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#31 RyanKeslord17

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:32 PM

What about some dark horse teams?

San Jose?

Washington?

Chicago?


What are you even talking about?
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:35 PM

Komisarek, we don't have a defenseman like him on this team....you know,the kind that makes eye contact with the opponent

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:45 PM

Not a chance he gives up that 1st rounder, you honestly think he has not learned his lesson with the whole kessel saga?

Gardiner? NEVER

Schenn? Maybe

Liles or Franson are more likely with a 4th rounder


Do u not know what we are trading?

we aren't trading Booth, or Bieksa, or even Kesler, were trading Luongo, while you may think his value isn't much it's more than you think.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:46 PM

Komisarek, we don't have a defenseman like him on this team....you know,the kind that makes eye contact with the opponent


lol no
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:57 PM

What are you even talking about?


If TO is the only team interested in Luongo we are in trouble

These are other teams that in my eyes would also benefit from a bonafide #1

San Jose - is a team he would be willing to go too, they have to make some major changes, if we took a contract they may take Luongo

Washington - Same as San Jose, Holtby is nothing to bank on.

Chicago - is a Goaltender away from complete domination, long shot, the blood is too bad
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:04 PM

None...

Gardiner is a slightly better Tanev (better offensively and worse defensively), so why give a big asset up for him.

Schenn is overpaid bigtime for what he brings. I would like Schenn at $2.5 million max as a 3rd pairing guy who throws the body around, but he would have to be paired with someone who can drop the gloves as he is a terrible fighter when forced to back up his play.

Komisarek.... if they wanted to trade Ballard I suppose we could switch bad contracts... he does bring more what we need in the 6/7 spot than Ballard. Not what I would hope for as improvement though, I would much rather ditch Ballard's contract and get another top 4 guy in a package.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:08 PM

Do u not know what we are trading?

we aren't trading Booth, or Bieksa, or even Kesler, were trading Luongo, while you may think his value isn't much it's more than you think.


Hey Hey now, why the care bear stare? Relax, it's just my opinion

I hope some GM's watch Luongo play while blindfolded like all of the CDC Luongo Worshipers do.

A return like you purpose would happen will end Burke's Career and get Gillis a bronzed statue outside rogers arena.

That Would be awesome.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:09 PM

Gardiner on defense, nothing else from the Leafs. I'd rather have Gardiner than the 5th overall, but getting either is unlikely without adding something else.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:11 PM

Gardiner

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:12 PM

Hey Hey now, why the care bear stare? Relax, it's just my opinion

I hope some GM's watch Luongo play while blindfolded like all of the CDC Luongo Worshipers do.

A return like you purpose would happen will end Burke's Career and get Gillis a bronzed statue outside rogers arena.

That Would be awesome.


LOL you think luongo will only fetch a roster player and 4th rounder?
do you watch hockey?

elite level goalies are hard to come by... their not like forwards or defenseman...

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:13 PM

Matt dumba or Morgan Reilly with the 5th overall pick


This would be great

But in terms of roster players Schenn, Gardiner, Franson
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:14 PM

None, we don't accept losers from a losing team. We draft a D :)
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:16 PM

None, we don't accept losers from a losing team. We draft a D :)


Didn't know Florida was a winning team...

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:18 PM

I dread the thought of Schenn joining this team. I used to like his play (even when he played with Kelowna Rockets), but lately he has just been a talking, skating, liability on the ice. I thought it could have been just being on the Leafs but watching him play for team Canada had me shaking my head. This kid has some serious bad habits and will need intense coaching, IMO Vancouver is not the place that can right his ship.

I like Komisarek's mean streak and right-handedness, but I'm not happy with his foot speed or contract (but we have to take to give I guess). However I do think that Komi is another dman whose style just doesn't fit here, hopefully we pass.

The only one who intrigues me is Franson but I don't like his passiveness. We already have one giant who doesn't muck it up, don't really want another. Considering our options though he might be the only choice. Which means we would then have to take another Leaf player to even out the cap space being moved between the teams, likely a forward we don't want.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:22 PM

LOL you think luongo will only fetch a roster player and 4th rounder?
do you watch hockey?

elite level goalies are hard to come by... their not like forwards or defenseman...

change your usename from noheart to nobrain


HAHAH I bet you double fist pumped when you thought of that!! You are just plain and simply "witty"

Seriously, get a bucket take some catastrophic mental meltdowns, throw in a flop n drop octopus breakaway move, with a below 850 save % when it counts. then fill the rest with hair gel and you will have Luongo.

Now fine sir, if i walked up to you with that bucket and wanted to make a trade.. what would you give me? besides a kick in the side of my head
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:24 PM

would love the 5th overall but if we can't then Schenn and Ashton. Schenn is a better fit than many think we need a physical hard hitting shot blocking defensive first D man with size and grit, Schenn brings all this and is still very young and a lot of room to grow, we have the leaders on this team to help him develop, Toronto lacks that leadership, this will help Schenn a ton. If Burke won't move the 5th overall than Gillis would be nuts to not go after Schenn and Ashton and Burke would be nuts to not to give that up for Luongo and get him to the playoffs well Canucks add in the area we lack.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:25 PM

HAHAH I bet you double fist pumped when you thought of that!! You are just plain and simply "witty"

Seriously, get a bucket take some catastrophic mental meltdowns, throw in a flop n drop octopus breakaway move, with a below 850 save % when it counts. then fill the rest with hair gel and you will have Luongo.

