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#31 WeatherWise

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:23 PM

Two very memorable goals from his past two seasons as a Canuck. In both, he utilized his skating prowess to create an opportunity for himself. In the first video, he is skating at a magnificent speed. In the second, his fluid skating brings him across the rink very easily. In both cases, he begins from behind his own net. If AV allowed him to skate end-to-end a bit more, we could perhaps see him generate more offense than we've seen thus far.





The coast-to-coast goal in the OP says everything about his rushing ability, though.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:49 PM

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:59 PM

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:23 PM

Unfortunately, there are rumours he's going to Dallas.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:32 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing this as the PP units:

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:05 PM

As it happens, we have the only man in the hockey industry that doesn't think that Keith Ballard can play the point on the power play as our head coach.

Alain Vigneault.

Alain has never used Ballard on the powerplay and he never will. Alain believes that Aaron Rome is better suited to the role than Ballard. Of course, Alain is insane, but he is the coach, now and forever.

But yes, it is very frustrating, isn't it?
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:10 PM

Hope he does get a bigger role here.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:24 AM

I been saying it since day 1. Ballard is a top 4 guy that can play big hard minutes and is the type of d-man every team wants during the playoffs. There is a reason he was used in all situations on other teams and playing over 20 minutes a night, and this all lead to him getting 4.2mil.

Day 1 we got Bally, I thought him and Hamhuis would be our top shutdown pairing. Boy was I wrong. I still belive that if Ballard is used properly is worth his contract. If he his traded to another team, he will be a top d man.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:27 AM

Ballard is probably the best skater on our team and one of the best skating defensemen in the NHL, skates like the wind.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:49 AM

Ballard is not worth $4.2m, end of story. He has been paid that for the last two seasons and by my math probably owes the Aqualini's about $6m just for sucking in his own end.


He was paid $4.2m for having a good few seasons with previous clubs Phoenix and to some part Florida. What did they do that the Canucks don't? That's right they played Ballard on the PP and PK.

AV played him 10 minutes a night some nights. You rag on about Ballard not worth $4.2m but I'd rather have him as a 5th D at $4.2m than Rome at $1.5m.

Ballard is great insurance if one of our top 4 go down in the playoffs ( like they usually do ) or do you not remember who our best D was against the Kings?

AV better give this guy some PP time or we will see the same old rubbish from some people on CDC that ' Ballard isn't worth it'

The guy is Ideal for the PP and also a great shot blocker. Let's hope AV uses him as he should this season!
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:58 AM

What nobody is offering up is his injury history.Nobody talks about it and many diss Ballard without even mentioning it.

Gillis and the .org brought Ballard in here after his SECOND hip surgery.They gave Florida two first rounders in Grabner and Howden and we got a salary dump and Oreo bye bye.Florida dumped a lot of salary in a severely injured Ballard.Bernier is still a serviceable NHL third/ fourth liner.

Gillis.org felt so compelled to acquire Ballard they gave up on Grabner and also gave up a future first round top pick.In retrospect it appears they failed miserably but it was Ballard's injuries that made the Gillis.org deal look worse than what Ballard can provide for any team.

The second hip surgery really set Ballard back.He struggled into camp,through camp and into the regular season.
Four games in as a Canuck Ballard suffered a serious concussion.
Still,Ballard came back what appears to be very prematurely and his poor game play reflected his cognitive disabilities.Having suffered consecutive concussions myself I place the blame squarely on the Canucks medical staff for allowing Ballard to return to play far too quickly.

Then Ballard suffered his third setback within months -sprained MCL.His first year as a Canuck was a complete write off.

Last year Ballard started well even though he received limited minutes but suffered a back injury in October .

In February of this year Ballard suffered two more head injuries and yet continued to play as he went un/misdiagnosed and played on with yet another concussion.

Ballard's play before and after the second concussion was effective.
His play was even inspirational at times,throwing his patented hip checks and being involved in four fights,two of the sensational variety.

Again,the Canucks .org misdiagnosed his second concussion and in his condition should have never been put in a position of taking punches to the head yet there are precious few players on this team that defend their team mates,like Ballard will and does.The exceptions are Lappy and Alberts. Bieksa is a throw in as he picks his spots and far more has always been expected of him.

Ballard's tenure here has been unfortunate as he came in injured and then suffered further consecutive,serious injuries,coupled with terrible timing.

Now that he is injury free and should be healthier I believe this should be Ballard's best ever year as a Canuck.

