Master 112 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 2) Doppelgänger - Aligned With Townspeople: Doppelganger - Role proposed by DralHas a one time use of each of the powers of the regular TP special (1 Doctor Save, 1 Vig Kill, 1 Sheriff Investigation)May use their abilities at any time they see fit but ONLY gets one of each special power. Just for confirmation, does this mean the Doppelganger can use more than one power in a single round? Link to comment
Go Faulk Yourself Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Just for confirmation, does this mean the Doppelganger can use more than one power in a single round? I think they shouldn't be able to, no. At least that's what I thought. Link to comment
Aladeen Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Just for confirmation, does this mean the Doppelganger can use more than one power in a single round? I think they shouldn't be able to, no. At least that's what I thought. I was actually working under the presumption that they are able to use any or all abilities in any given round. Link to comment
Dral Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I kinda think the Lackey should be enough to offset the Doppelganger as the Doppelgangers abilities are 1 time only while the Lackey can use their ability every round. KP + Lackey vs Sheriff, Doc, Vig, Doppel ? edit: 1st turn investigation for KP and Doppel can only use 1 ability per round. Link to comment
Alchemy Time Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Mafia doc seems a bit OP imo. What if we did Doppelganger vs. Lackey+Mafia Nurse (save every two rounds)? Link to comment
Go Faulk Yourself Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Lots of discussion still as to where we want this to go. I'd say if we don't have any concrete decision on the matter, we should go with "Watcher Vs. Lackey" as our alternative. Link to comment
Aladeen Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Mafia doc seems a bit OP imo. What if we did Doppelganger vs. Lackey+Mafia Nurse (save every two rounds)? Hmmmm, makes sense, I think I do like that better. Gonna head home and think about it on the way. I will make my decision in a little bit. Link to comment
Dral Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Mafia doc seems a bit OP imo. What if we did Doppelganger vs. Lackey+Mafia Nurse (save every two rounds)? That still seems a bit OP for the mafia. I think that would be more fair if the Doppelganger could use their ability more then once for each for each special, but right now only having 1 kill, 1 save and 1 investigation vs having 1 block every round seems more fair edit: 1 invs, 1 vk, 1 save vs 1 block every round and 1 save every 2 rounds seems OP Lots of discussion still as to where we want this to go. I'd say if we don't have any concrete decision on the matter, we should go with "Watcher Vs. Lackey" as our alternative. agreed. Link to comment
CanucksLegacy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Mafia doc seems a bit OP imo. What if we did Doppelganger vs. Lackey+Mafia Nurse (save every two rounds)? Hmmmm, makes sense, I think I do like that better. Gonna head home and think about it on the way. I will make my decision in a little bit. Don't know if this has been addressed but would you be able to stockpile saves? Ie. Don't use Mafia Nurse Save first 4 rounds (2nd round, 4th round -> eligible to use save but don't) so would it be stockpiled? Link to comment
Dr.Strangelove Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Don't know if this has been addressed but would you be able to stockpile saves? Ie. Don't use Mafia Nurse Save first 4 rounds (2nd round, 4th round -> eligible to use save but don't) so would it be stockpiled? I dont think you would be able to as no other special can Link to comment
VICanucksfan5551 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I kinda think the Lackey should be enough to offset the Doppelganger as the Doppelgangers abilities are 1 time only while the Lackey can use their ability every round. KP + Lackey vs Sheriff, Doc, Vig, Doppel ? edit: 1st turn investigation for KP and Doppel can only use 1 ability per round. The downside to the lackey is that they don't start off in contact with the mafia and have to block their own teammates to get in contact with them most of the time. Link to comment
Alchemy Time Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The downside to the lackey is that they don't start off in contact with the mafia and have to block their own teammates to get in contact with them most of the time. That's up to the discretion of the host I believe. Link to comment
Dr.Strangelove Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 So if the Mafia doc was to save someone would it be revealed that it was the Mafia doc vs TP doc. Right now if PPCLI is targeted by the Vig but is saved by the TP doc it would say that PPCLI was saved by the Doctor. So if PPCLI was targeted by the SK but saved by the Mafia doc would it say that PPCLI was saved by the Doctor or the Mafia Doctor? Link to comment
Go Faulk Yourself Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ok then, since Aladeen is coming home, and roles will be handed out in the coming hours. Lets get a clear idea of what we want. 1) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Kingpin (Investigation is now in the 1ST Round) and Mafia Doctor (Same rules as normal Doctor) 2) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Lackey (In contact with Mafia right away) and Mafia Nurse (Can only save every two rounds) 3) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Lackey (NOT In contact with Mafia right away) and Mafia Doctor (Same rules as normal Doctor) 4) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Kingpin (Investigation is now in the 1ST Round) and Mafia Nurse (Saves every two rounds) EDIT: Just feeling that Doppleganger will be TOO OP if it can use all 3 Roles in 1 RD. Link to comment
Go Faulk Yourself Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 So if the Mafia doc was to save someone would it be revealed that it was the Mafia doc vs TP doc. Right now if PPCLI is targeted by the Vig but is saved by the TP doc it would say that PPCLI was saved by the Doctor. So if PPCLI was targeted by the SK but saved by the Mafia doc would it say that PPCLI was saved by the Doctor or the Mafia Doctor? I'd say, for the fun of the game and making things A LOT more interesting, it doesn't reveal which Doctor saved who. Link to comment
Dr.Strangelove Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'd say, for the fun of the game and making things A LOT more interesting, it doesn't reveal which Doctor saved who. That's how I would like it be because if it says that someone was Mafia doc saved they become an instant target and thats a great weapon for the mafia Link to comment
Dral Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ok then, since Aladeen is coming home, and roles will be handed out in the coming hours. Lets get a clear idea of what we want. 1) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Kingpin (Investigation is now in the 1ST Round) and Mafia Doctor (Same rules as normal Doctor) 2) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Lackey (In contact with Mafia right away) and Mafia Nurse (Can only save every two rounds) 3) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Lackey (NOT In contact with Mafia right away) and Mafia Doctor (Same rules as normal Doctor) 4) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Kingpin (Investigation is now in the 1ST Round) and Mafia Nurse (Saves every two rounds) EDIT: Just feeling that Doppleganger will be TOO OP if it can use all 3 Roles in 1 RD. 5) Doppelganger vs Lackey in contact with the Mafia Link to comment
Dr.Strangelove Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ok then, since Aladeen is coming home, and roles will be handed out in the coming hours. Lets get a clear idea of what we want. 1) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Kingpin (Investigation is now in the 1ST Round) and Mafia Doctor (Same rules as normal Doctor) 2) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Lackey (In contact with Mafia right away) and Mafia Nurse (Can only save every two rounds) 3) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Lackey (NOT In contact with Mafia right away) and Mafia Doctor (Same rules as normal Doctor) 4) Doppleganger (Has the power of Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor. However, it can only use each role ONCE, and cannot use more than one role in a round) VS. Kingpin (Investigation is now in the 1ST Round) and Mafia Nurse (Saves every two rounds) EDIT: Just feeling that Doppleganger will be TOO OP if it can use all 3 Roles in 1 RD. I like option 3 it balances out the best Link to comment
VICanucksfan5551 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'd say, for the fun of the game and making things A LOT more interesting, it doesn't reveal which Doctor saved who. Agreed. That's why I want the mafia doc in. If its differentiated, it becomes another boring role. Edit: and I like option 4 out of those choices Link to comment
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