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Angry Nhl Clubs Ganging Up On Hnic, Cbc

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Sorry if there's a thread on this already, just found it quite interesting and thought I'd share.

Last Saturday on Hockey Night In Canada, Don Cherry claimed that Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke had gone behind his back to his CBC bosses to have the Coach's Corner star fired.

In fact, Toronto was only one of several Canadian franchises to criticize the overall performance of HNIC – including Cherry and sidekick Ron MacLean – during an NHL board of governors meeting in Ottawa at the all-star game, The Globe and Mail has learned.

Following CBC's annual presentation to the NHL board in Ottawa, Burke delivered a blistering critique of the program's treatment of him and then-coach Ron Wilson. Other Canadian teams, including the Vancouver Canucks and Ottawa Senators, blasted the network for the Toronto-centric nature of the program and complained about deteriorating journalistic standards.

However, participants of the meeting reported that no one asked for Cherry to be fired, and that Cherry is only one bone of contention with CBC. “I didn't comment at all on [Ron] MacLean or Cherry,” Ottawa owner Eugene Melnyk told The Globe. “My issue dealt with the number of games shown on HNIC that are not Sens games and my concern about how skewed they are to another team that you can easily deduce. ... I wasn't given any concrete response.”

“It got a little warm in there,” says Edmonton Oilers president Patrick LaForge. “If NHL realignment was a 3 on the Richter emotional scale, this was a 5. Having said that, it's not abnormal for our meetings to get that way. I just didn't think it was the right format for that discussion.”

Sources say the CBC's vice-president of English services, Kirstine Stewart, and Jeffrey Orridge, executive director of sports properties, were blindsided by the vitriol they encountered after making a pitch to keep the public broadcaster as the NHL's partner in Canada. The CBC's contract with the league expires after the 2012-13 season.

The confrontation ended when the Canadian teams decided the issue should be discussed away from the larger group of governors. The CBC executives pledged to get back to the clubs on the substance of the issues raised at the meeting.

Burke and Orridge evidently met in the days following the showdown. That meeting may have led to Cherry's complaint last Saturday that Burke didn't come directly to him with his complaints, preferring to talk to the people who employ Cherry at CBC.

Orridge cancelled an interview with The Globe on Friday afternoon. Neither Stewart nor Orridge responded on Friday to requests for comment on this story.

“Kirstine and Jeffrey were invited by [commissioner] Gary Bettman to give an update to the NHL's board of governors on activity CBC has been partnering with the league on, including ... Hockey Day in Canada,” spokesman Chuck Thompson said. “With respect to Coach's Corner, only one team had anything to say about Don Cherry.”

Since The Globe first revealed that the league's discontent with HNIC may affect CBC's ability to preserve its NHL rights, new details have come to light about the breadth of opposition from the Canadian clubs. LaForge said that the teams want a “higher level of partnership” with CBC.

“The Canadian teams have a good history on the network,” LaForge said in a phone interview. “It has benefited both of us. This is the No. 1 TV show in Canada every year. And often the No. 3-4-5-6 most popular show in Canada. Both sides want to make it better partnership. We need to discuss how to go forward.”

According to sources, Toronto led the question session with CBC by raising the topic of the treatment Burke and Wilson had received from Coach's Corner. According to a source at the meeting, Burke said he was tired of being attacked and questioned every week.

Three of the seven teams in Canada said that HNIC was mainly concerned with Toronto and very little about other Canadian clubs. Calgary had no representatives at the meeting, though president Ken King said Friday that the Flames care “no more or less” about the issues than the other teams.

The pushback from the Canadian teams comes at the same time as the league itself has reportedly become annoyed by the editorial direction of the show, which is dominated by MacLean and Cherry. While league executives would not discuss the matter publicly, it is known that the NHL wants the program to focus more on players and teams. Some say Coach's Corner has become more about Ron and Don than hockey, and when they are discussing the game, too often it regards archaic issues of honour and politics rather than the play on the ice.

It hasn't been an easy season for the 78-year-old Cherry. Contrary to his long-standing claim of bringing viewers to HNIC, ratings obtained by The Globe in midseason showed that audiences were dropping in the range of 600,000 to 1 million viewers during the first intermission, when Coach's Corner comes on. While CBC has continued to produce films about the former NHL coach, it has also had to field criticism of Cherry calling former players speaking out on drugs and depression as “pukes.”

http://www.theglobea...content=2365289

It's nice to know that other teams are noticing the bias aswell. :lol:

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oh boy. Burke and Gillis fighting the same fight. CBC is gonna get its ass kicked.

