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#1 raymondsplayoffbeard

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:21 PM

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Apperently an NHL hit is 17% harder than an NFL hit, even though NHL players are 20% smaller.
I found this pretty interesting.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:25 PM

wonder where they get this info from. pretty neat if true
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:25 PM

Interesting. I've love to see their methodology to come up with that stat.

If it's true, I would think it has a lot to do with the protective gear football players wear that takes a lot of the energy from the hit. Of course, that's not really applicable to the NHL because without face shields the NHL is already at the limit of the amount of protective gear they can allow the players to wear.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:26 PM

Makes sense considering the speed of being on skates and getting hit into the boards. I wonder what would be harder though, a really hard blind side hit like Gryba on Eller or a blind side safety hitting a wide receiver helmet to helmet.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:31 PM

Interesting. I've love to see their methodology to come up with that stat.

If it's true, I would think it has a lot to do with the protective gear football players wear that takes a lot of the energy from the hit. Of course, that's not really applicable to the NHL because without face shields the NHL is already at the limit of the amount of protective gear they can allow the players to wear.


Like Butterbean said, I think it has to do with the fact that a hockey player is moving at a much higher speed than a football player.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:39 PM

Like Butterbean said, I think it has to do with the fact that a hockey player is moving at a much higher speed than a football player.


Yeah, I guess. But hockey players are often not going full speed when they deliver a hit and football players do tackle one another while running.

Would be interested in reading the report on it.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:42 PM

Speed, as most people mentioned. Also many NFL hits are blocks/hits, whereas NHL hits are just hits. i wonder if this is an average or what.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:42 PM

Yeah, I guess. But hockey players are often not going full speed when they deliver a hit and football players do tackle one another while running.

Would be interested in reading the report on it.


I would imagine that they take an average from both sports.

Also, I would assume that the fact that a football player's equipment being better at absorbing force to be not pertinent. My guess is that they measure the force at point of impact, rather than the actual force to the body.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:46 PM

what i was wondering if it's a bump or a full on open ice hit. would be nice to know where they got that from
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:31 PM

Hockey and rugby are probably the toughest "mainstream" team sports.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:33 PM

would be interesting what hipsters watch for sports if there are 'mainstream sports' but i guess they're sports that we've never heard of
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:57 PM

My first thought was when did Espn and science start coexisting?
I am assuming the apocalypse is on the way.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:00 PM

But football hits are way bigger



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:09 PM

Anyone having any luck finding any more information? I've checked ESPN but can't find any reference to it that stat.

Apparently, Sport Science is "The Emmy Award-winning TV series, hosted by John Brenkus, uncovers sports' biggest myths and mysteries by using cutting-edge technology to measure momentum, friction and the laws of gravity." So, they may have just compared a hit of each kind somehow and decided they were good enough to stand in for all hits in each league, rather than having actually done research during real games to get a decent data set from real hits.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:15 PM

That's a pretty unscientific statistic. What hits are they talking about?

Obviously a hard NHL hit is harder than a hard NFL hit because the guys are moving that much faster, and you see the oftentimes far more devastating results of those hits. But those big ones are few and far in-between in the NHL. Most guys aren't throwing open ice hits at a high enough speed to make up for the gap in size compared to NFL players, in addition to the fact that most hits in the NFL have the guy charging right into his target or slamming him into the ground, not coasting into him like the majority of hockey hits.

Edited by Witchcraft and Sedinery, 03 May 2013 - 05:17 PM.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:48 PM

Ive always said football players were a bunch of wimps
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