Mafia: The Holy Grail (Game Over - SK Wins!)

[AngryElf]

Just now, AngryElf said:

If you’ve had such a stellar TP Doc game of scumhunting, give one good reason the mafia never tried to hit you, and tell us BJ’s reasoning for why saving duce didn’t keep him alive. 

I assume by now you’ve gotten clarification on your role’s rules?

[AngryElf]

I won’t vote AT tonight, only Ilunga or Lager. 

[luckylager]

4 minutes ago, AngryElf said:

If you’ve had such a stellar TP Doc game of scumhunting, give one good reason the mafia never tried to hit you, and tell us BJ’s reasoning for why saving duce didn’t keep him alive. 

Maf never hit me because I'm not confirmed / sheriff checked and there were other less risky targets. 

 

I asked BJ yesterday when placing my save, and he confirmed I was blocked on my 2nd duce save. I can place saves on the same player in consecutive nights, just not on myself.

 

Remember, there is definitely a role blocker, confirmed by Zfetch.

 

Doc dodging is a commonly used phrase for a reason.

 

Use your head. If you vote Illunga the roleblocker lives. There's no way BJ made the same player shrubbery guy and role blocker.

 

Name one thing I've done that points to scum. Paranoid fool

[luckylager]

9 minutes ago, AngryElf said:

I won’t vote AT tonight, only Ilunga or Lager. 

Then we've already lost. 

You've clearly decided you'd vote me over AT in F3 despite being a hard claimed doc.

 

Worst play ever. 

[luckylager]

Pack it up. Doc doesn't come with a psychic power so I must be lying.

 

Good rationale you f**king tool

[Intoewsables]

vote Ilunga

 

I've lost my appetite for big braining it here. Also I don't really care about the RB anymore.

[luckylager]

7 minutes ago, Intoewsables said:

vote Ilunga

 

I've lost my appetite for big braining it here. Also I don't really care about the RB anymore.

Ouch. Then I go to F3 with ae, who has already decided that he actually thinks AT is town, and I'm mafia. 

 

Think about this. No doc in role madness? 

I'm crazy enough to claim doc for what reason when I did?

 

I sure as f**k was not being voted.

 

Like why would I claim after NF with my save on TL, only to be blocked and TL show up dead?

 

Why would I make a play that casts doubt on my own fake claim if I was mafia?

 

Sad days. Sad sad days

[luckylager]

I mean there's always the possibility angel steals the wincon, and if that's the case - I apologize to AE, you're not a f**king idiot, well played.

[Intoewsables]

6 minutes ago, luckylager said:

Ouch. Then I go to F3 with ae, who has already decided that he actually thinks AT is town, and I'm mafia. 

 

Think about this. No doc in role madness? 

I'm crazy enough to claim doc for what reason when I did?

 

I sure as f**k was not being voted.

 

Like why would I claim after NF with my save on TL, only to be blocked and TL show up dead?

 

Why would I make a play that casts doubt on my own fake claim if I was mafia?

 

Sad days. Sad sad days

It's really not that clear cut.

 

We have no way of knowing AE's role mechanics and how many self saves he actually gets. One? Two? Zero? Who knows? What if his wincon is to make it to F3? Again, who knows?

 

The optimal play for the scum is to RB + MK AE and avoid any f**kery in F3. If they do that, it really makes no difference to us.

 

All non-scum need to come to an agreement here, and AE says he's not voting AT. One of you needs to change your mind or we're hooped anyway.

[luckylager]

Just now, Intoewsables said:

It's really not that clear cut.

 

We have no way of knowing AE's role mechanics and how many self saves he actually gets. One? Two? Zero? Who knows? What if his wincon is to make it to F3? Again, who knows?

 

The optimal play for the scum is to RB + MK AE and avoid any f**kery in F3. If they do that, it really makes no difference to us.

 

All non-scum need to come to an agreement here, and AE says he's not voting AT. One of you needs to change your mind or we're hooped anyway.

I suppose. I just have a hard time seeing Illuga's role as being two pronged. Where is simultaneously roll blocker and fruit guy.

[Intoewsables]

I hope I don't regret saying that out loud lol

[luckylager]

*role

[luckylager]

But ok Toews, I didn't really think about that..

 

Unvote, vote illunga

[Alchemy Time]

Unvote vote illunga

[AngryElf]

Wait, didn’t Fetch say something about LL not visiting the person he said he saved?

[Intoewsables]

1 minute ago, AngryElf said:

Wait, didn’t Fetch say something about LL not visiting the person he said he saved?

Did he? I feel like Z would've made a much bigger stink about that.

[Intoewsables]

Or he did and I missed it

[Intoewsables]

13 minutes ago, AngryElf said:

Wait, didn’t Fetch say something about LL not visiting the person he said he saved?

This was the time LL got roleblocked. Assuming that's true, it checks out that Zfetch wouldn't see it because it never actually happened.

[Alchemy Time]

1 hour ago, Intoewsables said:

The optimal play for the scum is to RB + MK AE and avoid any f**kery in F3. If they do that, it really makes no difference to us.

Wait if we do this illunga vote and you're right and we sacrifice AE he loses his chance to win with us, and we're just back to you deciding between me and LL. We don't gain anything.

 

I don't want to lose, but it's f**ked up to basically make AE lose here. I at this point trust that he's been telling the truth.

[Alchemy Time]

Is there any way we can avoid that?