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#361 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:09 PM

This message brought to you by the man who would not trade Luke Schenn for 10 1st round picks.

And Burke comparing the hype surrounding the Sedin's to Mario Lemieux and Eric Lindros is utterly hysterical. Not even close, especially in the case of Lindros, who was heralded as the next Gretzky. I don't recall Henrik Sedin ever being expected to score 2,000 points over his NHL career.

The reality of that time was that the team was a disaster, tickets were easy to come by and cheap (exactly why Burke was trying to hype them up so much - to help sell tickets), and there were not a lot of Canuck fans sold on the idea that a couple of Swedish twins were going to save the franchise.

Sedin's have way, way exceeded their expectations.


Lol I find it so funny how that quote gets blown out of proportoin, what he said was that he sees him as a future captain and that he wasn't moving him. He said "If someone offers us something outragous like 10 first rounds picks, then he's on a plane. That's the way it is"

Also the narrator was saying that too, it wasn't just Burke, so you see it was a widely expected that these guys would one day be stars.

And how can u make fun of him saying that (Which he didn't) then trading Schenn? You think he doesn't always mean what he says?

Well then I guess when he says "Seeing Riemer makes us rethink our goaltending situation" and "We are willing to upgrade at goaltending at a resonable price" he could be just blowing smoke. So he could actually be desperate for Luongo, and be willing to pay more than the scraps you think he will garner, since he said he "wouldn't trade schenn for 10 first" then traded him later on.

And you are dead wrong about this Sedin thing, you have already demonstrated you know very little about the team, so it's no surprise everyone disagrees with you again. But that's all beside the point.

Hodgson was expected to be a 1st liner no? A poor mans Stamkos? Which he isn't and won't become, so then I guess he is the most overhyped draft pick we have ever had, and he is a bust since he isn't living up to expectations, by your logic. So then that means the deal wasn't actually that bad deal, trading away a bust right? Someone not living up to expectations? With ton's of better players drafted later on?

These are all the same contradicting arguments (Contradicting for you not me) that you have made, but nonetheless you will come and reply and spin this someother way, can't wait to see your reply King.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:10 PM

Yeah,Kassian,how old were you in 1999?
Old news?
How many of you were as old as the Canucks as a franchise?


Lol did you sign off of your King of ES account then sign in as Nuck Nit?

Do you honestly think more was expected of Hodgson than the Sedins. LOL (I can't believe I just said that, I sound like a complete idiot for even suggesting it but hey that's what you believe right?)
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:18 PM

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This message brought to you by the man who would not trade Luke Schenn for 10 1st round picks.

And Burke comparing the hype surrounding the Sedin's to Mario Lemieux and Eric Lindros is utterly hysterical. Not even close, especially in the case of Lindros, who was heralded as the next Gretzky. I don't recall Henrik Sedin ever being expected to score 2,000 points over his NHL career.

The reality of that time was that the team was a disaster, tickets were easy to come by and cheap (exactly why Burke was trying to hype them up so much - to help sell tickets), and there were not a lot of Canuck fans sold on the idea that a couple of Swedish twins were going to save the franchise.

Sedin's have way, way exceeded their expectations.


Sure King, Burke did that wrangling to secure the 2nd and 3rd pick for a pair of second line guys. Do you honestly believe the crap you spew?

How about what Central Scouting and Atlanta's GM had to say then.....

While slightly smaller, Daniel is the better goal-scorer and enters the draft as the top-rated European prospect by NHL Central Scouting. At only 18, he played in the Swedish Elite League, finishing 13th in scoring. He also represented Sweden at two World Junior Championships, totaling five goals and five assists at the 1999 tournament.Considered the better playmaker, Henrik is right behind his brother as the second-ranked European prospect.

