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#1 Drew1

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:15 AM

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Hey guys , Here is a video I think you guys should watch , here is the link



Everyone is saying that Schneider has only played a handfull of games and that he is in trouble once he becomes a number 1 he will change , its true he has only played so many games but if you look at the playoffs , Cory played games 3,4,5 and the scores were 1-0 3-1 2-1 , if we would have scores two goals JUST TWO GOALS in games three and five, we would be up 3-2 on the eventual Stanley Cup Winners , and Schneider played amazing game 3 he stopped like 48 shots in game 4 and in game 5 he was close to a shutout, he gave a up a weird goal he didnt really expect in the 3rd period . Cory only gave up 3 goals in 3 games to the Kings I dont count the game 5 OT goal because a team is going to win in overtime regardless , you play till someone scores, so he only gave up 3 goals in 3 regulation games against a team that dominated the the rest of the way and went on a historic run , and you have to take in account cory got thrown into the fire basically he found out gameday he would be playing and even after game 3 he still wasnt sure . All I am saying is if you watch the video I think you will be impressed with how amazing he is.

I for one am STOKED to think that he might be out starter on OPENING NIGHT, its a new era , and we get to see his new mask every game , everytime Cory played last year it was usually on the road , I like him in the home blue jersey , but yeah I always looked forward to his game , plus when Luongo got pulled , Cory went in on the spot and always shut the other team out , and he got charged with loses from luongos bad play like against Buffalo , when Lu gave up like 4 goals right off the bat , I know people say oh but he rested and only plays ever so often, but ask any athlete , and they live on routine , consitency , they want to be out there everyday , and one last thing , do you guys remember when Luongo took a puck to the mask and Cory played for like 2 weeks straight and went like 8-0 with like 3 or 4 shutouts and a bunch of 1 goal games,

please comment , and comment is appreciated

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:18 AM

Plus I think having 1 definitive number 1 goalie will help the players they wont wonder who is starting or hear about how short so and so's leash is and get asked questions , they know who will be out there, and everyone on CDC always says , the team looks better when Cory was in net because hes ice water baby
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:19 AM

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You have said nothing new and could have posted this in one of the dozen other threads.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:22 AM

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Dude give me a break , I really thought this out, and I am not jumping down anyones throat or anything , I am just saying whats on my mind, hey man were all in this together , we all love this team and want a Stanley Cup , I think we need to get along better, even though we are on the internet , but thanks man haha ;)
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:25 AM

I like your enthusiasm, although, I'm a bit tired of everyone's 'what if' comments about the Boston/LA series.

It's pretty amazing that we get to toss away a Vezina Finalist/Olympic Gold Medalist and still manage to upgrade our goaltending. I still have nightmares about Cloutier and the parade of inept backups that handicapped this team for so many years.

Edited by brewdog, 06 August 2012 - 01:26 AM.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:28 AM

Hey man , I dont think we should get mad at eachother for like making threads or saying what if , just because someone is always going to make a new thread you know haha , but yeah we should be thankful for Mr Luongo , and all he has done , I wish him nothing but the best if he does get traded because he at one point was rated as the most pressurized athlete in the world and he always had a smile on his face when it came to the team
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:29 AM

First and foremost, Cory has had the upmost proper development in the AHL and the NHL, Second, he has played in very big games the last few seasons and has not disappointed, both of which have prepared him to take the #1 spot and not plunder.

I don't get where people have the idea a guy who has been developed amazingly well and has had an amazing mentor in Luongo as well as great NHL experience is in trouble?

How old is he now, 26 if I'm not mistaken? I think it's fair to say he's ready.

Edited by JustBelieve, 06 August 2012 - 01:30 AM.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:30 AM

Thanks for your post. It was well thought out and layed out. Yes some has been repeated how ever at this point we have to wait and see and live through the so called dog days of summer to find out really is going to happen this season. Gillis has so much to do that I find it hard to predict what will happen but Schroeder seems to be worth waiting for in the big picture.

