dajusta Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Uh oh, here we go. Which one of you is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Francis Collins, one of the scientists who was on the Human Genome Project, is an evangelical Christian. "“To get our universe, with all of its potential for complexities or any kind of potential for any kind of life-form, everything has to be precisely defined on this knife edge of improbability…. [Y]ou have to see the hands of a creator who set the parameters to be just so because the creator was interested in something a little more complicated than random particles.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 They're only "Adam and Eve" in name only, obviously. In addition to living tens of thousands of years apart, our most recent common male and female ancestors weren't the only members of their respective genders at that time, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 And 97% of the National Academy of Science Members are atheist. And 1% of the prison population is atheist. Who believes it is irrelevant to making to truthful or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 We both believe in God. We are both right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 They are Adam and Eve in that every modern human can trace their roots patrilineally or matrilineally to them. Obviously. I wasn't saying "Hurr durr, this means religion is true." Just pointing out an interesting fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Only if you are both heretics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Francis Collins was a self proclaimed atheist before his research in genetics. He converted after his findings. How many of those members were born in atheist families? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Francis Collins was a self proclaimed atheist before his research in genetics. He converted after his findings. How many of those members were born in atheist families? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Given that's a US statistic, not many I would assume. And you're using this argument that one smart guy believes in god therefore we all should. What about the myriad of brilliant scientists who don't believe in god? Stephen Hawking, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, etc don't believe in god, therefore you shouldn't either. Makes perfect sense, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Yeah I think Lennox deals with Hawking's view pretty well in his book "God and Stephen Hawking: Whose Design is it Anyway?" Great little book only 96 pages and not expensive I would recommend it. I read it in a day last Spring. Check out the reviews on Goodreads or Amazon anyway. Plus even if it were given that the universe could create itself out of nothing (and that's a big given) it still wouldn't answer the questions of whether a god was necessary for life or consciousness. Not to mention if "laws like gravity" existed then that would be something and not nothing. Which just raises the question are the laws of physics eternal? Did they always exist or did they have a cause? Anyway you look at it, whether god, or the laws of nature, something had to always exist and we don't seem to be in a position to say what that something was for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 He believes in God I believe in God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 You have a point, but the original point was to refute the research of the human genetics as evidence against God. And so I brought up a genetics expert to put more weight on the fact that the research does not necessarily disprove God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Do you think he is allowed to gloss over the chapter on creation like evangelical christians do with the book of genesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Super19, I really want to say, that I apologize immensely for the stupid anti-Muslim film. It's over the top, unneeded, and extremely offensive. I wish I could go Libya and personally apologize to every Muslim there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't understand. What do you mean? I'm assuming you think Genesis contradicts everything science is finding? If so, then trust me, I don't believe in young earth theory at all. Nor do I think Adam and Eve were the absolute first two human beings on the earth. But I still believe Genesis 1+2 as the infallible Word of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 read up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Pickin and choosin, the evolution of the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 On? The part where man was created out of dust? Or where god made woman out of his rib? Or the part where bats are birds? And what did those pesky giants get up to? Haven't seen them in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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