"They're very good players. They're special players, independently or together," said Don Waddell, general manager of the Atlanta Thrashers, who own the second overall pick. "I'm very high on both players, I've seen both players many times.
"The Sedins we're not going to see for a couple of years. We want to make sure we don't oversell that fact," he added. "But I think if you ever got both Sedins you could set your franchise up for a long time. I think they're going to be great players individually, but together, what a marketing ploy you could have for 10-12 years."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/1999/draft/news/1999/06/25/nhldraft_preview/index.html


Oh, there was hype King. The expectations were very high for the Sedins. The future of the franchise high. Which is why so many here turned on them when they weren't the immediate impact they wanted and expected.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

Yeah,Kassian,how old were you in 1999?
Old news?
How many of you were as old as the Canucks as a franchise?


What?
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

I have no idea what you are talking about,but,I agree that you do sound like a complete idiot which brings me back to my question and the one King originally asked: How old were you in 1999?


Lol why should I tell you how old I am, It's my personal information.

But to give u an idea of range I am currently in between the ages 16 - 26.

Now can u explain to me how you can possible think Coho had higher expectations than the Sedins did? Cause I would love to hear your response.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

I have no idea what you are talking about,but,I agree that you do sound like a complete idiot which brings me back to my question and the one King originally asked: How old were you in 1999?

All hail his mighty 'King' or off with your head!
...I think King can speak for himself...and honestly, he's better off that way.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

I have no idea what you are talking about,but,I agree that you do sound like a complete idiot which brings me back to my question and the one King originally asked: How old were you in 1999?


That's the denial of a terrible liar if I've ever heard one. Cool story King
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

All hail his mighty 'King' or off with your head!
...I think King can speak for himself...and honestly, he's better off that way.


He forgets to sign out of his duplicate account so sometimes he defends posts he made as King as nuck nit. Such a tool
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:25 PM

But to give u an idea of range I am currently in between the ages 16 - 26.
Now can u explain to me how you can possible think Coho had higher expectations than the Sedins did? Cause I would love to hear your response.

Ok,you are not the complete idiot as you say you are.
I am not in on your conversation of expectations between CoHo and the Sedins.Not sure why you think I am ,because I am not.
I would point out that hockey in 1999 was not the media or information available age it is today.
We would read the Hockey News and the local papers like the Sun and the Province and wait for that five minute slot at 6:49 each and every night for the sports news with a few minutes of hockey.
Sports Page was all the buzz and TSN did not even have major NHL coverage as CBC controlled all broadcast rights.
There was no internet in the Southern Gulf Islands where I lived.Period.
I would say there was far more coverage and media attention available to fans in 2008 over 1999.
Fans would be able to follow the team more intimately in 2008 over 1999.
There was a lot of buzz over the Sedins and CoHo.
I would say they were different because of media coverage and the internet age but top ten picks are always media hysteric events.
Numbers two and three in the NHL draft with no internet age vs. number ten with internet age?
Thirteen years is a long time ago but there was tremendous interest in Henrik and Daniel.It was just different and limited with no access to 24-7 telecommunications as there is today.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:43 PM

Ok,you are not the complete idiot as you say you are.
I am not in on your conversation of expectations between CoHo and the Sedins.Not sure why you think I am ,because I am not.
I would point out that hockey in 1999 was not the media or information available age it is today.
We would read the Hockey News and the local papers like the Sun and the Province and wait for that five minute slot at 6:49 each and every night for the sports news with a few minutes of hockey.
Sports Page was all the buzz and TSN did not even have major NHL coverage as CBC controlled all broadcast rights.
There was no internet in the Southern Gulf Islands where I lived.Period.
I would say there was far more coverage and media attention available to fans in 2008 over 1999.
Fans would be able to follow the team more intimately in 2008 over 1999.
There was a lot of buzz over the Sedins and CoHo.
I would say they were different because of media coverage and the internet age but top ten picks are always media hysteric events.
Numbers two and three in the NHL draft with no internet age vs. number ten with internet age?
Thirteen years is a long time ago but there was tremendous interest in Henrik and Daniel.It was just different and limited with no access to 24-7 telecommunications as there is today.


