ilduce39 ilduce39 (3) - Master Radishes, J23, Zfetch Luckylager (2) - Snake Doctor, Intoews Alchemy Time (1) - Jazz Ilunga (1) - Boknows Tanev (1) - Alchemy Time No Votes (5) - AngryElf, shiznak, Where's Wellwood, DarthMelvin, Sharpshooter, Final Round 4 Vote Count: Master Radishes (8) - Shiznak, Snake Doctor, Aladeen, Zfetch, luckylager, ilunga, Where's Wellwood, Ilduce39 Shiznak (3) - Time Lord, Intoews, Alchemy Time J23 (1) - Jazz AngryElf (1) - Angry Elf Aladeen (1) - Master Radishes No Votes (2): DarthMelvin, J23 Round 5 Vote Count: Shiznak (6) - Aladeen, Where's Wellwood, Alchemy Time, Zfetch, Intoews, AngryElf Where's Wellwood (2) - luckylager, Zfetch J23 (2) - ilunga, Shiznak Ilunga (1) - Snake Doctor No Votes (3) - ilduce39, J23 Round 6 Vote Count: Aladeen (5) - Intoews, Snake Doctor, Alchemy Time, luckylager, AngryElf Luckylager (2) - Snake Doctor, Aladeen Where's Wellwood (1) - Ilunga No Votes (1) - Ilduce - I need to take a look at N2 again. Logically, it makes sense that anyone who jumped on the NIK bandwagon towards the end would be town (and the flips confirm that), so I want to see when WW got on. If he voted NIK early in the round then it's NAI, but if he jumped on with the rest of us, it's a little more interesting. - Also need to look through the ISOs of SS, jazz, and Aladeen again and see if I missed anything interesting. Link to comment
Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 The fact that Aladeen pushed so hard to be vigged instead of lynched, knowing that ilduce wouldn't get his kill off, gives WW a bit of town cred IMO. It's possible Aladeen and/or the remaining scum felt they were better off if Aladeen were the one to survive out of the two, but does Aladeen's survival matter as much in that scenario? Does he push that hard? Link to comment
luckylager Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Intoewsables said: Do you get a notification about being roleblocked? Did you save ilduce the last two rounds? I put the save on duke last two rounds, but I think I f**ked up because I may not have been able to use it on the same person in consecutive rounds. To avoid directly quoting the host - blah blah blah and can save yourself, but not in consecutive rounds. So it's that or I was RB'd again. I didn't bother to ask because I don't think it matters at this point. Link to comment
Alchemy Time Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, Intoewsables said: The fact that Aladeen pushed so hard to be vigged instead of lynched, knowing that ilduce wouldn't get his kill off, gives WW a bit of town cred IMO. It's possible Aladeen and/or the remaining scum felt they were better off if Aladeen were the one to survive out of the two, but does Aladeen's survival matter as much in that scenario? Does he push that hard? I think he was trying to pull a tie Link to comment
AngryElf Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/25/2023 at 6:59 PM, Zfetch said: wow brutal...did not review that,,, see below instead: UPDATED FETCH LIST Confirmed Town: SD Toews Suspected TP: Lucky Ilunga Confirmed 3P: AE Remainder: WW AT It'd be very ballsy and risky for a powerwolfing LL to say he saved Duce when he could've just as easily said Toews or SD. I think he's much more likely to be town for that alone and if not, then holy shit you've pocketed everyone. I think what I said last night still stands, with WW and AT likely being scum-scum, and if we keep going then Ilunga is the next safest bet, however we do need to look at SD and Toews again at that point. I still don't understand the alleged Fruitboy role or what the shrubbery does. Can I have some clarification? Link to comment
Alchemy Time Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 it did nothing to me, at this point it seems to be more of a chaos thing, still minor possibility a alternate wincon or roleblocking thing Link to comment
Alchemy Time Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I'm still confused about the 3hg, is it possible it's a 3rd party that shows up TP on investigation? Link to comment
Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, luckylager said: I put the save on duke last two rounds, but I think I f**ked up because I may not have been able to use it on the same person in consecutive rounds. To avoid directly quoting the host - blah blah blah and can save yourself, but not in consecutive rounds. So it's that or I was RB'd again. I didn't bother to ask because I don't think it matters at this point. Man, you're really not helping with my paranoia here. Link to comment
Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 But yeah, if lucky is deepwolfing then I'm more annoyed at BJ for not including a (town-aligned) doctor in a role madness game and in awe of lucky's luck (lol) at fake claiming the one realistic role that didn't exist in the game. Link to comment
luckylager Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Intoewsables said: Man, you're really not helping with my paranoia here. Sorry I guess. It's not like I have a crystal ball and know who maf are targeting on any given night. But seriously, not only have I hard claimed doc to no CC, in a role heavy game, I scum hunted SS D2, was the first player to sus Jazz - d2 or 3, and started tunneling / questioning, voting deen before it was cool. Not sure what else I could possibly do to prove town over any of these other players. Link to comment
Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 59 minutes ago, AngryElf said: I still don't understand the alleged Fruitboy role or what the shrubbery does. Can I have some clarification? The fruit does nothing. The action of sending the fruit is an action that a watcher or tracker can observe to confirm that the fruit vendor has a role. Unless I'm missing something, the role seems mostly useless. 1 Link to comment
Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Vote Where's Wellwood Link to comment
luckylager Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Intoewsables said: The fruit does nothing. The action of sending the fruit is an action that a watcher or tracker can observe to confirm that the fruit vendor has a role. Unless I'm missing something, the role seems mostly useless. I received the shrubbery last night. Thanks for NOTHING illunga Link to comment
Intoewsables Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Aladeen flipping as mafia watcher makes me think Ilunga is town-aligned. The fruit vendor might exist to throw the mafia watcher off of the trail of specials. Link to comment
Where's Wellwood Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Intoewsables said: Who do you think are the final scum? If there is lackey then any of the confirmed TP could be which makes the POE too big. So I've gotta say AT with a chance that the shrubbery role is mafia aligned. 8 hours ago, AngryElf said: Alright, going back to Duce’s list it looks like our PoE is WW, AT, Ilunga, with an outside shot at LL. If BJ wanted a 1/4 scum team then thered be six mafiosos, which I imagine is the case. That makes this a LYLO. WW seems to be basically confirmed scum at this point, no? Is there any reason why it would be LL, AT, Ilunga left? Vote WW Is there any reason why it couldn't be AT and or ilunga? I'm not confirmed at all 1 hour ago, AngryElf said: UPDATED FETCH LIST Confirmed Town: SD Toews Suspected TP: Lucky Ilunga Confirmed 3P: AE Remainder: WW AT It'd be very ballsy and risky for a powerwolfing LL to say he saved Duce when he could've just as easily said Toews or SD. I think he's much more likely to be town for that alone and if not, then holy shit you've pocketed everyone. I think what I said last night still stands, with WW and AT likely being scum-scum, and if we keep going then Ilunga is the next safest bet, however we do need to look at SD and Toews again at that point. I still don't understand the alleged Fruitboy role or what the shrubbery does. Can I have some clarification? saving Toews or SD would be poor decisions because they don't have ability like the vig and aren't likely to be targeted by the Mafia anyway, at least not with the vig still around. Link to comment
Where's Wellwood Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, luckylager said: I put the save on duke last two rounds, but I think I f**ked up because I may not have been able to use it on the same person in consecutive rounds. To avoid directly quoting the host - blah blah blah and can save yourself, but not in consecutive rounds. So it's that or I was RB'd again. I didn't bother to ask because I don't think it matters at this point. How could it not matter? If for example, you couldn't save the same player twice in a row that might hint there was no role blocker last night. Why wouldn't the TP doctor know their role inside and out or seek clarification as soon as possible? Link to comment
Where's Wellwood Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, luckylager said: I received the shrubbery last night. Thanks for NOTHING illunga I can't shake the feeling that LL is deepwolfing. Nobody has been successfully saved even once. Your only evidence of doctor is that no one counter claimed but it's possible in a game with a forum closure deadline that BJ didn't put in a doctor. Link to comment
luckylager Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said: How could it not matter? If for example, you couldn't save the same player twice in a row that might hint there was no role blocker last night. Why wouldn't the TP doctor know their role inside and out or seek clarification as soon as possible? Because I don't really care. I can't bring the vig back to life and the roleblocker is still at large. I'll be sure to ask bj if I need to use my save on the save player twice in a row again. Special for you, Mr. RB Link to comment
Where's Wellwood Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, luckylager said: Sorry I guess. It's not like I have a crystal ball and know who maf are targeting on any given night. But seriously, not only have I hard claimed doc to no CC, in a role heavy game, I scum hunted SS D2, was the first player to sus Jazz - d2 or 3, and started tunneling / questioning, voting deen before it was cool. Not sure what else I could possibly do to prove town over any of these other players. What's your role knight name? Link to comment
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