John_Guest

Which makes you suspect that's where a trade is most likely to come from. My guess is Garland. He's the most likely to get something back and he's my favorite (which means he's probably doomed.) Garland gets traded, Hoglander moves up. My prediction.

Vancouver squeaks into the playoffs and goaltending steals the first round.

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I think a few people on this thread owe Jake an apology.

Ee lie ess and Eh lee ahs.

I'll tell you a trade that nobody ever thinks of because it sounds too stupid out of the gate, but give it a little thought and see how it solves the problems of both teams. OEL for Chris Tanev. Right across. Just kidding? Maybe not.

I blame the NHL schedulers. This is 2 seasons in a row the Canucks have been stiffed with the toughest early schedule in the league.

There are players that could be available outside the draft like Jake Livingstone or Andrei Kuzmenko. The east coast smarty pants talk like they would be out of our reach. I want to snag them just to prove the right people wrong.

The Canucks were all over Ottawa all night. They deserved to win. But they didn't. Oh well...these things happen. Canuck luck, didn't get the bounces and all that.

I'm worse. Until I looked it up I thought it was Dallas we were chasing. Same division. Wrong conference.

Basically, yeah, except your 7s are typos, I think. Should be 8s. And LA plays Chicago the same knight we play Vegas but if both LA and Vegas lose it all comes out the same as you say. Petty bitches, I know but somebody had to be the anal schlep to point it out so I volunteered.

Seems like yesterday the Rangers announced they were going for a full rebuild. And our guys couldn't decide what they were doing. Now they're where they are and we're where we are.

I think most fans have at least one they're hoping will buck the odds. For me it's Woo. I keep hoping he's advancing under the radar. He's a defensive defenseman so we wouldn't necessarily hear much about his progress. I don't remember hearing much about Tanev until he kept on coming up, then next thing I knew he stuck.

Boeser for Boqvist is interesting. Might need a draft pick as a sweetener with Boqvist but maybe not. He should be getting the defence side of his game down soon. Sure, give em' Poolman and Dickinson if they want 'em. Doesn't matter. Gain a little cap. But what's with those other two from Columbus? Was that the price for taking Poolman and Dickinson or something? But Rathbone and a first? How much are the Blue Jackets paying you to try to sell that one?

We can catch Edmonton. We need Dallas to lose a few games. Anybody know some good Voodoo hexes?

But not if you trade Halak, right? But after next year, those buyouts are gone too, right? Are you absolutely sure that in that time period the solution couldn't take place elsewhere? I mentioned OEL and Myers but is their nowhere you can lose cap elsewhere that would be better than a dump Miller and Horvat solution?

Generally, perhaps, but this year? https://www.capfriendly.com/ Nashville, Anaheim and Columbus look to be in the hunt with lots of cap space. The Rangers seem to be doing all right too.

As an example, if the bosses could somehow make a trade that relieved the cap hit on OEL or Myers the hope would be it would create cap space to sign the 3 forwards and find cheaper OEL and Myers replacements in the off or maybe next season. But that's just an example to show you what I mean about into the future. I'm not locked into the OEL, Myers thing. Just something I think about.

Here a thing I'm thinking too: When people are talking these giveaway trades to get rid of cap on Boeser, Miller, or Motte they're talking about making moves to help next year and into the future. I'm looking at some of the answers above and some seem to be under the misconception I'm wondering about how things are affected this season. Not the case.

Yeah, I was thinking maybe somebody might need defensive help in the playoffs and have the money to take a risk. So future considerations for OEL and Trade for not much with Myers. Maybe we could make an Arizona style trade with somebody else for OEL, only not give away as much as they did.

Isn't Halak also gone at the end of this year? Do these bonuses somehow affect the cap next year? And yeah the Ferland thing is something I don't understand. I don't think anybody is expecting Ferland to come back between now and 2023 when his contract ends. So why does he count against the cap? Is there not even some sort of cut?

I don't post a lot of threads. The reason being, I don't know as much about hockey as the rest of you wizards. I don't want to embarrass myself. So think of this as more of a bunch of questions and hopefully you can help me out. As I understand it we have cap problems and that leads us to want to look at guys like Miller, Boeser, or even Motte for a trade. But I look at Cap Friendly and I don't see the cap problem. There's nothing for cap there now but isn't this the year we lose the Luongo recapture penalty? CF says that's 3million. I don't understand why LTIR doesn't factor into this. Sutter's out with a contract coming next year, so he's gone at the end of this season, right? That's a mill. It's pretty had to imagine Ferland coming back, so how does that work? Where does that 3.5 in cap go? Has it already been discounted? I don't know what the situation is with Hamonic but even it he does come back, at this point why not just give him away to lose another 3 mill. How much of that 10.5 million in cap space could we actually lose if that's what it really is? Speaking of giving away players, I like OEL but if we're talking crappier contracts than we'd be giving Boeser, Miller or Motte, there's one. At this time he seems more like an aging competent defensive, defense man. That nice but couldn't we find one of those a lot cheaper. If we can't trade OEL could we give him away and keep his 7.2 in cap space, maybe replace him for 3 or 4? Then there's Myers. I'm starting to like Myers but he's 6 mill in cap space. Would I trade Myers for Miller? I would. Especially if something cheaper could be found to replace him and factor in what we could get for him. So why not use what we could make from a Myers trade to give Miller a raise? And if I'm reading Cap Friendly correctly don't we get another 2.4 million in dead cap for Virtanen and Holtby at the end of next year? I must be missing something. They tell me Rutherford is a pretty knowledgeable hockey man and he says there's a cap problem, so what am I missing?

Question: We got Spencer Martin from Tampa Bay for future considerations. In this case, what does that mean? Does his price go up now that he's playing so well in the NHL? When do they decide?

One has to wonder why he didn't then.

Well yeah...but you still don't get what I'm saying. It won't be Jasek or Karlsson replacing Motte. It would be admittedly less so but the same problem as replacing Miller with Karlsson. There's a glaring quality difference. The circumstances in Vancouver at this moment are such that there's no skill or price advantage to slipping either of those two in to replace say Chiasson, Highmore, Bailey or Dries. My point in comparing Jasek and Karlsson was Jasek couldn't make the cut and there's no reason to think that's changed so the same thing would go for Karlsson.