Your missing the point (And thanks for continuously calling me an idiot BTW when I said "I feel like one because.." pointing at you and King)

Anyways I understand how it was different, but it's not about who has more hype, who is more coverage or whatever. It is about expectations. Expectations haven't changed since then, there is no different.

For some reason King think Cody Hodgson had greater expectations in this city with this franchise than Daniel and Henrik did. And that's wrong, I'm sorry to say.

And Included you in it because you stood up for him and called us all idiots and told us off, I'm not sure why you are surprised? You agree with King on everything just like you did here.

So now I'll give u a chance to change things and clear the record straight (even though you already made it seem which where you stand on the matter)

So the question is: Who had more expectations? The Sedins who were projected to put the franchise on there backs one day and be our indefinite franchise players, or Cody Hodgson who was thought of as captain material and had the opportunity to maybe be a 1st line center, or atleast a good top 6 center?

That's the question, no need to sidestep just need an answer so I can clear things up.

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 04 January 2013 - 11:44 PM.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

Your question has an personal opinion centric answer.
I owe you nothing.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:09 AM

This message brought to you by the man who would not trade Luke Schenn for 10 1st round picks.

And Burke comparing the hype surrounding the Sedin's to Mario Lemieux and Eric Lindros is utterly hysterical. Not even close, especially in the case of Lindros, who was heralded as the next Gretzky. I don't recall Henrik Sedin ever being expected to score 2,000 points over his NHL career.

The reality of that time was that the team was a disaster, tickets were easy to come by and cheap (exactly why Burke was trying to hype them up so much - to help sell tickets), and there were not a lot of Canuck fans sold on the idea that a couple of Swedish twins were going to save the franchise.

Sedin's have way, way exceeded their expectations.

Wow, it amazes me how one person can write so much crap. If you were speaking this much crap people would be suggesting you wear a diaper around your mouth.

Edited by Vancanwincup, 05 January 2013 - 12:10 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:20 AM

Yet another winner.


What did I win ? Tell me...tell me... nuck nitwit :frantic:
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

Your question has an personal opinion centric answer.
I owe you nothing.


Lol so instead of saying either:

"The Sedin's clearly had greater expectations than Cody"

or

"No I think Cody did for...... reasons"


You chose to take that road, I never said you owed me anything but by your response my guess it that once again you support your King and his view that Coho had great expectation on his than the Sedins.

Jeez you 2 are out to lunch.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:53 AM

Honestly,I am not interested in your argument.
It means nothing to me.
I gave you 30 minutes of my time and explained the different time frames.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:08 AM

Honestly,I am not interested in your argument.
It means nothing to me.
I gave you 30 minutes of my time and explained the different time frames.


Says the guy who can't keep his conversation civil enough to not get posts deleted. How many days do you have left on this board?
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#377 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:14 AM

Honestly,I am not interested in your argument.
It means nothing to me.
I gave you 30 minutes of my time and explained the different time frames.


So..
- You step into the conversation on Kings side.

- I criticize yours and Kings side (Cause it makes 0 sense)

- Then you wonder how you got involved in it.

- So I ask you to clearify what side you are on so there isn't any mistakes.

- And you refuse to do so apparently.

- So I stick with my original assumption that you take Kings side on it too.

This isn't about time frames I asked you to answer a simple question so I could understand which side of the leger your on, I don't know where you are taking this honestly.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:53 AM

Ok,you are not the complete idiot as you say you are.
I am not in on your conversation of expectations between CoHo and the Sedins.Not sure why you think I am ,because I am not.
I would point out that hockey in 1999 was not the media or information available age it is today.
We would read the Hockey News and the local papers like the Sun and the Province and wait for that five minute slot at 6:49 each and every night for the sports news with a few minutes of hockey.
Sports Page was all the buzz and TSN did not even have major NHL coverage as CBC controlled all broadcast rights.
There was no internet in the Southern Gulf Islands where I lived.Period.