Good riddance, Ron MacLean. You scumbag.

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A prelude to the CBC inevitably losing it's NHL contract.

But is TSN any better?

TOML

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Please tell me Ron is finally getting pulled of air and we wont be force fed the Leafs hockey as much.

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Don Cherry is awesome, if his views offend you, ignore it, seriously its not like it affects you...

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Ron and Don are the best.....if you don't like,don't watch!

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It hasn't been an easy season for the 78-year-old Cherry. Contrary to his long-standing claim of bringing viewers to HNIC, ratings obtained by The Globe in midseason showed that audiences were dropping in the range of 600,000 to 1 million viewers during the first intermission, when Coach's Corner comes on.

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I hope Don and Ronnie don't leave. I find them very entertaining (their rants are funny).

Ronnie's hate on Burrows is hilarious. I laugh every time he praises Alex haha

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I used to find Ron and Don's stupidity entertaining, now i just change the station. I don't think I've watched 1 coaches corner all season and don't plan on starting again cause Ron is a bitter sidekick trying to get his glory and Don has lost all touch with reality.

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I don't like them, but they are classics, and that's the problem.

Actually, I just thought of an idea. Why don't they join LeafsTV if they are going to be bias?

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meh.........

I tune in for the hockey

I tune out the commentators............I all out ignore pre-game, post-game, intermission chatter with the exception of Hotstove once in a while

My only complaint is Ott/Mtl games are blacked out on Centre Ice for the Leaf bias. Tonight I would much rather watch Ott/Buf than Tor/Phi but won't be able to.

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My only complaint is Ott/Mtl games are blacked out on Centre Ice for the Leaf bias. Tonight I would much rather watch Ott/Buf than Tor/Phi but won't be able to.

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Ron and Don are the best.....if you don't like,don't watch!

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I don't like them, but they are classics, and that's the problem.

Actually, I just thought of an idea. Why don't they join LeafsTV if they are going to be bias?

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HNIC needs to go to TSN. Problem solved. TSN is better in every possible category. Bring in Jimmy Houghson and call it a day.

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Don Cherry is an icon but some of us watch that show not to have to hear about his personal vendettas and barbaric views. We want unbiased opinions about what is going on in the NHL. No one better to provide that view than Bob McKenzie IMO

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The dynamic between clubs and the press has changed dramatically over the last 50 years.

In times gone by a hockey reporter used to be able to go out for a beer with the players, coaches and GMs and discuss hockey philosophy and the nature of the game itself. There was a mutual respect and trust that was built which allowed the press to report on a deeper level than just the boxscore/standings and gave the teams a little leeway by ensuring that commentary was never personal. Without that level of cozy intimacy and professional courtesy the quality of reporting has fallen to the level of political punditry.

Today the relationship between the press and the clubs has devolved into an antagonistic environment where the media scrutinizes every little detail of a team's situation. They feel free to do this because they already have no access to the inner circle and therefore have nothing to lose by doing so.

Why am I stating this with regards to this article?

It's apparent to me that the current criticism of the HNIC broadcast, and their own negative reporting, highlights that neither Ron nor Don have any exclusive trust or access to GMs anymore. They are no more trusted in the industry than most beat writers though they once were. They blew that capital by trying to be as sensationalistic as the rest of the media these days, for ratings.

The relationship is broken, unrepairable.

If we want true hockey commentary on HNIC then the personnel, and their subsequent relationship as true 'insiders', must change completely. There will be a purging off of CBC hockey to accomplish this or the downward spiral will continue.

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It's time to move on from CBC and HNIC. Cherry is a hockey icon in this country and should be given the opportunity to retire with grace. Mclean is just a host, and there have been many over the years. I think his time on coaches corner has given him the sense that he is bigger than he really is and has led to his arrogance expanding over the past few years.

IMO the show jumped the shark when they dumped the original theme then dumped Chris Cuthbert stole Jim H from us and replaced Bob Cole with him in Toronto, leaving us with Mark Lee. Hopefully, another network will pick the show up and breathe new life into it, and hopefully bring in Jim H to the team so they'd have both him and Cuthbert back on Sat nights.

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