Now fine sir, if i walked up to you with that bucket and wanted to make a trade.. what would you give me? besides a kick in the side of my head


triple fist pumped...

You've got to be kidding me, again elite goalies don't just come from no where. If a team wants luongo I gurantee they will overpay - I guess well see when he gets traded...

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:27 PM

Gardiner. If we get Gardiner, we're pretty much guaranteed Schultz.


Was going to say the exact same thing.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:29 PM

triple fist pumped...

You've got to be kidding me, again elite goalies don't just come from no where. If a team wants luongo I gurantee they will overpay - I guess well see when he gets traded...


Can you define Elite?

cause im clearly lost

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:30 PM

None...

Gardiner is a slightly better Tanev (better offensively and worse defensively), so why give a big asset up for him.

Schenn is overpaid bigtime for what he brings. I would like Schenn at $2.5 million max as a 3rd pairing guy who throws the body around, but he would have to be paired with someone who can drop the gloves as he is a terrible fighter when forced to back up his play.

Komisarek.... if they wanted to trade Ballard I suppose we could switch bad contracts... he does bring more what we need in the 6/7 spot than Ballard. Not what I would hope for as improvement though, I would much rather ditch Ballard's contract and get another top 4 guy in a package.


Gardiner is slighty better than Tanev right now and his potential is far superior. I'd live to see Schenn here. He's had no one to develop him. He's still a good prospect with great upside. Who does he have to learn from, Phaneuf? No wonder he's terrible. Franson is the worst of the three.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:32 PM

triple fist pumped...

You've got to be kidding me, again elite goalies don't just come from no where. If a team wants luongo I gurantee they will overpay - I guess well see when he gets traded...


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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:32 PM

Can you define Elite?

cause im clearly lost

:(


Luongo is a very good goalie and he's not far from returning to elite. A change of scenery may be all that's needed.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:34 PM

Burke will make a splash at the draft... It's his thing ...any of Gardiner, Schenn or franson. No to komisarek...

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:34 PM

I think if we can get both Schenn and Gardiner, Burke would try to convince MG to take Komisarek as well if he wants Jake. Now just imagine our D

Edler - Schenn
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Tanev - Gardiner
Komisarek - Ballard

That is sssssseeeeexxxxxyyyyyy

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:38 PM

I think if we can get both Schenn and Gardiner, Burke would try to convince MG to take Komisarek as well if he wants Jake. Now just imagine our D

Edler - Schenn
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Tanev - Gardiner
Komisarek - Ballard

That is sssssseeeeexxxxxyyyyyy


That doesn't make a lot of sense unless we are giving them d back. What team trades 3 top 6 D without getting one back. What team has that kind of depth? I could maybe see it if we were giving up Tanev, Sauve or Connauton in return.

Edited by mpt, 03 June 2012 - 11:40 PM.


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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:42 PM

I think if we can get both Schenn and Gardiner, Burke would try to convince MG to take Komisarek as well if he wants Jake. Now just imagine our D

Edler - Schenn
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Tanev - Gardiner
Komisarek - Ballard

That is sssssseeeeexxxxxyyyyyy


that D makes no sense and having over 8 million in cap space for on reserve D man is crazy. Gardiner is going no where, Burke is said to turn down Nash because they wanted Gardiner, Schenn is a very realistic option.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:44 PM

We don't need anything back but the CAP SPACE!
If we have to take cap space back like Komisarek...
then just keep Lou till the deal is right! Let Lou sulk as a backup, whatever he's getting paid well.

That being said we'd be lucky to get Schenn, we could develope his skill/size/toughness.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:47 PM

lol no


lol if he's going to toronto i can gurantee they will overpay...

the market for goalies isn;t so big - so I'm not thinking to high.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:47 PM

Hey Hey now, why the care bear stare? Relax, it's just my opinion

I hope some GM's watch Luongo play while blindfolded like all of the CDC Luongo Worshipers do.

A return like you purpose would happen will end Burke's Career and get Gillis a bronzed statue outside rogers arena.

That Would be awesome.


Lol, i'm fine and I love haters like you.

I guess you didn't see him carry us to the finals, I'm sure most canuck fans that don't hate Roberto would agree that he is done more for this team than AV and would agree that he is generally more important to the team than AV (just forget about us having cory for that).

Without Luongo there is absolutely no way we would have the team we currently do, Luongo will be traded but we will get more than you think for him, star goailes aren't easy to get and it won't be any different in this case.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:53 PM

I like schenn cause he's led leafs in hits two years in a row I would like to see big hits from him on our team




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