NUCKS4CUP 28 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 There's seems to be a lot of people here who think so, but I just can't see it. To be honest, he's another one of those players that the CDC overrates to the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityScout Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 he's got my vote!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Edler is good, but he can't be put in the same category as Lidstrom,Chara or Weber..... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsey Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Edler 48 points (11 goals, 37 assists) 3 +/- 5 PPG 17PPA 1 SHG Weber (75 GP) 49 points (19 goals/30 assists) 19 +/- 10 PPG 12 PPA 2 SHG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacare Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 hes good but hes not quite there yet. to be in that catagory you have to have the ability to take over a game, like karlsson, chara, lidstrom etc. hes got the potential to be that kind of guy, we'll just have to wait and see if he gets there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bissonnette Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 imo Edler is in the 3rd tier of the top 10 nhl dman. Tier 1: Weber Chara Lidstrom Tier 2: Pietrangelo Karlsson Letang Tier 3: Keith Edler Doughty Hamhuis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnstar Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 imo Edler is in the 3rd tier of the top 10 nhl dman. Tier 1: Weber Chara Lidstrom Tier 2: Pietrangelo Karlsson Letang Tier 3: Keith Edler Doughty Hamhuis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Wilson Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 imo Edler is in the 3rd tier of the top 10 nhl dman. Tier 1: Weber Chara Lidstrom Tier 2: Pietrangelo Karlsson Letang Tier 3: Keith Edler Doughty Hamhuis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raph Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Edler has the tools and has shown to be elite in small spurts. But even on a Canuck team, if the game was on the line, I'd be putting Hamhuis out there. Rock solid consistency is the trademark of a great defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 It's hard to know where to draw the line that separates elite from not elite. But Edler is probably a top-10 defenseman in the League. I think he fits amidst the third-tier D of the League's defensemen. Here's a rough sketch of what I see as the D hierarchy: The top group includes the perennial Norris candidates: Lidstrom, Chara and Weber for sure, and maybe now Pietrangelo as well The second group includes guys just below that level, who maybe aren't quite as complete as the the players in the top group or aren't quite as consistent: Keith, Doughty, Karlsson and maybe Suter Then there's the third group, which is where I would put Edler. This group includes guys who may be excellent offensively but so-so defensively, and guys who may be all-around studs but lacking elite skills. Along with Edler I would include: Yandle, Byfuglien, Boyle and maybe Phaneuf (it's hard to know where to draw the line here - a lot of guys could fit). Thanks to Edler's consistent improvement, I see him being in the second group by next year, if not this year's playoffs. At times he plays like he's already there. But at other times he can be lackadaisical. The thing about Edler is he has all the tools and attributes to be a perennial Norris candidate. He's got the size. He's got the skill. He's got the athleticism. He could be in the top group one day. He just hasn't put it all together yet. I would say that if he's not yet elite, he's on his way to becoming that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danthecanucksfan Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Edler is making his way there, this guys next year could be his explosive season. Eventually this guy will become the #1 guy on our blue line. He will be among the elite in a short time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 No, but he has the potential to - has to beat the odds to really become one. Just 1 year younger than Weber, and look at the difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanbieksa Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 To be considered a franchise d-man you have to play for the team for many seasons, so if he resigns this summer for lets say four seasons he'll be considered a franchise player. And elite wise he's not consistent enough to be namned elite, but give him two more years and he'll be able to develope the weaker aspects of his game(defensive). Then he'll be considered elite, right now i'd say he's top 15 amongst defenders, and top-5 is elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Edler is an entirely different player come playoff time. He knows when to step it up. It's finding that consistency during the long season that separates him from the elite. But when playoffs hit, it's hard to watch him and not think he can be up there with best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashi Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 A few more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksftw0205 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I love Edler, but I don't think he's considered elite quite yet. He's got so much going for him, but his defensive game could use a bit of tweaking. He's improved that side in the last few games, though. Definitely well on his way to being legitimately labelled as elite, especially with his improvements year to year. I also wish he'd dish out those monstrous hits more frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 2 different comparisons. Franchise players are ones that basically "make" a franchise (ie/ Nash, Kovalchuk etc). Elite level athletes are distinguished as models of high level consistency (ie/ Thornton - point a game over career vs. Cheechoo - one 56 goal year) AND as a general consensus by GM's (in other words Claude Giroux is more valuable to Philly - and therefore THEIR fans may consider him elite - than he would be to us...a third line centre - not to say he wouldn't be awesome to have!). Based on that criteria, Edler is certainly NOT a franchise player...we don't have or need a "franchise" player to make this team great...it's a collaborative effort. However I believe he is definitely zeroing in being an elite level defenceman, and if ever he got to free-agency, I believe that tag would be affixed by most GM's as well and therefore he would be compensated accordingly. It'll cost us to keep him, but I believe that MG would also consider him elite in a couple years and would pay (and fit under the cap = move to make him fit) to keep him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22Sedinery33 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Another few more years, he has the tools right just a matter of him maturing and utilizing it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 2 different comparisons. Franchise players are ones that basically "make" a franchise (ie/ Nash, Kovalchuk etc). Elite level athletes are distinguished as models of high level consistency (ie/ Thornton - point a game over career vs. Cheechoo - one 56 goal year) AND as a general consensus by GM's (in other words Claude Giroux is more valuable to Philly - and therefore THEIR fans may consider him elite - than he would be to us...a third line centre - not to say he wouldn't be awesome to have!). Based on that criteria, Edler is certainly NOT a franchise player...we don't have or need a "franchise" player to make this team great...it's a collaborative effort. However I believe he is definitely zeroing in being an elite level defenceman, and if ever he got to free-agency, I believe that tag would be affixed by most GM's as well and therefore he would be compensated accordingly. It'll cost us to keep him, but I believe that MG would also consider him elite in a couple years and would pay (and fit under the cap = move to make him fit) to keep him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 2 different comparisons. Franchise players are ones that basically "make" a franchise (ie/ Nash, Kovalchuk etc). Elite level athletes are distinguished as models of high level consistency (ie/ Thornton - point a game over career vs. Cheechoo - one 56 goal year) AND as a general consensus by GM's (in other words Claude Giroux is more valuable to Philly - and therefore THEIR fans may consider him elite - than he would be to us...a third line centre - not to say he wouldn't be awesome to have!). Based on that criteria, Edler is certainly NOT a franchise player...we don't have or need a "franchise" player to make this team great...it's a collaborative effort. However I believe he is definitely zeroing in being an elite level defenceman, and if ever he got to free-agency, I believe that tag would be affixed by most GM's as well and therefore he would be compensated accordingly. It'll cost us to keep him, but I believe that MG would also consider him elite in a couple years and would pay (and fit under the cap = move to make him fit) to keep him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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