Plus predicting what's going to happen when we don't even know there'll be a season.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:31 AM

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Edited by Forsy, 06 August 2012 - 01:32 AM.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:32 AM

OT goals don't count? :huh:

Well, there's no denying Cory has the talent and work ethic and ability. What we don't know is whether or not he can maintain that quality of play for an entire season, and for years to come.

Andrew Raycroft is a good example. The guy won the Calder, and then he amounted to what? Yeah....

Anyways, nothing was said in this thread that hasn't been said a million times already.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:38 AM

Wishing Cory the best because that is what Gillis has decreed.

Need a reliable back up in case the feel good theory goes pear shaped in game 60.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:38 AM

Well thought out, that's something that has been in the back of my head too (the excitement) but I haven't really thought about it, I just want to see him in the playoffs next year because I think we will have a really good chance and our team will be back to that 2010-11 mindset and we will roll like we did in the playoffs without having the lingering pain of the loss to deal with like we did this year.

I'm excited for this year, I hope there is no lock-out or else I'll be extremely disappointed.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:39 AM

Of course OT goals count , and thats why I said regulation , and man it takes alot less energy to be positive then negative, negative posts cause drama and sly comments you know, its ok and all its just yeah lol ahah ;) but yeah as JustBelieve said , if you look at his AHL and NHL stats they got better every year, I mean thats awesome
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:41 AM

Thanks everybody who said it was well thought out , guess what , I had written one a little shorter and my computer froze and i clicked recover and lost it all lol so I did it again ahaha , but yeah plus remember kesler against nashville , other teams in the league thinks oh he wont be back to his old self , man if he comes back healthy 110% he will be motivated as ever , especially if we get off to a great start and since he had 1 goals in his last 19 games
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:44 AM

OT goals don't count? :huh:

Well, there's no denying Cory has the talent and work ethic and ability. What we don't know is whether or not he can maintain that quality of play for an entire season, and for years to come.

Andrew Raycroft is a good example. The guy won the Calder, and then he amounted to what? Yeah....

Anyways, nothing was said in this thread that hasn't been said a million times already.


Steve Mason is another example but I dont think either or good one's both were rushed into the starters job and were really unproven, they just had a hot streak both on teams that weren't all that great, Boston wasn't all that good in the late 90's early 00's and they just started to turn it around in 07.

Schneider has been groomed and groomed for this and he has been put through many tests that those two probably wouldn't have passed, I don't have any doubts that Schneids won't be able to live up to his potential but people around here (mainly huge Luongo fans) are just saying that because there are unhappy that Luongo is on his way out, so they look for some reason why we should do what is best for everyone.

For the Record I am a huge Luongo fan, more Luongo fan than Schneider fan but I do give full credit to where it is due, can't wait to see Schneids in net next year and I hope Lu does great in his new home, I'll still remain a big fan.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:51 AM

Anyone else on here absolutely Jacked to see Schneids in our first home game with his New mask , (CHROME) haha ;)

but since we went out early it was better to get out early and have all this rest for the players then go 2nd or 3rd round and have guys like kesler just get totally injured and he would be out even longer, its almost like we didnt make playoffs, this will be the most rest the Sedins have had since we last missed the playoffs and that was when Naslund was on the team , long time ago .
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:52 AM

Two seasons ago we went as far as you can go , game 7 and then if felt like when the season ended every team was like ok draft time and we just finished so then the off season felt short and the players got asked everyday what about last season how does this compare, so now with the early exit , the players can truly focus on this year, and us fans havent seen them in so long , the building should be rockin :)
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:56 AM

is getting excited 2 more months 2 MORE MONTHS!!!! i cant wait
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:57 AM

I just want to thank everybody here for the kind words and positivity , everyone seems to have banned together and we all cant wait for the season :)
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:15 AM

Comparing Schneider's 3 good playoff games (of which he won 1) and his little string of 6 or 7 starts in a row to Luongo's consecutive 30-win seasons, Vezina nomination, Hart nomination, Gold medal and countless spectacular performances in the playoffs seems a bit naive don't you think?

