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I wish the mods would pin a topic concerning all past draft opinions, maybe even opinions on all past decisions, and posters who want to discuss that would have their stuff moved to that thread. I get it, you're not happy, but don't clog up every thread spewing your drivel, thinking you could do a better job than anyone else. Juolevi is a Canuck prospect; get over it (or move it somewhere else).
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Power Break! (And "2 goals adrift twice was Cardiff")
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I thought I saw him back out a couple times and as the team went off the ice.
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Said it before and got ripped; but Gaunce is going to have a tough time cracking the lineup. Only saving graces were his injury and those players he is in competition with that do not have to clear waivers (Boeser, Virtanen). In my opinion (of course), Burmistrov has played better than Brendan did last year, so he will have to be better than last year to bump Burmistrov. Gaunce probably goes to Utica on a "conditioning stint" and then it will be decision time (barring injuries). Even in Utica, if he clears waivers, would he be the first forward called up?
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Ancient Alien DNA.
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Sure are a lot of Negative Nellis in this thread. Please start another thread like "Hating on Jake" or something and take it over there. Your fake "realism" and "facts" are extremely tiring. You didn't, you don't, and you won't know more than anyone else, so quit pretending. One thing about Jake that I think needs to be reconsidered or at least not stressed so much is this "power forward" thing. Jake isn't going to scare anyone. He doesn't seem to be a fighter. He's not that big; Getslaf and Carter are the new standard for big power forwards. There are a lot of NHL players that are bigger and scarier than Virtanen. I don't think we should hold him to this standard as it holds him back from giving all that he can give. Get those shoulders healthy so he can resume his clean hard-hitting without taking penalties or losing his cool. Threaten to shoot or score with that great speed instead of just racing down and wondering what to do now. Quit pretending you're some tough guy and make the other team take penalties on you with your speed and drive to the net. You know, when Neely started popping 50+/year, Boston didn't want him fighting or taking penalties anymore anyway, he was too valuable. And Jake's not going to be Cam Neely anyway; not at 20, 25, or 28. But he could be Jake Virtanen, a good-sized Vancouver kid that burns up the ice every shift and threatens mayhem in front of the net, in the corners, and along the boards. And Jake could be at least as good as Torres, and he could learn to change the tone of a game. He's gotta get his nose busted trying to drive the play, not finding out there a lot of players tougher than him. He could probably learn a thing or two from trying to play like Geoff Courtnall, fast, gritty, and effective. And Geoff put up a goal or two for us.
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And Gordie: C'mon Olli, aim for the top. Hang with Palmu in the gym and Guddy & Gadget in the ring. Bring it when you're on the ice; even Orr was tough. Put muscle on that Scandinavian frame and bring out your inner Thor. We all know the talents you have now, bring out something new and add to the package. Get angry at anyone who wants to keep you out of the show and take it out on your competition on the ice. Ditch Mr. Nice Guy and bring on an all-pro top-D with attitude and even a mean streak. Take every penalty until you've got a rep like Pronger who could get away with almost anything. Mow 'em down with your slapshot until they're afraid to block it and aim for the goalie's head on your first slapshot of the game. Make room for yourself cuz nobody's gonna give it to you. Etc. Look forward to that rat Marchand pulling that $&!# he did on Salo.
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Palmu is certainly a very exciting prospect and already well-grounded and doing the necessary to be a pro. Do we now have so many good prospects that we can't keep them all in Utica and have to spread them out onto other leagues like the KHL and the SEL? I cannot remember a time when we had so many young players to be excited about. Thanks to Trev and Jim and company; this is so much better. And we now have multiple players in every juniour tourney and even some on Team Canada; I used to hate that when we didn't have anybody. I also noticed Palmu is wearing a "C" or an "A" in many of these clips and he seems like a determined leader even in things like the rafting and the grind. Great kid! I can see him making it to the NHL.
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Your first sentence is supposition, I suppose as I do not know what McPhee has tried to do with, nor what his plans are, for Luca, do you? IMO, Sbisa could be a good 5/6 D-man for Vegas and provide some grit for an expansion team; he is also a good teammate and positive attitude kind of guy. Again, the relative value between Sbisa and Gaunce is not proven nor established by these first few days since LV acquired Sbisa. We know for sure that McPhee chose him over Gaunce at an equal opportunity. Shall we agree to wait past training camp, when the teams have to make their final cuts, to reassess this relative value? If some movement happens before then, perhaps we will get further information. Why trade a 23 year-old? Why trade any asset? Most often because you prefer the return to the asset(s) given up. I would trade Gaunce if the return was right, and I think he would make a good addition to a bigger deal. I think we have a lot of worthy players vying for that 12/13 spot, and if Brendan keeps it and plays even better, we can keep him or we will get even more for him.
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Over-react much Wink? I said I like him, you said "a total bust and write-off". My opinion is that we have a lot of competiton for the 12/13 forward position and he is going to have to perform to get/keep that spot. I also think that he has considerable trade value and could form part of a decent trade. I do not think he would clear waivers, that's why I said nothing about sending him down. I have been watching this team since before they got into the NHL, so put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Goldy's got everything except 'humbility'. He's gotta show deferrence to all the players who have already made the team and develop a classy understated celebration. He's gotta keep his head in the game every second of every shift. I really think working with the Sedins and playing on their line could be the answer for all 3 of them.