I would say there was far more coverage and media attention available to fans in 2008 over 1999.
Fans would be able to follow the team more intimately in 2008 over 1999.
There was a lot of buzz over the Sedins and CoHo.
I would say they were different because of media coverage and the internet age but top ten picks are always media hysteric events.
Numbers two and three in the NHL draft with no internet age vs. number ten with internet age?
Thirteen years is a long time ago but there was tremendous interest in Henrik and Daniel.It was just different and limited with no access to 24-7 telecommunications as there is today.


Don't lump us all into your stone age situation of 1999. Some of us had home computers and the internet even then. I depended on the internet for sports news far more than The Province even at that time. Mainly because I've never been overly fond of The Province sports writers. I also had internet at work back then and was also in an online hockey pool. As a matter of fact I setup my personal hotmail account in '97.

TSN had been around long before '99 (since the mid '80s) covering NHL news and broadcasting NHLgames since the late 80;s. I'll guess you're confusing them with SportsNet which went on air around '99. CBC had sole rights to Saturday games and the playoffs, but even that changed around '89 with TSN broadcasting two of the 1st round playoff series, typically the matchups not featuring a Canadian teams. Which is to say TSN was in fact doing major NHL coverage long before '99.

Edited by Baggins, 05 January 2013 - 04:01 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:16 AM

Now King says LIndros was heralded as "the next Gretzky" muahahaha!

And I suppose Yakupov is hailed as the next Patrick Roy!

Still waiting for some credible quotes King - posts on the Botox boards written four years after the draft don't qualify.


I gave you some - why don't you provide some quotes from people other than the General Manager who have an interest in selling tickets that suggest that they were going to be franchise players?

And yes, Eric Lindros was perhaps the most hyped player ever. You're showing your inexperience if you suggest otherwise.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:21 AM

How about what Central Scouting and Atlanta's GM had to say then.....

Oh, there was hype King. The expectations were very high for the Sedins. The future of the franchise high. Which is why so many here turned on them when they weren't the immediate impact they wanted and expected.


Don Waddell is also the guy who drafted Patrik Stefan over either Sedin, so it's pretty obvious what he really felt. His vague and meaningless quote could be applied to anyone drafted in the 1st round. I guess except for the "marketing ploy" part (LOL), which is how a lot of people in Vancouver felt about the transaction.

Stefan and Brendl were the two most hyped prospects of that draft. The Sedin's were not. Good second-line players were their projection.

Edited by King of the ES, 05 January 2013 - 06:27 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 07:25 AM

Don Waddell is also the guy who drafted Patrik Stefan over either Sedin, so it's pretty obvious what he really felt. His vague and meaningless quote could be applied to anyone drafted in the 1st round. I guess except for the "marketing ploy" part (LOL), which is how a lot of people in Vancouver felt about the transaction.

Stefan and Brendl were the two most hyped prospects of that draft. The Sedin's were not. Good second-line players were their projection.


With this quote you should take your own advice:

You're showing your inexperience if you suggest otherwise.


Anyone who knows anything significant about this franchises's history pre 2000 Knows Burke made a deal with Wandell that he wouldn't take either Sedin in exchange for the 1st overall pick.

Rick Dudley in Tampa Bay had the 1st Overall Pick, and was determined to draft Daniel Sedin, after a series of profane conversations Burke was able to convince him that "no one is leaving Boston with the Twins expect me" as he said and that's what he did, he paid a huge price to do it and got the job done, he then wanted to pick them at the same time so he delt the 1st to Atlanta to allow them to draft 1st overall and get Stefan in exchange for the 2nd overall pick and a 3rd round pick.

Sedin's were the most hyped and highest rated prospects in the draft, they were expected to be franchise players. And certainly had more expected of them than Hodgson.

Actually the Sedin's were the most overhyped prospects, Alot of people including Burke weren't all that impressed with Brendl. It was widely regarded as a weak draft year, and looking back at the rest of the 1st round that is clearly obvious. Burke himself said they were looking at trading the pick since Brendl or Stefan didn't appeal to them, niether did the Twins at a point, but then they got named to the mens world championship team as young players which is extremely rare especially in european countries so they decided to go watch and from then on were determined to get these players, Burke did alot of tough wheeling and dealing as it is well publicized.