Yes Schneider looks good, but when you compare his body of work to Luongo's its no doubt who the safe bet for success is. With Schneider, anything could happen if he takes the reins this season. With Luongo, the Canucks would be pretty much guaranteed another 30-win effort in only 55 games and clutch playoff performances.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:23 AM

DownUndaCanuck - Nobody was comparing Luongo to Cory, I did not once post Luongo's stats, I am trying to get people excited and positive and show how amazing Cory is , would you rather have someone write something saying hes going to fail , no and you saying Luongo having gold medal and exc is true but thats like saying oh this rookie is no good he has no gold medal or stanley cup , Luongo is turning 34 Cory is only 26 , let him how can you put down a young player because he does not have the track record of a vetern who has almost done it all .
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:25 AM

It's no secret why every GM in the league has called about Cory and would you rather have Luongo who apperently said he will retire in 4 years or so and have Cory go to another team and wonder what could have been , like c'mon man , ur saying what if cory doesnt live up to the expectations , well what if he wins the vezina and Stanley Cup
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:27 AM

Steve Mason is another example but I dont think either or good one's both were rushed into the starters job and were really unproven, they just had a hot streak both on teams that weren't all that great, Boston wasn't all that good in the late 90's early 00's and they just started to turn it around in 07.

Schneider has been groomed and groomed for this and he has been put through many tests that those two probably wouldn't have passed, I don't have any doubts that Schneids won't be able to live up to his potential but people around here (mainly huge Luongo fans) are just saying that because there are unhappy that Luongo is on his way out, so they look for some reason why we should do what is best for everyone.

For the Record I am a huge Luongo fan, more Luongo fan than Schneider fan but I do give full credit to where it is due, can't wait to see Schneids in net next year and I hope Lu does great in his new home, I'll still remain a big fan.


I agree. The Raycroft example was reaching a bit, haha. What I really meant was to show how a promising young goaltender can fall by the way side.

That being said, I agree with you that Schneider has been developed the right way, so I don't think he has the same risk of fizzling out like Mason (great example) and Raycroft. Cory has stepped up in big games and shown he can play.

The thing is, playing 20-30 games in a season is really different than playing 50-65+ games in a season. I am optimistic and really hope Cory can live up to the task at hand.


Surely, DownUnda, comparing Schneider's achievements so far to Luongo's would be a bit of a reach. Luongo has been an elite goalie for a long time, and is just now beginning to slow down. I most definitely agree that with Luongo we are sure to get 30+ wins out of 50-55 starts. That's part of why I don't understand why people think Luongo's trade value is low. Sure, we have to trade the guy now given the circumstances but the fact that he can basically take any bubble team into the post-season and win 30+ games should mean his value is still there. Mike Gillis knows this too, and I wouldn't be surprised if we're running a Luongo-Schneider tandem come September or whenever the darn season starts.


I don't think we need to worry too much about Cory though. I think he will be great.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:32 AM

There are reasons why Cory has huge expectations because he has earned them , he beat Boston in Boston he beat Chicago , I honestly don't know any other team that would put their backup , I never thought of Cory as a backup though , in the biggest and best game of the year against boston , I mean people just brush it aside but what team would put their backup goalie in a rematch of the stanley cup finals ?
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:37 AM

There are reasons why Cory has huge expectations because he has earned them , he beat Boston in Boston he beat Chicago , I honestly don't know any other team that would put their backup , I never thought of Cory as a backup though , in the biggest and best game of the year against boston , I mean people just brush it aside but what team would put their backup goalie in a rematch of the stanley cup finals ?


To be honest, the whole "rematch of the SCF" thing is way overblown. It's not. It's one game. One regular season game, at that. Cory's from Boston, and his friends and family were in attendance. Makes sense, really.

That being said, he sure played well in an admittedly high-pressure situation.

There's no denying Cory is a good goaltender, but because he beat a few good teams a couple of times, I'd be wary of tooting his horn this much.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:43 AM

The Canucks Boston series was the most watched program ever on CBC ever! and after the game was over people were like wow I wish these teams played like 4 times a year and they were like rarely does a game live up to the hype , man no even 5 mins in and the boxes were full , that game was HUGE! even after the game bieksa and other guys were jacked and fired up , there was so much on the line thats why it was so intense , both teams were the best in the league at the time of that game and there was a good chance at the time we would meet in the SCF , really good chance but you know things change exc but yeah , it was a huge game , anyone who watched got fired up anybody
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:48 AM

Hey man there is nothing wrong with praising the players on you're team that you believe in , fans is just a short word for fanatics ;)
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:49 AM

I agree. The Raycroft example was reaching a bit, haha. What I really meant was to show how a promising young goaltender can fall by the way side.

