Rush17 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 New Jersey Devils recieve: Chris Tanev Brandan Gaunce (swap him with any c or b- prospect) Vancouver Canucks recieve: Damon Severson 1st Round Pick (16-20 range likely) This gives NJ help perhaps uniting Chris Tanev back with Cory will help his game. They were the two youngest players on our 2011 team and continued to be teammates until Cory was traded. PerhapsTanev's steady play and possible friendship can help NJ out. Severson has apparently been a scratch for a few games these playoffs. He's is less than a year older then Bo. Right handed D. Excelled early on in his career. Played hockey in the whl born in Sask. Very steady good puck moving D having some struggles in the post season. Might be worth a flyer plus a topic pick. I got a feeling a player of higher potential may be required than Gaunce but Severson does have a big contract so factor that in. (5 years @ 4.166 mill left at the start of next year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 I am assuming they were good buddies being the only 2 young guys on the team during our peak and the years that followed. I could see Lepisic being a guy they like. But I would rather trade Baertschi. Maybe a bigger deal of Tanev + Baer for Severson + 1st + 2 x 3rd gets it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I think that is reasonable value. My only concern would be that we'd be a defensive mess. Gudbranson can't handle the workload or even requirement of being a shutdown guy, so we've have to find someone else to be our matchup guy against the opposition's top lines. I do think this would be a step towards a blueline that can actually score though, which is a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brobidus Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I like the idea of trading the pair of Tanev and Baertschi. And I always thought that NJ was prime for a couple of trades. They addressed that this trade deadline. I do have a small couple of issues with the proposal. NJ is on the upswing and they are looking to add to their young guys. Trading Damon Severson who is one of the guys they lean on D for Tanev is counterproductive. They'd probably want both of them on the team. At the moment they have Vatanen and Severson as the two top righties, and so I suppose it makes sense to switch with Severson. Still, for the time that Tanev is injured, they don't really have anyone that can replace Tanev's minutes, and acquiring Tanev to take Lovejoy out of the line-up is more of a trade deadline luxury than a good move for them, even if it'd be awesome to see a Butcher-Tanev pairing. They're also pretty set at LW at the moment. The time to trade Baertschi, or even Gaunce for that matter has passed. The emergence of Bratt, the trade for Graber.. I don't think we are good trading partners. On that note, I'd love to have Severson. I don't think he is available and if he is, then Tanev might not be enough to get Severson alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Brobidus said: I like the idea of trading the pair of Tanev and Baertschi. And I always thought that NJ was prime for a couple of trades. They addressed that this trade deadline. I do have a small couple of issues with the proposal. NJ is on the upswing and they are looking to add to their young guys. Trading Damon Severson who is one of the guys they lean on D for Tanev is counterproductive. They'd probably want both of them on the team. At the moment they have Vatanen and Severson as the two top righties, and so I suppose it makes sense to switch with Severson. Still, for the time that Tanev is injured, they don't really have anyone that can replace Tanev's minutes, and acquiring Tanev to take Lovejoy out of the line-up is more of a trade deadline luxury than a good move for them, even if it'd be awesome to see a Butcher-Tanev pairing. They're also pretty set at LW at the moment. The time to trade Baertschi, or even Gaunce for that matter has passed. The emergence of Bratt, the trade for Graber.. I don't think we are good trading partners. On that note, I'd love to have Severson. I don't think he is available and if he is, then Tanev might not be enough to get Severson alone. Yeah I never would of proposed this if it hadn't been for the fact Ray Ferraro said he had been scratched in these playoffs. Which is mind-blowing to think in the playoffs at the start of the season given their lineup . Maybe he just needs a reset and the scratch will help him focus. I don't know the extend of the scratching one game or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Sounds like the biggest knock against Severson is "poor hockey instincts". Poor decision making. Tanev would help their porous defense, if he can stay healthy. Are they willing to gamble a 23 year old with some upside and a 1st for a guy that has played 70+ games in a season once in his career, that brings less offense than the guy you are shipping out, and he brings next to no physicality? Maybe we can throw them Hutton instead of Gaunce. Lol. And Severson has only been scratched for one of the 2 games the Devils have played. Which is still bad but for the sake of being accurate there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Sounds like the biggest knock against Severson is "poor hockey instincts". Poor decision making. Tanev would help their porous defense, if he can stay healthy. Are they willing to gamble a 23 year old with some upside and a 1st for a guy that has played 70+ games in a season once in his career, that brings less offense than the guy you are shipping out, and he brings next to no physicality? Maybe we can throw them Hutton instead of Gaunce. Lol. And Severson has only been scratched for one of the 2 games the Devils have played. Which is still bad but for the sake of being accurate there's that. Appreciate the scratch insight. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 nah i'd prefer to trade for schneids and keep tanev to help shneids here and move our goalies (or one of them) to nj in return along with whatever else i might take 2 years of schneids mentoring demko would be a very good thing 2 years of them sharing the crease somewhat evenly would burn off schneids contract or he could be moved in year 3 as well if demko is solidly ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundstrom17 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Rush17 said: New Jersey Devils recieve: Chris Tanev Brandan Gaunce (swap him with any c or b- prospect) Vancouver Canucks recieve: Damon Severson 1st Round Pick (16-20 range likely) I don't think NJ would trade their first or Severson. Just like Brobidus said " Trading Damon Severson who is one of the guys they lean on D for Tanev is counterproductive. " New Jersey Devils recieve: Chris Tanev Vancouver Canucks recieve: Santini, Steven & Lucia, Mario or ,Mcleod, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, Sundstrom17 said: I don't think NJ would trade their first or Severson. Just like Brobidus said " Trading Damon Severson who is one of the guys they lean on D for Tanev is counterproductive. " New Jersey Devils recieve: Chris Tanev Vancouver Canucks recieve: Santini, Steven & Lucia, Mario or ,Mcleod, Michael Pass. If it were my decision. They probably don't want to give up on him yet. But who knows Shero is known for making deals if he feels it helps his team. Tanev probably ends up elsewhere tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundstrom17 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Pass. If it were my decision. They probably don't want to give up on him yet. But who knows Shero is known for making deals if he feels it helps his team. Tanev probably ends up elsewhere tho. Give up on who? And as i recall it was your decision to trade Tanev. I just made it more acceptable from NJ's point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, coastal.view said: nah i'd prefer to trade for schneids and keep tanev to help shneids here and move our goalies (or one of them) to nj in return along with whatever else i might take 2 years of schneids mentoring demko would be a very good thing 2 years of them sharing the crease somewhat evenly would burn off schneids contract or he could be moved in year 3 as well if demko is solidly ready 11 I would assume the price for Schnides would be something in the realm of Bo Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Rush17 said: New Jersey Devils recieve: Chris Tanev Brandan Gaunce (swap him with any c or b- prospect) Vancouver Canucks recieve: Damon Severson 1st Round Pick (16-20 range likely) This gives NJ help perhaps uniting Chris Tanev back with Cory will help his game. They were the two youngest players on our 2011 team and continued to be teammates until Cory was traded. PerhapsTanev's steady play and possible friendship can help NJ out. Severson has apparently been a scratch for a few games these playoffs. He's is less than a year older then Bo. Right handed D. Excelled early on in his career. Played hockey in the whl born in Sask. Very steady good puck moving D having some struggles in the post season. Might be worth a flyer plus a topic pick. I got a feeling a player of higher potential may be required than Gaunce but Severson does have a big contract so factor that in. (5 years @ 4.166 mill left at the start of next year) I like your trade. I have my own opinion that Tanev may not command that return at this stage? Played only half the games. Had 11 points? They also could elevate Santini who is a younger version of Tanev IMO. So paying an asset like a first might not make sense? Severson on the other hand, is in Santini's way for TOI. Severson is a decent target. They also have Vatanen & Butcher to handle the puck. So his use as a puck handler, point getter is diminished. A good target for them to move. How about Baertschi for Severson? - They could use a 2LW / 3 LW with Grabner moving on. He fits their play style. - We could use a RH PMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Sundstrom17 said: Give up on who? And as i recall it was your decision to trade Tanev. I just made it more acceptable from NJ's point of view Tanev would never go for those pieces. Totally unrealistic from Vancouver's perspective. If that were the case Vancouver would just find a different trade partner. McLeod's ok but we don't really need what he is. Plus Tanev has more value then McLeod. Others are not worth our time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 54 minutes ago, hammertime said: I would assume the price for Schnides would be something in the realm of Bo Horvat. no bloody way nj has lost confidence in schneids he is diminishing bo is still improving they got 5 years of schneids peak performance years he is not the asset he was and nj knows it they went with another goalie the first 2 playoff games they have made it clear what they think of schneids current value as a result, his present contract, is a bit of anchor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundstrom17 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 7:00 PM, Rush17 said: Tanev would never go for those pieces. Totally unrealistic from Vancouver's perspective. If that were the case Vancouver would just find a different trade partner. McLeod's ok but we don't really need what he is. Plus Tanev has more value then McLeod. Others are not worth our time. Tanev would go for those pieces... realistically. You are overvaluing Tanev. LIke what Canuck Surfer said ``Tanev may not command that return at this stage? Played only half the games. Had 11 points?`` Yes he is worth more to us then to any other team, but his injuries have probably brought his value down. McLeod is what we need... a scoring center (a 1st round pick) is exactly what we need. Santini (who should have been a 1st round pick) is a hard-hitting, shut-down top prospect defenseman. Maybe brush up on NJ`s prospects before you assume they aren`t good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Why not trade Tanev in a package for Schneider and create a goaltending controversy once Demko is up to speed??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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