Ballard is an above average NHL d man with explosive speed,excellent positioning and is a throw back to the d men of old-hard hitting and a defender of his mates.

Very few Canucks display his courage and heart.I would not get rid of Ballard unless the payback is overly sufficient.

This organisation needs more heart and soul and employing those players like Ballard that are willing to cover for their mates and can dish it out and take it like a real pro are hard to find ,never mind acquire.

No whining,no diving,no complaining,no cheap shots.Hits hard,plays positionally excellent,fighter ,covers his mates backs.Clone this guy.

Edited by nuck nit, 07 August 2012 - 06:37 AM.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 03:32 AM

Ballard is money and he doesn't even know it!!!!












thanks to AV!!! :bigblush:
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:28 AM

Belive it or not but Ballard isn't paid to be on the PP.

Ballard has one thing in common in all those videos, his ability to MOVE THE PUCK. Whether it's the first pass, end to end rushes, or in the offensive zone, Ballard is paid to move the puck. This means he is paid to get the puck out of our zone; therefore, he isn't required on the PP becuase the puck is usually already in the offensive zone.

He might of had a chance at PP time this season before the Garrison signing but he will not now.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:36 AM

With Rome gone, skies the limit.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:44 AM

I have always said he is a good player. But for whatever reason Rome was used more than Ballard. I mean the first 2-3 games Rome was on the PP and Ballard was lucky to get 10minutes of ice time.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:04 AM

If you haven't noticed, AV tends to do certain things to players who come from other teams/rookies and haven't played in his system.

1. He tears them down, kind of a purging of the bad habits they may have learned on weaker teams, didn't play in more disciplined two way systems (see Ballard, Booth etc). Guys like Lappy and Higgins fit right in because they were defensively responsible players. See CoHo and Kassian. This can impact their short term confidence because they over think, they stop playing the offensive game they are used to, and don't feel like they are contributing.

2. He then forces them to earn their ice by playing within the system.

3. As they show they can play both ways, accept the team concept he gives them more ice. Then the confidence starts coming back and their offensive game thrives as if you play well in your own end, you get more chances. He did this with Kesler, with Burrows, Naslund (didn't work, too late to change his game) etc.

I think we are starting to see that with Ballard, that his defensive game is coming around and he will see more ice as he continues to play within the team concept. Booth we shall see what happens this year.

But this is simply good coaching, its called getting / training players to buy into the system, and this is why we have won back to back president's trophies.

AV is not a problem he is a terrific coach and knows what he is doing.


This.

I think Ballard is coming around. He had some bad habits from playing on a bottom feeder team.
In the LA series he was one of our better defenceman.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:57 AM

he came to van injured.
Av has never shown confidence in him even rome got used more. the best thing for ballard and the nucks would be a trade because as long as av is the coach this guy will not be used up to his potential. its to bad because i agree that he is much better player than he is portrayed in vancouver
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:07 AM

he came to van injured.
Av has never shown confidence in him even rome got used more. the best thing for ballard and the nucks would be a trade because as long as av is the coach this guy will not be used up to his potential. its to bad because i agree that he is much better player than he is portrayed in vancouver

Honestly I wouldn't trade Ballard unless if it's part of some package deal. Ballards value is probably terrible right now, I doubt we could get a first for just him. I would rather keep him as a great 5th D-man.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:19 AM

I'd rather have him on there rather than Hamhuis..

Can't make Hamhuis play 5000000 mins a game 82+ a year
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:26 AM

Ballard I honestly believe is a top 3 defender (possibly top 2) when you let him sink into the game. Two years ago when we had him in the dog house he was actually our best defenceman for about a quarter of the year, probably more. Which is tough when you had Hamhuis but Hamhuis really adjusted to the style this past year and was absolutely amazing.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:48 AM

dear keith ballard lovers.....you are insane!
keith ballard has a terrible point shot and can't hit the net. he is incapable of playing the power play.

keith ballard had the worst shooting percentage on the entire canucks roster last season:
2011-2012 - Regular Season - Vancouver Canucks - Skater - Summary - Points Player Team Pos GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW OT S S% TOI/G Sft/G FO%