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I give more credit to McPhee than you do. The fact that Sbisa hasn't been traded proves little as there is still plenty of time if they don't want to keep him. Whatever Luca's current market value is, it is greater than Gaunce's value as a guy that can't score and can only hope to land a fourth line spot on the second-worst team in the league. In a different thread, I put my opinion that Gaunce is in tough to even make the team this year. He might make it as others are not quite ready and can be sent down without fear of losing them. I like Gaunce, but he always seems out of place as a hockey player, big but not tough, skilled but ineffective, kinda like Taylor Pyatt. I would not be surprised if, even if he makes the team and improves his results, he is not traded. Opinions, we all have, but where LV goes with Luca, and where we go Brendan, will show who has higher value. For now, we know that at least one (real) NHL GM thinks Sbisa is worth more than Gaunce.
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You wouldn't get Sbisa for Gaunce straight up in a trade, imo and that is why LV took the more valuable player. With Goldobin and Dahlen, this year's draft and FAs, added to JB's previous repairs to the Prospect Pipeline, I cannot remember any training camp ever with this much legitimate competition for spots on the starting roster. Every position has quality talent knocking on the door; I can't wait to see which prospects kick down the door. NHL GMs and coaches will give the jobs to proven veterans they can count on, and send down anyone that can be sent down without exposure to waivers etc. I think Goldie has the talent to knock down the door, but (imo) he has to play whistle-to-whistle without stopping to show his disappointment when things don't work out as hoped. For example, when he loses the puck on a breakaway or something, he doesn't go right after it, he stops and demonstrates his frustration. Maybe put Ryan Johnson on him to show that non-stop motor, Dorsett too. Luongo used to do that too and it really bugged me. The most egregious example was in the Stanley Cup Playoffs when The Diva called an off-side but the linesman didn't. LaGongo (Don Cherry) was half-way to the blue line with his arms in the air complaining about the call while the puck was put in the goal behind him. May have cost us The Cup when added to other factors. Point is though, you gotta stay in the game between whistles; there'll be plenty of time to discuss objections once play stops. Along with others above, I thought Goldie and the Sedins looked real good and maybe he can help them attain the success they stated they want to rekindle this season.
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Elias Pettersson reminds me quite a bit of Thomas Gradin. Head up, slowing everything down around him, super aware, super skilled, sublime passing and receiving, and the puck is in the net before the tender realizes what's been done.
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[Please do not use photos in your signature that antagonize Canucks fans (for whatever reason, yours is the only signature that cannot be "ignored"). This is the Canucks forum, not the Cabbie and Escort Beaters apologetics forum. Please change user name and avatar; they are offensive to Canucks fans in violation of the board rules.] I do agree with getting back to the Olli Juolevi topic. In my opinion, Olli is going to make the team. He almost made it last year and was disappointed to be sent down.
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What guy was that? (If you don't mind.)
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We done need no stinkin' Gagner. And this is the Dahlen thread isn't it?
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I agree. Brock is on the team and Goldy's time has come, he is too talented too hold down any more. I think we are (finally) going to see some rooks make the team out of camp (but not Dahlen, he will most likely play in Sweden with Pettersson in the SEL for next season). Jake may make the team if he has a very good summer and shows well in camp.
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[GDT] 2017 NHL Entry Draft
Goal:thecup replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in General Hockey Discussion
Thanks for this. -
[GDT] 2017 NHL Entry Draft
Goal:thecup replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in General Hockey Discussion
Just use their negative comments to identify candidates for the Ignore List. Board just keeps getting better and better without these clowns. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Goal:thecup replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
I'm with you on this. Hague might make the team in a couple years and until then will provide some protection for our young prospects too. We can't leave all these talented little guys to fend for themselves while they learn the heavy pro game. We lost Tryamkin and Sbiza and even when we had them we were considered a powder-puff team to play against. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Goal:thecup replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
With JB saying (something like): he "won't trade up but might trade down, depending on how the first four go", it makes me think he has a deal lined up with (is it Vegas?) the team picking 6th, as 5th and possibly 6th are the only picks he can control by trading down. In other words, if the players JB has rated 1st to 4th best for the Canucks all go before our pick, he may trade it down to 6th, so Vegas can take their guy at 5th, and we take our guy at 6th, plus hopefully something like Vegas' 2nd pick (34th overall, maybe Hagger) (or even better, something mid first round like Liljegren or Foote (but I don't think we'd get that much, maybe Foote.) By trading with the team right next to him in the draft, he can be sure both he and George McPhee get the first first-rounder they each want. Might be the basis of a good trade right there with both sides getting what they want. I am still hoping JB and GM find more common ground and options for the upcoming draft and beyond and develop a good long-term relationship between the cities' teams. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Goal:thecup replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
You're right! Praise the lord, for the Ignore function. Commentary from Screw is something nobody should have to read. -
2017 NHL Draft - Chicago, Illinois June 23-24 2017
Goal:thecup replied to hyper00's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
Wtih McPhee running a protection racket in exchange for draft picks, maybe JB will trade an asset like Tanev to Vegas for a package of these picks they have acquired. See what picks George has, and where Jim wants to pick in the draft, and maybe we can have our cake and eat it too. I think at 5 we will be picking a center even if all 4 before us pick centers. One of these 5: Patrick, Hischier, Vilardi, Glass, or Mittlestadt/Pettersson. I would like to add a defenceman or two like Liljegren and Foote, sort of a one two punch of talent and truculence. Whatever Jim wants, that is what we should receive, from Canuck Alumnus George McPhee... (Who is currently gleeful with this expansion process.)("Time to share, George.")("Think of how hard all those old Canucks worked and tried to win.")("We deserve a break.")("This could be the beginning of a long and fantastic relationship.")("And, can we please have some 2018 first-rounders too?")("Thanks George.")