Merci Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Flip flopping merci strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magician Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I know you're being sarcastic, but wtf was Bieksa doing on that play? He didn't take the pass away OR the shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 You only name the bad things Gillis did. Garrison? Roy? Signing players for cheaper than market value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkSniper Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 This thread is worse than that tie goal yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Mitchell: injured. Salo: out of playoff. Samuelsson: has played 5 games this year. 1 playoff game; 2 shots, 2pims, 11min TOI, and -1. Torres was a mistake. I'll give you that. Otherwise: Booth: injured. Ballard: out b/c of AV. Raymond: playing okay. Not as bad as everyone wants to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyacry Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 This thread is worse than that tie goal yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Careful. He'll challenge you to a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Mitchell, Cup Salo, best +/- on team Sammuellson, injured 10 less games than Booth Torres, GWG in game 2 vs Vanocouver Canucks I don't care how you cut it, he's taken a great team, made it amazing, then made it perennial 1st round exit prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Mitchell: at the time, was coming off a concussion that had kept him out for a very long time, we had no certainty he would play again. Definately a risk not worth 3 ish million Salo: again very injury prone and even older then Mitchell. Not worth 3.5 for a deal longer than 1 year Sammuelsson: He only played 4 games in the regular season. How can he possibly be injured 10 games less than Booth, unless Booth played -6 games this season? Torres: I'll give you that. Booth: If he wasn't injured, he'd be better than Sammuelsson Ballard: Is fine. AV is stupid for not using him Raymond: Torres is the only one I 'd rather have than Raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Ahem, so in your mind Booth,Ballard and Raymond is > than Mitchell,Salo,Torres,Samuelsson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 That doesn't change the fact that Mitchell won the cup and Salo is the best D on his team. Gillis cannot evaluate players and it shows by the success of ppl we cut. This cannot be refuted lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I agree that we'd be better off with those players. But I definitely disagree that its MG's fault. Mitchell: was coming off of a serious concussion, unsure if he'd be 100% again. It was unrealistic to expect MG to offer $3.5m again under the circumstances, but LA did and it paid off for them. Salo: 2 years, $7.5m at his age? There was no way MG could match that with the logjam on defense. If he did, people would slam it as a boneheaded move for a 38-year old. I love Salo, but at that money, it wasn't happening. Samuelsson: could you honestly say last season that you wouldn't have traded Samuelsson (and Sturm) for Booth? Now it may look bad, but a year ago its 35 year old Samuelsson for 27 year old Booth, a young power forward. Easy decision. Torres: this one, I do wish MG had re-signed, and he could have done it after the 2011 season. That's the only one you could really go back and say was possible. Hindsight is great, but there's no way you can tell me that if you were in Mike Gillis' place at the time you had to make the decisions on Mitchell, Salo, and Samuelsson that you would have acted differently. You might regret things now, but looking back they're all no-brainers. No use pining over what could've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyacry Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Right now? Yes. Mitchell's career is basically over because of injury. Salo is made of glass. and Samuelsson played 4 games this season. Booth is injured but at least he played 12 games, Raymond is serviceable, and Ballard should be in this team's top six. Corrado should not. In their prime, those 4 were better than the 3 we have, but those days are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 I agree that we'd be better off with those players. But I definitely disagree that its MG's fault. Mitchell: was coming off of a serious concussion, unsure if he'd be 100% again. It was unrealistic to expect MG to offer $3.5m again under the circumstances, but LA did and it paid off for them. Salo: 2 years, $7.5m at his age? There was no way MG could match that with the logjam on defense. If he did, people would slam it as a boneheaded move for a 38-year old. I love Salo, but at that money, it wasn't happening. Samuelsson: could you honestly say last season that you wouldn't have traded Samuelsson (and Sturm) for Booth? Now it may look bad, but a year ago its 35 year old Samuelsson for 27 year old Booth, a young power forward. Easy decision. Torres: this one, I do wish MG had re-signed, and he could have done it after the 2011 season. That's the only one you could really go back and say was possible. Hindsight is great, but there's no way you can tell me that if you were in Mike Gillis' place at the time you had to make the decisions on Mitchell, Salo, and Samuelsson that you would have acted differently. You might regret things now, but looking back they're all no-brainers. No use pining over what could've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyacry Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I agree that we'd be better off with those players. But I definitely disagree that its MG's fault. Mitchell: was coming off of a serious concussion, unsure if he'd be 100% again. It was unrealistic to expect MG to offer $3.5m again under the circumstances, but LA did and it paid off for them. Salo: 2 years, $7.5m at his age? There was no way MG could match that with the logjam on defense. If he did, people would slam it as a boneheaded move for a 38-year old. I love Salo, but at that money, it wasn't happening. Samuelsson: could you honestly say last season that you wouldn't have traded Samuelsson (and Sturm) for Booth? Now it may look bad, but a year ago its 35 year old Samuelsson for 27 year old Booth, a young power forward. Easy decision. Torres: this one, I do wish MG had re-signed, and he could have done it after the 2011 season. That's the only one you could really go back and say was possible. Hindsight is great, but there's no way you can tell me that if you were in Mike Gillis' place at the time you had to make the decisions on Mitchell, Salo, and Samuelsson that you would have acted differently. You might regret things now, but looking back they're all no-brainers. No use pining over what could've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Booth, being paid 4.25mil and not even in the line up...Raymond, completely invisible for past 2 games. Ballard, I agree he should be in top six but doesn't do too well without Tanev. Now, although Salo is injury prone he still provides a great shot and adds depth. Mitchell's ring says hi. Samuelsson logged 13 goals, 15 assist is 48 games in 11-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrrFour Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Raffi fans are forgetting that he was tainted at the end of our Cup run. He had a rep as an out of control, over the edge player due to his hits and suspensions. Remember his hit on seabrooke? On top of that, he wanted third line money. J Hansen makes $1.35 mil and Raffi makes $1.75 mil. I'm sure he would've been welcomed back by the canucks as a 4th liner, but Raffi found a team that wanted him as a 3rd liner so the canucks couldn't afford him. They chose higgins, hansen, raymond, booth. He got his hitting under control and the nucks wanted him too since his contract is up after this season. Who would you prefer on our third line next yr tho? Raffi: 18 pts in 39 games this yr -$1.75 mil Hansen: 27pts in 47 games -$1.35 mil Higgins: 15 pts in 41 games -$2.5 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auvixa Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 With complete bias, I'll say I miss Salo. At least his consistency was rock-solid. Remember when he won that one game for us against the Sharks last time they met in the play-offs? Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Needz moar out of control Torres I'm pretty much sick of fringe players and Swedes. Bring on the rebuild and do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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