Erik Karlsson Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Even if Lu got the starting job back, the pressure would come back and I'm sure the mental lapses will start coming again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeM85 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 IMO, Luongo hit his prime in 06/07; his first year in Vancouver. I have not seen him as sharp and skilled as he was that season. Still, a great goalie today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckCup1316 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Its too early in this season to tell in Luo will continue at this pace. To be able to say that he is in his prime still we will have to wait a couple of years and look back. The most important thing is he is playing awesome now and that only will help us get what we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Well so far Luongo is putting up career numbers that are smashing his past season's averages, so what's not to say that this season will be his best? The way it's going right now, Luongo is primed for a season like none other he's had. Now in terms of a trade, doesn't it seem rediculous to trade one of the league's best goalies, especially when he's having a personal career best year? You win Cups with goalies who are in their prime - look at what Thomas did. He had a few good seasons, didn't win cups, and had a few really bad seasons where Rask challenged him for the #1 spot. Then he put it all together, drew on his past experiences and put together one of the greatest goaltending performances in NHL history. The way it's going right now, Luongo is headed down this exact same path. His situation right now is eerily similar to the one Thomas was in when he knocked Rask off his #1 position and carried the Bruins to the Cup, which is why I think we should hold off a goalie trade for now, purely because Luongo is putting together "one of those seasons". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckCup1316 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Its too early in this season to tell in Luo will continue at this pace. To be able to say that he is in his prime still we will have to wait a couple of years and look back. The most important thing is he is playing awesome now and that only will help us get what we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I understand. Your right, due to the fact that Cory has never had a full season as an updesputed starter, you can't conclusively say. But from what we have seen, he has proven to be every bit as good. And this year (aside from the Anaheim game) has played just as well as Roberto in equal starts, I think he is starting to show he is fully capable of being a starter and that he will be a top 5 goalie in this league pretty soon. ter. We are 5 games in. If you think he can/would continue to put up these numbers as a full time starter, then I worry about you. Well everything Cory has shown thus-far states he is a very very good goalie. He's just waiting to break out as an undeniable star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If you look at his post history, that's all he ever talks about. He loves Luongo, and has even claimed that the Canucks wouldn't even make the playoffs if they used Schneider at one point. I also very rarely see him back up his posts and reply to criticism. So it's pretty much spam at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 He has been in his prime for a long time, and he still is in it. Make no mistake about it though, Lu is still the one going, Cory has just entered his prime, is already at Lu's level (ability wise) and still has upside. It would be a big mistake to trade Cory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Ive said this probably a dozen times here but If MG and brass had any doubts about whether Schneider could handle the load or whether he is ready to take the reins he'd be playing the majority of the games now. I just roll my eyes when i hear people say Cory's not ready..he hasn't proven enough.. Well what the hell more do you want him to prove in a backup role? He's proven it in the AHL, he's proven it in the backup role with exceptional numbers. what more are people expecting to see jeesh. In my mind Cory gives us equal goaltending to Luongo right now with the potential to be better down the road.. It ain't about anyones resume..its who gives us the best chance now and in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I wouldn't say he's in his prime. Not every goalie plays their best at his age... that being said, I think Luongo is still Luongo. He's still a starting caliber goaltender and he can steal the odd game for us. With Chicago and Toronto doing well so far this year, I don't really see Luongo getting traded yet. I'm pretty unsure if he'd waive his no trade clause to go to Florida at this point ,as they're in the bottom of the basement. I'm fine with holding onto Luongo unless we can get a really good return for him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Even if Lu got the starting job back, the pressure would come back and I'm sure the mental lapses will start coming again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thema Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 . Now we've all seen how good Luongo was in the first season here in Vancouver, putting up record numbers and carrying a very bad team to the playoffs. He was fairly consistent after that, but now that he's coming into his prime he's putting up numbers far greater than ever before. The characteristic slow starts for this guy are over, and this could be a sign of things to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehamburglar Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Keep him this season, see what happens. He should be in the playoffs this year with us, another chance for the cup, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 He has been in his prime for a long time, and he still is in it. Make no mistake about it though, Lu is still the one going, Cory has just entered his prime, is already at Lu's level (ability wise) and still has upside. It would be a big mistake to trade Cory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 A "very bad team"? Really? And Saint Lou took the whole team on his back and singlehandedly took us into the playoffs, right? Then you say he was "fairly consistent" after that, completely ignoring the fact that we MISSED THE PLAYOFFS the next year with your savior posting a terrible .880ish save % down the stretch when it counted. So, by your logic, he singlehandedly made us miss the playoffs that year, right? Or are you going to do a 180 degree flip and tell us that suddenly "it's a team game". The only consistent thing about Lou in the regular season is that he plays his very best hockey between New Year's day and Easter which is exactly where we are at now. He is playing softball games against lousy teams and is under no pressure; AV (and likely MG) are coddling him as per usual. If he goes thermonuclear in the playoffs I'll gladly recant but it seems that the last 5 or 6 years of playoff disappointment have taught the legions of Lou groupies nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Cory isn't quite at Lu's level - he's shown himself capable, but remember, he's never played more than 33 games in a season. That's a light load so far. Also, Cory doesn't have Luongo's pedigree, not even close. In Lu, you have: Presidents' Trophy winner, two World Championship golds, World Cup of Hockey gold, Olympic gold. Also, Lu was taken 4th overall vs. Schneider at 26th. Luongo's junior numbers are I think better (keep in mind, he played in junior leagues while Schneider played in college). Schneider still has plenty of runway, but he's not at Lu's level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovekevinbieksa Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 yeah he's at the end of his prime. i dont want him to leave but would surely leave us a lot of cap room. If we were to trade him, Id suggest that we wait until we absolutely know that we cant win the cup anymore, because i think we all know we have a better chance at the cup with luongo starting, and schneider there to back him up IN THE PLAYOFFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 How many times has this dead horse been beaten, risen from the dead as a zombie horse, beaten again and again and again and again....... Cory Schneider is a talented goalie. Roberto Luongo is a talented goalie. They are both great NHL goaltenders, and help the team win most nights. Sooner or later one of them will leave. The one left behind will play well for the Canucks, like he always has. The End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferlands_Head Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Firstly, this is not another Luongo trade thread, it's something no one has even mentioned or discussed yet. Right now, Luongo sits at 2nd in all of the league in terms of GAA and Save % at career bests of 1.53 and 0.940 respectively. Sure, he's only played a handful of games, but the last time he went through a stretch better than this was the 2 consecutive seasons where he put up 3 shutouts in a row. So is Luongo just starting to hit his prime this season? He's only 33 years old, which is usually around the time goaltenders tend to hit their best patches of play. It historically takes far longer for goalies to hit their prime than skaters, and Luongo is bang in that goalie-prime age. Brodeur is 40 now but had his best-ever season when he was 34 (48 wins, an NHL record). Tim Thomas had one of the best seasons ever by a goaltender after a few ups-and-downs in his career when he was 36. Now we've all seen how good Luongo was in the first season here in Vancouver, putting up record numbers and carrying a very bad team to the playoffs. He was fairly consistent after that, but now that he's coming into his prime he's putting up numbers far greater than ever before. The characteristic slow starts for this guy are over, and this could be a sign of things to come. Obviously it would be the worst move in hockey if MG were to trade Luongo during the prime of his career - trading an all-time top 10 NHL goaltender at any time would be a mistake, let alone in his prime. So my question is, is he just starting to play the best hockey of his career or is that long gone and over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 He was at his prime in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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