Dragonfruits Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 yeah, and the whole core that got him there, including the sedins, kesler, burrows, hansen, raymond, bieksa, edler, salo, luongo, schneider and even coach v, were all his acquisitions, too. ya because Nonis and Burke reached the finals with the exact same core right if you wanna talk about how a guy fell into a GM job with an already great team doing very little to add to that team let's talk about Burke in Anaheim oh ya he got Niedermayer but his brother was already there pretty easy sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 yeah, and the whole core that got him there, including the sedins, kesler, burrows, hansen, raymond, bieksa, edler, salo, luongo, schneider and even coach v, were all his acquisitions, too. That he already once re-tooled and got to the finals. So the last time he did a minor re-tool, we got to the finals and you don't have faith he can do another re-tool because...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 gillis's "retools" of the past didn't lead to the finals, burke/nonis's core peaking and having career years did. if nonis didn't get fired so early and was actually given a chance to build his team, it likely would have done just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 gillis's "retools" of the past didn't lead to the finals, burke/nonis's core peaking and having career years did. if nonis didn't get fired so early and was actually given a chance to build his team, it likely would have done just as well. Gillis supporting that core with secondary scoring and quality role players is what allowed them to have those career years and get to the finals. You're delusional to think he hasn't had a hand in the most successful period in the franchise's history. The guy's not going anywhere, get used to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfruits Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 gillis's "retools" of the past didn't lead to the finals, burke/nonis's core peaking and having career years did. if nonis didn't get fired so early and was actually given a chance to build his team, it likely would have done just as well. Ehrhoff Hamhuis Higgins Lapierre Torres Malhotra Samuelsson all played integral roles to getting to the cup final the core didn't do it on their own Burke and Nonis had the same opportunities to get supporting players and failed to do so leading to early exits take a look at the great pickups both during the trade deadline and free agency that Burke and Nonis got especially later in their tenure KEITH CARNEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Gillis supporting that core with secondary scoring and quality role players is what allowed them to have those career years and get to the finals. You're delusional to think he hasn't had a hand in the most successful period in the franchise's history. The guy's not going anywhere, get used to him. i don't expect gillis to be fired. he's done far too much good for the team financially for francesco to jettison him. i do, however, expect him to assume solely the president role and hire a new gm before the rebuild, if only for the fact that it would allow him to avoid going back on his word of never asking players to waive ntcs. if and when that happens, my vote goes to either dale tallon (if he runs out of leash with new florida ownership), or a rookie gm that's been groomed in a successful franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon4401 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 gillis's "retools" of the past didn't lead to the finals, burke/nonis's core peaking and having career years did. if nonis didn't get fired so early and was actually given a chance to build his team, it likely would have done just as well. you are so right...not like he didn't resign that core to keep them here or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappipappi Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yeah he couldn't build a team that reaches the stanley cup game seven if his job depended on it... what is that? I am hearing the Canucks under Mike Gillis reached game 7 of the Stanley cup final. If you have to explain your joke, it likely wasn't very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks224 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 After todays game, Torts says that this team needs to change, so who do you guys think is going to be traded? Gillis has to do something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUNK Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 move the Sedins, Booth, Edler, Bieksa, Burrows and Luongo. Get the rebuild started. The nucks are just getting boring to watch. They have all the passion of a checkers game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan kesler the beast Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 LOL you guys watch that game? Wow... Stuff needs too change quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks224 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 LOL you guys watch that game? Wow... Stuff needs too change quick GM Gillis better make some moves or hes gonna move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 we need ROR kesler ROR kassian sedin sedin burrows for god sakes our forward group looks anemic, our PP is so awful - so confused as to why they dont just throw it back to the point and keep blasting it on net, they are bound to do better than they are now sedins are either very injured or absolutely cooked, done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Rebuild requires extreme patience and tolerance. 5-8 years of being the leagues punching bag. So we'll be competitive again around 2019-2022, see you then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 count down to feb 28th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon4401 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 we need ROR kesler ROR kassian sedin sedin burrows for god sakes our forward group looks anemic, our PP is so awful - so confused as to why they dont just throw it back to the point and keep blasting it on net, they are bound to do better than they are now sedins are either very injured or absolutely cooked, done. you miss my response to you in the other thread about who we should actually try and get instead of a redundant player we already have in Kesler and in prospects Horvat and Gaunce...and ROR has the exact same game as Gaunce not explosive skating ability good IQ and good hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks224 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think Kesler will want to move to a team that has a better chance of winning the cup and maybe the Sedins will want to move to but they will be harder too. With Diaz coming to this team, I think one of our D-man (Edler, Bieksa or Garrison) can be moved now. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks224 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Rebuild requires extreme patience and tolerance. 5-8 years of being the leagues punching bag. So we'll be competitive again around 2019-2022, see you then. It would't take 5-8 because if we trade away Kesler, Sedins, or Edler we are going to get back good prospects that could develop in 1-2 years or be developed. We just have to trade away our top player for good prospects or it may take up to 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon4401 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It would't take 5-8 because if we trade away Kesler, Sedins, or Edler we are going to get back good prospects that could develop in 1-2 years or be developed. We just have to trade away our top player for good prospects or it may take up to 5 years ask Edmonton how that works with their ready now prospects and 0 vets...need vets to provide the leadership to the young guns or you become a bigger mess then currently are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I would even take a couple lateral moves at this point just to get some new attitudes in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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