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1 Henrik Sedin VAN C 82 14 67 81 +23 52 8 0 6 0 113 12.4 19:05 24.8 50.1 2 Daniel Sedin VAN L 72 30 37 67 +14 40 10 0 6 2 229 13.1 18:48 25.0 31.6 3 Alexandre Burrows VAN L 80 28 24 52 +24 90 3 2 7 0 198 14.1 18:28 25.8 35.0 4 Ryan Kesler VAN C 77 22 27 49 +11 56 8 1 1 0 222 9.9 20:05 25.8 53.6 5 Alexander Edler VAN D 82 11 38 49 +0 34 5 1 0 0 228 4.8 23:51 28.9 0.0 6 Kevin Bieksa VAN D 78 8 36 44 +12 94 2 0 2 0 166 4.8 23:38 28.2 0.0 7 Chris Higgins VAN L 71 18 25 43 +11 16 1 1 4 2 165 10.9 16:18 23.5 40.0 8 Jannik Hansen VAN R 82 16 23 39 +18 34 0 1 1 0 137 11.7 14:53 22.3 41.4 9 Dan Hamhuis VAN D 82 4 33 37 +29 46 1 0 0 0 140 2.9 23:25 28.8 0.0 10 David Booth FLA, VAN L 62 16 14 30 -5 34 3 0 1 0 159 10.1 14:55 20.7 50.0 11 Sami Salo VAN D 69 9 16 25 +7 10 7 0 3 1 136 6.6 20:26 27.8 0.0 12 Mason Raymond VAN L 55 10 10 20 +4 18 1 1 2 0 125 8.0 15:35 22.2 28.0 13 Maxim Lapierre VAN C 82 9 10 19 -3 130 0 0 0 0 103 8.7 11:13 17.6 52.1 14 Manny Malhotra VAN C 78 7 11 18 -11 14 0 0 2 0 60 11.7 12:20 20.9 58.5 15 Samuel Pahlsson CBJ, VAN C 80 4 13 17 -2 34 0 1 1 0 93 4.3 14:46 21.4 52.6 16 Marc-Andre Gragnani BUF, VAN D 58 2 13 15 +6 26 1 0 0 0 47 4.3 16:08 21.0 100.0 17 Aaron Rome VAN D 43 4 6 10 -4 46 1 0 1 0 42 9.5 15:13 20.3 0.0 18 Zack Kassian BUF, VAN R 44 4 6 10 -2 51 0 0 0 0 54 7.4 11:17 15.0 47.8 19 Dale Weise VAN R 68 4 4 8 -1 81 0 0 0 0 48 8.3 8:09 13.2 0.0 20 Keith Ballard VAN D 47 1 6 7 +0 64 0 0 0 0 41 2.4 15:33 21.4 0.0 21 Andrew Ebbett VAN C 18 5 1 6 +2 6 1 0 2 2 27 18.5 9:35 14.6 53.6 22 Byron Bitz VAN R 10 1 3 4 +2 14 0 0 0 0 6 16.7 10:29 17.4 0.0 23 Andrew Alberts VAN D 44 2 1 3 +4 40 0 0 2 0 19 10.5 14:17 19.7 0.0 24 Christopher Tanev VAN D 25 0 2 2 +10 2 0 0 0 0 15 0.0 16:43 22.4 0.0 25 Mike Duco VAN R 6 0 2 2 +1 5 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 8:03 13.2 0.0 26 Aaron Volpatti VAN L 23 1 0 1 -2 37 0 0 0 0 17 5.9 8:58 13.6 100.0 27 Mark Mancari VAN R 6 0 0 0 +0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0.0 8:18 13.0 0.0 28 Bill Sweatt VAN L 2 0 0 0 +0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0 5:20 9.0 0.0 29 Victor Oreskovich VAN R 1 0 0 0 +0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 6:17 9.0 0.0


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AV won't use Ballard on the PP now that Garrison is here.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

Ballard will hit his stride eventually, I still don't know why he hasn't worked out in our system designed for hybrid defensemen. A little more ice time maybe.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:14 PM

What nobody is offering up is his injury history.Nobody talks about it and many diss Ballard without even mentioning it.

Gillis and the .org brought Ballard in here after his SECOND hip surgery.They gave Florida two first rounders in Grabner and Howden and we got a salary dump and Oreo bye bye.Florida dumped a lot of salary in a severely injured Ballard.Bernier is still a serviceable NHL third/ fourth liner.

Gillis.org felt so compelled to acquire Ballard they gave up on Grabner and also gave up a future first round top pick.In retrospect it appears they failed miserably but it was Ballard's injuries that made the Gillis.org deal look worse than what Ballard can provide for any team.

The second hip surgery really set Ballard back.He struggled into camp,through camp and into the regular season.
Four games in as a Canuck Ballard suffered a serious concussion.
Still,Ballard came back what appears to be very prematurely and his poor game play reflected his cognitive disabilities.Having suffered consecutive concussions myself I place the blame squarely on the Canucks medical staff for allowing Ballard to return to play far too quickly.

