TheWheeler Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If cap space is an excuse being used for Vancouver NOT signing Doan (and Doan is actually wanting to come to Vancouver), then I will be happy to take a break from hockey for the year. It will tell me the team is absolutely off their rocker by choosing to go with the useless, non impact player that Raymond is, by refusing to either deal him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Weird how he broke his back playing for this team his career could have been over but he came back and got 10 goals and 10 assists yet everyone thinks he isn't good. It takes a whole lot of dedication to do what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If the fans can treat a world class goalie like crap how do you think a Mason Raymond would fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resdog Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Q: If we sign Doan then where would Raymond fit? A: In Doan's pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champions of Nothing Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Kassian in no way should be given minutes over Raymond, at least from what I seen last season. He was slower, less fore/back checking abilities, and overall less offensively dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslerian one Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 It's not like trading Raymond will give us so much in return anyways... why not keep him? We're not going to be over the cap if we trade Luongo for picks and prospects. Having Raymond, Hansen, Malhotra, Lapierre, Volpatti, Pinizzotto, Ebbett, Higgins to form our bottom 6 is kinda awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNucks74 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I would switch Schroeder and Lappy, especially if it is just a temporary thing, and that Schroeder would go back to the Wolves after. Schroeder would do better and would be able to show us his abilities more in that 2nd line spot. And hopefully we get Doan instead of having to use Jensen. But I doubt we would if we didn't get Doan anyways, no reason to rush him in, unless he is absolutely ready, but I don't think he is yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehamburglar Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I guess I should have said, he should be given a chance to prove himself in a top 6 role first. We know what Raymond can do, it to be honest it's not much in the last 2 years. Kassian is still only 21 years old, and has the raw ability to be there soon. Who knows how much he's improved his speed and hands over the summer and camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I'd rather have Raymond and a 3rd line center like Hecht than just Doan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoot Speed/Kill Light Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If the fans can treat a world class goalie like crap how do you think a Mason Raymond would fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I'd rather have Raymond and a 3rd line center like Hecht than just Doan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Ya, I agree with what your saying. It does make more sense to play Schroeder with more skilled players instead of sticking him in a grinding role. It is hard to showcase your talents if you're put with line mates who don't match your skill level. And ya, Doan is the missing piece that we need, he is the one guy that would really put us over the top. I hope we will be able to get him, but I'm not expecting it to happen. The only thing with Jensen is, I think we need to get him in the line up. It is okay to do what we did with Schneider, because goalies typically develop slower, but players are different. By no means do I think we should rush him into the line up, because if he is not ready then playing him is pointless. But if we don't get him into the line up soon, I fear he will become impatient with the organization. Also, if you look around the league, young players are thriving and injecting a young guy into our line up would make us faster, and would give us more enthusiasm. Getting young players on the team can let you sign better top-6 forwards as well because they are on cheap, entry-level deals. I agree with what you are saying though, and if he isn't ready, I would like to give him those 10 trial games or however many games we can give him at the start of the season; so he can get some experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks10271999 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 put him in a package with luongo or daniel henrik burrows booth kesler doan higgins lapierre hansen raymond malhotra kassian that fourth line has grit skill and reliable defensivley and can chip in with the offence here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNucks74 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 And most the young players that are thriving as first year players are top picks, and the others take a year or two before they can contend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronningsback Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Centre ice on the 2nd or 3rd line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 That's true, but many believe Jensen at 29th was a steal. And the Canucks coaching staff were really impressed with how Jensen preformed last year at the Canucks camp. Even in the preseason last year he looked good. He didn't look out of place and showed lots of patience. He's really good with the puck. I would like to get an other look at him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure1994Mclean Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Move him on the perimeter, that's where he seems to like it the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee21 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 no where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vkos Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 last chance if he doesn't come into camp in the best shape of his life with 15 lbs of muscle he should be dropped. enough already, playoff hockey requires animals not figure skaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Doan isn't going to sign with Vancouver. Just going to be a lot of e-rage towards Gillis again, as he's suppose to magically force all the top players to sign here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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