infinitecarnage Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 And keep him because of his toughness? He hasn't shown toughness consistently for quite a while (pick and chooses his moments) some puck bunnies also like his arrogant stance on the interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Steen will not keep this ridiculous pace up. Just look at his abnornally high shooting %. He will regress. The question is how much. I could easily picture him being a reliable 30 goal scorer. I coukd also easily picture him going back to hisbold self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Mo Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I live bieksa when he plays with a sense of urgency and intensity. When he's mr relaxed he is like a poor mans jay boumeester but smaller and not as skilled. When kev and edler go into their "relaxed" gear they are awful and they seem to think they're the 2nd coming of Nicklas lidstrom or something while they do it. This is one of the reasons I've proposed getting Matt carkner and John Scott to pair up with them. They would have a lot of pressure to carry the pairing and be forced to play with urgency at all times. They would also probably be braver and alot more physical while the heavyweights would add some much needed hardcore physicality and intimidation back there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl's Jn Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 All things aside.. would you make the deal today? yes we need the help up front.. have to unload on a d... perhaps trade edler for steen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone1 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 yes we need the help up front.. have to unload on a d... perhaps trade edler for steen... I wouldn't trade Edler. He's our GQ on the team. The type of player who can rock Khakis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I wouldn't trade Edler. He's our GQ on the team. The type of player who can rock Khakis. I'd rather a player who can be in the lineup and not hurt the team. If St Louis are stupid enough to trade Steen for Edler Gillis should be fired on the spot if he declines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I would absolutely not have traded Bieksa for Steen then or now. Bieksa provides something on the back end that nobody else does and nobody coming up will. Plus, Bieksa is one of those character guys in the room that you need and that this team arguably needs more of. I think Steen will come back to Earth soon enough and perform on the level he has most of his career. He isn't an elite player, it'll show eventually. Those numbers that he has posted for much of his career are indicative of what the Blues really have with him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 if I was mg, I would go try to get schenn( if he was drafted yet/ 1st round draft pick) I would of done it steen L schenn for bieksa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 if I was mg, I would go try to get schenn( if he was drafted yet/ 1st round draft pick) I would of done it steen L schenn for bieksa And wth would Toronto do that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Bieksa takes on the dopey ogre named Boyle..boots his helmet for good measure! What happens? He kick-starts a winnin-streak.. Let's face it, the boys love his leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmer Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I still would not do it because Juice means too much to this team with all of his heart and much needed toughness and character as well as leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmer Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 if I was mg, I would go try to get schenn( if he was drafted yet/ 1st round draft pick) I would of done it steen L schenn for bieksa Well they probably would not have at that time but now they desperately need a shutdown dman like Bieksa with all of the chances they are giving up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
si robertson Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Glad we didn't do that trade. I mean yea steens having a goo year, but every year there's players who have a good year, then they have too much expectations after. Still not sold on steen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone1 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Heart and soul my ass. Where has it gotten the Canucks so far? Did he do anything when the Sedins got Marchand? How about when Daniel got Keith'd. Or when Luongo got Brown'd. Or How about tonight when Lack got Duck'd??? He's been on ice for 10 goals against 5 on 5. He's always injured and he's always casual Kev. Trade him before anyone else realizes what a turd we have in our top D pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Heart and soul my ass. Where has it gotten the Canucks so far? Did he do anything when the Sedins got Marchand? How about when Daniel got Keith'd. Or when Luongo got Brown'd. Or How about tonight when Lack got Duck'd??? He's been on ice for 10 goals against 5 on 5. He's always injured and he's always casual Kev. Trade him before anyone else realizes what a turd we have in our top D pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Heart and soul my ass. Where has it gotten the Canucks so far? Did he do anything when the Sedins got Marchand? How about when Daniel got Keith'd. Or when Luongo got Brown'd. Or How about tonight when Lack got Duck'd??? He's been on ice for 10 goals against 5 on 5. He's always injured and he's always casual Kev. Trade him before anyone else realizes what a turd we have in our top D pairing. Oh, just the Stanley Cup Finals...no big deal, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Toronto can try all it wants to make itself feel better about losing yet another deal. Their misery desperately needs company. But the difference here is that the Leafs had Steen - and they shopped him...for Stempniak. The Canucks on the other hand opted not to deal the young defenseman who, alongside Willie Mitchell, composed their shutdown pairing and was puting up a whole lot of offensive production in the process. The Canucks really have no second guessing to do. They kept their homegrown talent. The Leafs on the other hand... We may as well be asking whether we would deal Bieksa for Lee Stempniak? It's about as relevant at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tavares Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 There's too much clutch in him to trade for Steen the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockeye Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 A few years back Bieksa was the CDC whipping boy and you all wanted him traded. And Rey is correct, these comparisons to Cheechoo are unfair, the guy had serious knee injuries which ruined his career. respect to the guy for trying to come back from injuries such as that. As for this trade I can see why some of you wouldn't of done it back then as Steen wasn't fully developed. If that trade was offered now I would do it. Bieksa is an ok defenseman who does get sheltered by his partners. And keep him because of his toughness? He hasn't shown toughness consistently for quite a while (pick and chooses his moments) OK, so who is our toughest D man if it isn't Bieksa? Edler, Hamhuis, Garrison, Tanev, Stanton (but I do like the toughness Ryan brings)? Gimme a break! And for all the Ehrhoff lovers out there, I could never understand why Ehrhoff just stood there watching as Daniel Sedin was crushed into the boards by the Sharks' Ben Eager in the playoffs in 2011. Bieksa would've come to his defense if he was on the ice. Here is the link to the video of the Eager hit: If we ever give up Bieksa, we'd better replace him with a big, tough and skilled D man. Me, I want to see Juice retire as a Canuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The trade at that time would have been an awful trade for Canuck fans up until this year. This year could be an anamoly or it could be Steen reaching his potential and continue on but if that trade was taken back then, CDC would have had a meltdown. There is no way that was a fair trade back then for the Canucks. Also, am I the only one that finds it kind of funny that Steen at the age of 24 gets traded and at the time Toronto fans called him a bust but at the same time CDC is jumping on Kassian at the age of 23 saying he will never be anything but a fourth liner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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