Wetcoaster Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 It's like talking to a wall but here it is, again; a. it WAS negotiated with the clear understanding that if the province pulled out it would be on the hook to repay the 1.6 b. Gordon Campbell and his government said he wasn't contemplating introducing the HST before the election and they weren't. Yes, they had researched it and yes the pros and cons were looked at. It was decided that although it was an efficient system the cost to implement was too great. After the worldwide credit collapse of 2008 provincial revenues were severely impacted. This factor is of no small consequence to the budget. It was in fact devastating. They were searching for ways to meet their budget targets without cutting core services in the face of a deteriorating financial situation. Then, Ontario negotiated a deal with Ottawa that would see the feds pay the provinces transition costs. When the BC government learned of this and that the province would have the power to set its own tax rate, to shape the tax regime with flexibility that would allow them to exempt certain goods and services from being taxable, and that the federal government was offering $1.6 billion in "transition funding" to make the change, it decided to adopt the HST. At that point it was announced that British Columbia would move towards a Harmonized Sales Tax,or HST. Seems straight forward and transparent to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 OMG I laugh at anyone arguing in favor of any tax. We should now focus on getting the PST reduced and preferably gone. How about No PST and No GST. IT's Our money. Your Money. Then you will see job creation. How about no tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Went to the liquor store today. It sucked. Other people in the store were pissed. That makes a lot of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Brilliant. Of course, you could have done that anyway, without the 3 billion dollar price tag for the mulligan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Bc Liquor stores did not change prices as per http://www.bcliquors...eady-return-pst So - who got pissed and over what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Don't go to BCL, went to the private store a block away from my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hominid Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Only dumbfracks who took first year accounting and macroeconomics think HST is good. Get an actual degree then talk undergrads. Thank god they took this crap away. Retards who eat up the governments bull are so sad. Obviously ronthecivil and Wetcosters minds have slowed so much they can't even use what they paid to learn to think objectively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 So you consider it crap that BC wages and the cross border shopping have any impact on real cost of items in this province? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Only dumbfracks who took first year accounting and macroeconomics think HST is good. Get an actual degree then talk undergrads. Thank god they took this crap away. Retards who eat up the governments bull are so sad. Obviously ronthecivil and Wetcosters minds have slowed so much they can't even use what they paid to learn to think objectively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I had a wonderful lunch today. Chicken salad w/tomato,olives and feta. And a little Greek Feta dressing (just a pinch, it's very high in fat) And it was cheaper than the same meal last week. Thank you Gordon Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Only dumbfracks who took first year accounting and macroeconomics think HST is good. Get an actual degree then talk undergrads. Thank god they took this crap away. Retards who eat up the governments bull are so sad. Obviously ronthecivil and Wetcosters minds have slowed so much they can't even use what they paid to learn to think objectively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 ...and your credentials include? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Just a reminder on who's responsible for B.C.reverting back to the PST. The HST referendum succeeded only because of Gordon Campbell, who lowered the vote’s requirements. The referendum would have failed under the rules of B.C.’s Recall and Initiative Act. The act requires half of all registered voters in the province to vote in favour of change, a benchmark the HST referendum did not meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 If the government was so pro-HST why didn't they just say it's 10% from the get go. Instead of a political promise (and we know how those go) that it would drop to 10%. 10% HST would probably have swung the vote right there. (Save 2%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 It's like talking to a wall but here it is, again; a. it WAS negotiated with the clear understanding that if the province pulled out it would be on the hook to repay the 1.6 b. Gordon Campbell and his government said he wasn't contemplating introducing the HST before the election and they weren't. Yes, they had researched it and yes the pros and cons were looked at. It was decided that although it was an efficient system the cost to implement was too great. After the worldwide credit collapse of 2008 provincial revenues were severely impacted. This factor is of no small consequence to the budget. It was in fact devastating. They were searching for ways to meet their budget targets without cutting core services in the face of a deteriorating financial situation. Then, Ontario negotiated a deal with Ottawa that would see the feds pay the provinces transition costs. When the BC government learned of this and that the province would have the power to set its own tax rate, to shape the tax regime with flexibility that would allow them to exempt certain goods and services from being taxable, and that the federal government was offering $1.6 billion in "transition funding" to make the change, it decided to adopt the HST. At that point it was announced that British Columbia would move towards a Harmonized Sales Tax,or HST. Seems straight forward and transparent to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Now some of you will trot out the vanderzalm bs, and tell me how great the HST is, spam the boards with the same old information, yadda yadda, that's all irrelevant. This is a Liberal policy failure. The Liberals introduced it, the Liberals did an absolutely horrible job of selling it, explaining it and defending it, and it was voted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 OMG I laugh at anyone arguing in favor of any tax. We should now focus on getting the PST reduced and preferably gone. How about No PST and No GST. IT's Our money. Your Money. Then you will see job creation. How about no tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 OMG I laugh at anyone arguing in favor of any tax. We should now focus on getting the PST reduced and preferably gone. How about No PST and No GST. IT's Our money. Your Money. Then you will see job creation. How about no tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 His credentials seem to include making a new account after being banned previously it would seem given his familiarity with myself and Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 OMG I laugh at anyone arguing in favor of any tax. We should now focus on getting the PST reduced and preferably gone. How about No PST and No GST. IT's Our money. Your Money. Then you will see job creation. How about no tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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