Then Ballard suffered his third setback within months -sprained MCL.His first year as a Canuck was a complete write off.

Last year Ballard started well even though he received limited minutes but suffered a back injury in October .

In February of this year Ballard suffered two more head injuries and yet continued to play as he went un/misdiagnosed and played on with yet another concussion.

Ballard's play before and after the second concussion was effective.
His play was even inspirational at times,throwing his patented hip checks and being involved in four fights,two of the sensational variety.

Again,the Canucks .org misdiagnosed his second concussion and in his condition should have never been put in a position of taking punches to the head yet there are precious few players on this team that defend their team mates,like Ballard will and does.The exceptions are Lappy and Alberts. Bieksa is a throw in as he picks his spots and far more has always been expected of him.

Ballard's tenure here has been unfortunate as he came in injured and then suffered further consecutive,serious injuries,coupled with terrible timing.

Now that he is injury free and should be healthier I believe this should be Ballard's best ever year as a Canuck.

Ballard is an above average NHL d man with explosive speed,excellent positioning and is a throw back to the d men of old-hard hitting and a defender of his mates.

Very few Canucks display his courage and heart.I would not get rid of Ballard unless the payback is overly sufficient.

This organisation needs more heart and soul and employing those players like Ballard that are willing to cover for their mates and can dish it out and take it like a real pro are hard to find ,never mind acquire.

No whining,no diving,no complaining,no cheap shots.Hits hard,plays positionally excellent,fighter ,covers his mates backs.Clone this guy.


It's possible there was 4-6 missed diagnoses by the Canucks. It's also possible that Ballard pulled a:
http://ca.sports.yah...urn=nhl,wp20320

Ballard was a player that had a long history of playing through injuries before coming to Vancouver and it finally caught up to him (not unlike what is currently happening to Kesler).

Edited by Millerdraft, 07 August 2012 - 01:16 PM.

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Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:14 PM

Belive it or not but Ballard isn't paid to be on the PP.

Ballard has one thing in common in all those videos, his ability to MOVE THE PUCK. Whether it's the first pass, end to end rushes, or in the offensive zone, Ballard is paid to move the puck. This means he is paid to get the puck out of our zone; therefore, he isn't required on the PP becuase the puck is usually already in the offensive zone.

He might of had a chance at PP time this season before the Garrison signing but he will not now.


You basically said it yourself, he can MOVE THE PUCK. What constitutes a great power play? Lot's of shots. What gets a power play the chances to shoot? Great puck movement. It's a win-win with Ballard, he can move the puck and defend.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:15 PM

Some random thoughts.

IMO Rome was used instead of Ballard because VAN wanted to dress more size. The coaches decided the top 4 needed more help clearing the crease and using size more than anything else.

The addition of Garrison should change the D this upcoming season. If Eder - Garrison can handle the physical side of things, Ballard - Tanev could in theory become the full-time 3rd pairing.

I also think that the goaltending change may affect the need for shot blocking. It seemed that with Luongo the preference was to let pucks reach the net. This may change with Schneider. If so, shot blocking is an area that Ballard excels at.

If the above is not the case. And Ballard is not getting an increased role. Then I really hope the Canucks can just admit that he doesn't fit and trade him. Both for his sake and for the other D who could develop in that spot.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 03:41 PM

He actually had a pretty decent start to last season, but he was playing well while everyone else started slow so nobody really noticed it. Then he got hurt and never really got back on track. There ought to be more minutes on the blueline this season so as long as he stays healthy he should have a better year.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:47 PM

It's possible there was 4-6 missed diagnoses by the Canucks. It's also possible that Ballard pulled a:
http://ca.sports.yah...urn=nhl,wp20320

Ballard was a player that had a long history of playing through injuries before coming to Vancouver and it finally caught up to him.


Ballard had no history of brain injury until he put on a Vancouver uniform.
Concussions are head injuries.You don't hide them from anybody.They happen and you live with them.
If the team that you work for can not diagnose them do not blame the head injured as they are compromised.
If you think Ballard 'pulled something' you have little to no understanding of brain injuries.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:55 PM

Gotta say, really needed to see this again to realize his potential.
We need him to play to his value this year....
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:58 PM

Unfortunately, there are rumours he's going to Dallas.


Source? i haven't heard those rumors....
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:59 PM

it is apparent that he just needs to go back to wearing number 2... hamuis move over ;) jk
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