And this is all off track anyways, still waiting to hear your explaination on how Cody is our best prospect since Linden and how he had more expectations than the Sedins.




Edit: Oh and just to futhur prove my point, I was able to dig this up, it's from HF on them when they were still young prospects/younger players:

Daniel

Future:
This guy can be pretty much how good he wants too. If he decides to improve his defensive game he should be a 40-goal two-way forward. Kind of Steve Yzerman but on the wing and with unproven leadership skills. He is loyal to his team and always work hard, on every shift. The only thing to worry about is if he can play without his twinbrother, Henrik. They have played together their entire career and they are likely to need some time to adjust to playing with other guys. But with all the skill and hockey knowledge that he possesses there's no reason why he shouldn't be a top NHL-forward for many years to come.


He was expected to be a top line scoring player even without Henrik.

Henrik

Future:
Overall a more complete player than his brother but without the scoring touch that Daniel possesses. If he improves his shot, and starts to use it more he could turn into a 25-goal, 50 assists 2nd line C. He'll also provide some terrific plays on special teams, both on PP and PK. And as with his brother, he can be how good he wants too. He has all the skills to be on the top line in the NHL for many years. The only thing to worry about is if he can play without his twin brother, Daniel. They have played together their entire career and they are likely to need some time to adjust to playing with other guys. He's a loyal teamplayer and he's more of a leader on the ice than his brother.


So obviously when he say's he could be a 25 goal 50 assist 20 C (I'm not sure in who thinks a 75 Point player is a 2nd liner by the way) He referring to if he was on his own without Daniel.

Then he acknowlodges that with his brother there is no reason why he can't be a top line NHL player.

As you can see the expectation was there that they could be top line NHL player's together and they even Daniel to be one alone, since we got them together, they were surley expected to be 1st line players one day and carry the franchise once we got them togther.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:27 AM

Now King says LIndros was heralded as "the next Gretzky" muahahaha!

And I suppose Yakupov is hailed as the next Patrick Roy!

Still waiting for some credible quotes King - posts on the Botox boards written four years after the draft don't qualify.

This actually is quite true. Lindros was the first player to have the moniker "The Next One" attached to him. The fact that he was so heralded allowed his often questionable choices: refusing to play for 2 teams that drafted him (the Greyhounds and Nordiques).
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:21 PM

Don Waddell is also the guy who drafted Patrik Stefan over either Sedin, so it's pretty obvious what he really felt. His vague and meaningless quote could be applied to anyone drafted in the 1st round. I guess except for the "marketing ploy" part (LOL), which is how a lot of people in Vancouver felt about the transaction.

Stefan and Brendl were the two most hyped prospects of that draft. The Sedin's were not. Good second-line players were their projection.


You thinking it doesn't make it historically accurate you know. Research is your friend.

I do agree about Lindros being overhyped though which would probably be the first thing you have ever said that I agreed with.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:22 PM

And clearly Burke made all those moves to make sure he had 2 of the top 3 picks so he could acquire two brothers to anchor the 2nd line......lol. I am not a fan of Burke at all but he went balls to the wall to get the Sedins. He did what any GM wished they could have done that day. Bottom line.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

And clearly Burke made all those moves to make sure he had 2 of the top 3 picks so he could acquire two brothers to anchor the 2nd line......lol. I am not a fan of Burke at all but he went balls to the wall to get the Sedins. He did what any GM wished they could have done that day. Bottom line.


Bottom line is that Waddell had the chance to take either Sedin. He chose Patrik Stefan instead. The big decision for Waddell at the time was whether he was going to take Stefan or Brendl. A lot of people felt that NYR were the big winners of the whole ordeal because they got Brendl at the #4 spot, who many felt had 1st overall talent (73 goals in 68 games in the WHL that year).