That being said, I agree with you that Schneider has been developed the right way, so I don't think he has the same risk of fizzling out like Mason (great example) and Raycroft. Cory has stepped up in big games and shown he can play.

The thing is, playing 20-30 games in a season is really different than playing 50-65+ games in a season. I am optimistic and really hope Cory can live up to the task at hand.


Surely, DownUnda, comparing Schneider's achievements so far to Luongo's would be a bit of a reach. Luongo has been an elite goalie for a long time, and is just now beginning to slow down. I most definitely agree that with Luongo we are sure to get 30+ wins out of 50-55 starts. That's part of why I don't understand why people think Luongo's trade value is low. Sure, we have to trade the guy now given the circumstances but the fact that he can basically take any bubble team into the post-season and win 30+ games should mean his value is still there. Mike Gillis knows this too, and I wouldn't be surprised if we're running a Luongo-Schneider tandem come September or whenever the darn season starts.


I don't think we need to worry too much about Cory though. I think he will be great.


Yeah I agree with what you said but I will be shocked if we look back in hindsight and see that Schneider is the next Mason/Raycroft. I wouldn't believe it, but I doubt it will happen.


Comparing Schneider's 3 good playoff games (of which he won 1) and his little string of 6 or 7 starts in a row to Luongo's consecutive 30-win seasons, Vezina nomination, Hart nomination, Gold medal and countless spectacular performances in the playoffs seems a bit naive don't you think?

Yes Schneider looks good, but when you compare his body of work to Luongo's its no doubt who the safe bet for success is. With Schneider, anything could happen if he takes the reins this season. With Luongo, the Canucks would be pretty much guaranteed another 30-win effort in only 55 games and clutch playoff performances.


I think this is the perfect example of when I ment when I said that Luongo lover's (which I consider myself) just use that imexperianced thing about Schneider because they want Luongo to stay badly and realize he is on his way out.

I'm not trying to badmouth DownUndaCanuck because his posts are good and stuff, but it is unfair to compare a 33 year vet to a 26 year old who hasn't been a starter yet, in 10 years or less I think Schneider will have acomplished the same amount if not more than Luongo, I'm not trying to knock Luongo I just say that because Lu was with a bad team for a huge portion of his career.

I think all these sterotypes will go away a month or two into the season, and I think Schneider will catch fire in the playoffs and play well like we have seen with Quick, Smith, Brodeur, Lundqvist, Thomas, Roloson even here when Luongo did.

I dont see a scenerio where Schneids doesn't pan out, I can't wait to see him once the season begins, I'm super excited for this season.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:21 AM

DownUndaCanuck - Nobody was comparing Luongo to Cory, I did not once post Luongo's stats, I am trying to get people excited and positive and show how amazing Cory is , would you rather have someone write something saying hes going to fail , no and you saying Luongo having gold medal and exc is true but thats like saying oh this rookie is no good he has no gold medal or stanley cup , Luongo is turning 34 Cory is only 26 , let him how can you put down a young player because he does not have the track record of a vetern who has almost done it all .


You're asking the wrong guy, if you look at his recent posts in his profile about 80% of what he posts on CDC is about how Luongo is the best goalie ever, playoff MVP 4 life and how Schneider will definitely falter. I think he even dared people to quote him that we won't even make the playoffs with Schneider this year, or at the very least will make a quick exit.

I like your enthusiasm for Schneider OP, I'm excited to see what he can do.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:27 AM

Moonshinefe- Hey man the more and more support we can give Cory the more this will be his home you know. Cory is an amazing guy , he could have easily easily waited like 1 more day and tested free agency to atleast tell the canucks , oh I got a 5 mill or 6 mill offer but he seen how all the players on the Canucks have taken pay discounts , and he is thinking Team first, we should feel special we have so many guys taken paycuts ,
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