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Just now, stawns said:
Depends what they do in the playoffs
Pens unlikely to make it past the first round. Same thing for the Isles, if they even make it to the post-season.
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I just want draft picks.
Unless Carolina comes out of nowhere and gets Miller by giving up Morrow.
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2 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:
I think it went like this...
Allvin phoned around to see what he could get for either JT or Bo.
He offered both of them team-friendly deals. Last year Bo was a 60-70 point player and JT was an 80-90 point guy.
Returns for JT weren't what the team wanted and he took a somewhat team friendly deal.
Bo didn't take the deal and bet on himself. He focused on his personal scoring more this year and won big. We got a good return for Bo.
So I don't think that there was some big mistake made.
JT at 8 mil x 7 years is perfectly fine. Dylan Larkin is not as prolific of a scorer and got 8.5.
I still think management mis-judged the state of this team. The dollar amount on Miller's contract is fair, it's the term that's the problem. That on top of inheriting OEL's contract - you've got problems.
So eat the mistake and trade Miller.
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2 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said:
After McGinn clears waivers (In case he's claimed and then he just gets removed from the deal) it will be Miller and Burroughs for Pettersson, McGinn, Pickering and a 1st.
Penguins clear Pettersson, McGinn and Zucker is a FA next year, so they have more than enough to take on Miller's contract.
Stop teasing us like that.
...but yes please. I want that 1st round pick. Mid-round pick since Pens are likely to get knocked out in the first round.
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2 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said:
Like Vancouver?
Unfortunately yes.
Let's just hope that Allvin and Rutherford are willing to admit their mistake, as they did with Stillman.
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2 minutes ago, BobbyClarke said:
Damn….can we just sign EP40 now. At this rate he’s going to cost us $15mX8
Lol Petey is not going to get paid more than McDavid.
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If teams are willing to sign their star players to this kind of a deal, there should be a least a few teams willing to take on Miller's contract.
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As an aside, watching Nashville and Washington pivot as quick as they are...
Makes me wish our management had the balls to do that back in 2012-2015...
The amount of picks Nashville has been able to accumulate in such short amount of time doesn't happen unless you have the self-awareness that success requires patience, even in spite of a Finals appearance not too long ago.
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4 minutes ago, stawns said:
So then there's no cap savings for van. What's the point?
Yeah I don't like the idea of the Canucks retaining in any trade. We need as much cap space as possible to sign Petey, he's due for a huge payday.
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6 hours ago, cripplereh said:
Ok for one OEL when QH was out played pp1 better then QH.
Buying out him and getting rid of Myers saves you 13 mill.Well would cost you that much getting two D men to replace them.
Me wait till summer after the draft and trade Myers before seasons start.Or tdl next year.
OEL with a better partner will be fine for two to three years.Last two or three years then but him out of he gets worse.
We need to bring in Johansson and try he m with QH or OEL.Get another rhd in trade or ufa.
Draft a top three rhd thus year and try him preseason. There are ways to get our D core better next year.
^This
Too early to say that OEL won't work under Tocchet.
I'd like to see what OEL can do in a more stable environment with a better D-partner. Is he ever going to play to the level like he did when he carried Arizona's defence for all those years? Probably not, but I think he can still be a reliable 4th defenseman quarterbacking PP2 once in a while.
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1 hour ago, eeeeergh said:
Man this OEL contract just sucks so bad.
No matter how you slice it, a buyout is just so painful. The two seasons where the cap penalty is greatest are also probably the seasons we want to make a serious run in the playoffs - all our core pieces will be in their primes.
Idk how they work their way out of this one.
I still think there's the possibility for him to thrive in a less chaotic Canucks team under Tocchet. He certainly doesn't carry the play and may never play up to what he's getting paid, but there's hope for a sub-optimal outcome.
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18 hours ago, mll said:
He should call up Bobby Lou.
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Please not Garland. He's thriving under Tocchet.
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2 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:
lower pressure role for 7.2 Million, please
I think it's the best we can do out of a crappy situation. Not claiming it's ideal by any means.
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I still personally believe OEL can thrive in a lower-pressure role.
Chaos giraffe hasn't exactly been conducive to his play.
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I know Canucks are desperate for RHD, but Hughes, POJ, OEL down the left side is makin me drool.
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Entice Schenn with the team captaincy to come back in the summer.
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16 minutes ago, Outsiders said:
No terrible deal. Pettersson is overpaid and a LHD
His contract is meh, but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's overpaid.
That being said, if this rumour holds true, we better be getting a draft pick as well.
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2 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:
Hamhuis had a NTC and was only willing to waive for Dallas.
Dallas knew and was offering a 5th rounder from what I remember.
Happy we didn't make that deal and also satisfied with this one!
I think my argument still stands. The theme behind my argument is complaining about not making a trade even when the reported offer was incredibly low, and then proceeding to complain about a trade in similar fashion but with a higher return.
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Just now, Steven Stamkos said:
Staying in Canada will be easier on medical records for his new kid too.
This is a good point.
If the Canucks are going to make a case to Schenn to re-sign with them in the off-season, Allvin and Co. will want to do the best they can to accommodate for Schenn's situation. By doing that, you potentially ending up losing a handful of bidders and driving down the price via less competition.
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Weren't we all complaining when Benning decided to keep Hamhuis because he was only getting offered a single late-round pick for him before he eventually walked in the off-season?
And now we're all complaining for only getting a 3rd for Schenn?
CDC never ceases to amaze me.
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Schenn for Kerfoot, Boston's 1st Rounder and another late round pick.
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11 minutes ago, Devron said:
Lol that return for Chicago. Hopefully the Rangers get ousted
I wouldn't mind seeing the Rangers beat the Lightning if it gets to that point.
As for the lackluster return for Chicago...Kane has a no movement clause. NY was probably the only team he was willing to move to.
Remember the constraints Benning had to work with when trading Kesler?
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7 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:
Agreed. Rutherford wants to make the playoffs next year, so the aggregate trade return / subsequent moves would need to improve the team immediately.
Penguins prospect pool is worse than ours, and they won’t want to trade roster players. Probably why talks cooled off so quickly.
Pens still have most of their draft picks in tact. Hope Rutherford isn't hell bent on turning this team around so quickly and just snags a bunch of those picks.
Besides, Bedard can easily replace Miller....right?
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Bad management, yes. Should we have traded them last year? Yes. Are we begging them to take them? No, they're still positive assets that could help any team trying to make a run.
I wouldn't mind holding onto Boeser if there aren't any attractive deals, not much term on his contract anyways. Probably won't be competitive within his contract's timespan.