Second-line is what most thought the Sedin's were. And those expectations really didn't change until 2009. A lot of short-term memories on this site, wow.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:08 PM

This actually is quite true. Lindros was the first player to have the moniker "The Next One" attached to him. The fact that he was so heralded allowed his often questionable choices: refusing to play for 2 teams that drafted him (the Greyhounds and Nordiques).


Yep. Lindros was amazing. NHL Network did a pretty good documentary on him that I would encourage all to watch. He was basically so good, so much better than everyone else at both the OHL and the NHL drafts, that he could afford to dictate the terms of his career.

NHLPA owe a great deal of thanks to Lindros, who knew how valuable he was to a team and refused to be compensated any less than what he felt was fair.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:27 PM

Bottom line is that Waddell had the chance to take either Sedin. He chose Patrik Stefan instead. The big decision for Waddell at the time was whether he was going to take Stefan or Brendl. A lot of people felt that NYR were the big winners of the whole ordeal because they got Brendl at the #4 spot, who many felt had 1st overall talent (73 goals in 68 games in the WHL that year).

Second-line is what most thought the Sedin's were. And those expectations really didn't change until 2009. A lot of short-term memories on this site, wow.


Second line is what many FANS thought. I beg to differ as to what the majority of the GMs thought. You also have to factor in that the Sedins collective value - ie. them both going to the same team - was significantly higher than their perceived value individually. Although both were still projected as top line players individually.

Waddell either was not willing or did not have the assets to do what Burke did to get both. And drafting anyone - even top 5 picks - is not an exact science. There could have been any number of reasons Waddell chose Stefan but I would bet not one of them was that he did not highly covet the Sedins.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:39 PM

While it seems obvious in hindsight, here are some things that were said about Stefan at the time.......


“He is a big, strong play-maker who sees the ice very well,” said John Van Boxmeer, coach of the Ice Dogs. “The early consensus from scouts is that he could be the first overall pick next year in the NHL Entry Draft.”

“He is going to be a dominating, play-making center,” Van Boxmeer said of the 6-foot-3 195 pounder. “He is a guy who looks to make the play rather than shoot himself. He’ll be a guy who can get 100 assists and 20-25 goals in the NHL.”

“Patrik is a world-class player,” said LA Kings General Manage Dave Taylor. “He is a good skater, a tenacious player, very skilled with the puck and possesses excellent size, strength and work ethic.”

“I have followed Patrik’s progress since December of 1995. The impression he left with me then and throughout the various tournaments I have seen him play, is that he is the brightest young prospectdeveloped in the Czech Republic since Jaromir Jagr, ” said Bob Owen of RHO Hockey, a scouting agency.

“He is a cross between Mike Modano and Sergei Fedorov,” said coach Boxmeer.

Finding this took me about 5 minutes.......research is your friend.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:44 PM

And when Kassian starts producing in the NHL this year, I can't wait to see what King has to say. Go on King reply with another boring rebuttal.
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The key difference is that Sopel can fill in for Seabrook and Campbell just fine. Bieksa, he is garbage so in that sense he is like the worst defenseman in the league.


When Cody (Hodgson) gets older, he might be better than Datsyuk.


Let's not push this guy (Kassian). He's still immature, and if he fails on the 2nd line it's because he isn't ready. Some guys really need years to develop, it's how well and how fast players adapt to the game. In my opinion, I'd rather have Horvat getting 2nd line minutes. He will start off on the 3rd line next season but I see him making the transition, being a great compliment to whoever plays his wings.

At this point, I don't see Kassian fitting in to any role other than a 3rd. If players like Kassian start getting 2nd line minutes then we just stay inconsistent as a team.


The idiocy on CDC....

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:53 PM

And when Kassian starts producing in the NHL this year, I can't wait to see what King has to say. Go on King reply with another boring rebuttal.


Time will tell. Kassian still has some work to do, most notably between the ears in regards to decision making and commitment to being the absolute best player he can be. The physical tools are all there.
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