Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Merci explain why Ritchie sucked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerAids Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Let's skip to the point. Reinhart may become a 'franchise player' per se, on a weak team. What the Canucks need is a legit one. One who can win a cup. And those types come NEXT draft. So... What is your point exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Merci explain why Ritchie sucked... I have a feeling it's probably because most of his weight is due to being a chocolate chunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I have a feeling it's probably because most of his weight is due to being a chocolate chunk.lol yes. this proved what we all thought but merci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Edit: Long post. Put results of each test in spoilers. Note- number in brackets indicates rank out of ten. I only looked at the top ten in each category Key prospects and where they fit in different tests. Keep in mind I'm not a scout, and there may be names out there who are considered top prospects but that I didn't know about. Some names I was not familiar with but who seemed to stand out: Jayce Hawryluk, David Pastrnak, Brandon Hickey, Sonny Milano (he really killed it), Kaapo Kahkonen, Francis Perron, Shane Gersich, Brett Lernout Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output: Nylander (2) Bleakley (3) Kapanen (5) Anaerobic Fitness: Mean Power Output: Nylander (1) - Really impressive that Nylander scored high in both peak and average power output Kapanen (2) Anaerobic: Fatigue Index: McKeown (7th) Aerobic Fitness: VO2 Max Didn't see any top prospects stand out (not that I am overly familiar with the prospects for this year). Kind of a useless test anyway since aerobic fitness isn't as relevant when you're play 45 second shifts Aerobic Fitness: Test Duration Reinhart (7th) Lemieux (10th) Anthropometry: Sum of 6 skin folds (my understanding- pinch test in six spots on the body): Fabbri (1) Ehlers (8) Body Fat %: Fabbri (1) Ehlers (8) Hand-eye coordination: (4) Nylander Leg power average: Ritchie (3) Perlini (5) Ekblad (6) Tuch (7) Leg power peak: Perlini (6) Ritchie (9) Right hand grip: Ekblad (7) Draisaitl (8) Left hand grip: Ekblad (6) Fleury (8) Bench press (# reps at 150 lbs): Tuch (5) Lemieux (10) Note-they are pretty technical when it comes to how the bench press is performed. Not necessarily the best indicator of strength Pull-Ups: (1) Ho-Sang Single Leg squat (right leg- from my understanding it was simply a grade out of 75 in terms of their form): Perlini (6) Nylander (10) Single Leg squat (left leg): McKeown (6) Agility and Balance (Left Hex): No notables in top 10 Agility and Balance (Right Hex): (1) Fleury (3) Kapanen (4) Reinhart (8) Audette (9) Lemieux Pro Agility (Left): Hickey (2) Nylander (3) Lemieux (4) Pro Agility (Right): Hickey (1) Nylander (2) Lemieux (8) Ehlers (10) Thoughts: Nylander certainly stood out, especially with legs and agility. Interesting that his legs were so strong but also showed good agility. Would have expected bigger guys to have higher outputs. Didn't notice some names for some of the strength tests. I imagine some college prospects would dominate, as their programs seem to emphasize fitness moreso than the CHL since they play fewer games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 CALM DOWN and the link is about 5 post above Why would anyone rave about that? He isnt even in the top 5 on that list. Stop trying to create drama that isnt there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSniper88 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Nylander, Benning please draft this kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Key prospects and where they fit in different tests. Keep in mind I'm not a scout, and there may be names out there who are considered top prospects but that I didn't know about. Some names I was not familiar with but who seemed to stand out: Jayce Hawryluk, David Pastrnak, Brandon Hickey, Sonny Milano, Kaapo Kahkonen, Francis Perron Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output: Nylander (2nd) Bleakley (3rd) Kapanen (5) Anaerobic Fitness: Mean Power Output: Nylander (1) - Really impressive that Nylander scored high in both peak and average power output Kapanen (2) Anaerobic: Fatigue Index: McKeown (7th) Aerobic Fitness: VO2 Max Didn't see any top prospects stand out (not that I am overly familiar with the prospects for this year). Kind of a useless test anyway since aerobic fitness isn't as relevant when you're play 45 second shifts Aerobic Fitness: Test Duration Reinhart (7th) Lemieux (10th) Anthropometry: Sum of 6 skin folds (my understanding- pinch test in six spots on the body): Fabbri (1) Ehlers (8) Body Fat %: Fabbri (1) Ehlers (8) Hand-eye coordination: (4) Nylander Leg power average: Ritchie (3) Perlini (5) Ekblad (6) Tuch (7) Leg power peak: Perlini (6) Ritchie (9) Right hand grip: Ekblad (7) Draisaitl (8) Left hand grip: Ekblad (6) Fleury (8) Bench press (# reps at 150 lbs): Tuch (5) Lemieux (10) Note-they are pretty technical when it comes to how the bench press is performed. Not necessarily the best indicator of strength Pull-Ups: (1) Ho-Sang Single Leg squat (right leg- from my understanding it was simply a grade out of 75 in terms of their form): Perlini (6) Nylander (10) Single Leg squat (left leg): McKeown (6) Agility and Balance (Left Hex): No notables in top 10 Agility and Balance (Right Hex): (1) Fleury (3) Kapanen (4) Reinhart (8) Audette (9) Lemieux Pro Agility (Left): Hickey (2) Nylander (3) Lemieux (4) Pro Agility (Right): Hickey (1) Nylander (2) Lemieux (8) Ehlers (10) Thoughts: Nylander certainly stood out, especially with legs and agility. Interesting that his legs were so strong but also showed good agility. Would have expected bigger guys to have higher outputs. Didn't notice some names for some of the strength tests. I imagine some college prospects would dominate, as their programs seem to emphasize fitness moreso than the CHL since they play fewer games. Thank you for the insight. I am impressed by Nylander . I am just as impressed with his interviews. I am considering taking him at #6 but other GMs are going to notice as well and the Islanders or Panthers might snag him. Thats ok. At least we still get to pick from Draisailt or Dal Colle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 https://link.nhl.com/centralscouting/public/;jsessionid=1wa9ldgzshkqb14i9fd1rs1teeRitchie did not do well in any, Nylander was very good I so can't wait till the draft... So much will happen, and so many possible changes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Junkyard Dog Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Benning said he is open with moving up or down. Take what you want from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I missed a few: Muskuloskeletal Four Jump (speed): Lemieux (2) Dal Colle (4) Muskuloskeletal Four Jump (power): Lemieux (3) Dal Colle (6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 And people are suppose to take u seriously when your talking like this? Ban-Tsn and merci level here Why wouldnt they? Its perfectly consistent. I have wanted Ehlers, Nylander then Ritchie consistently . Sounds like you havent paid attention. Nylander has the highest ceiling of them all. I guess you forgot to read all those posts too. Stop attacking other posters . At least do your homework before you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSniper88 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Why wouldnt they? Its perfectly consistent. I have wanted Ehlers, Nylander then Ritchie consistently . Sounds like you havent paid attention. Nylander has the highest ceiling of them all. I guess you forgot to read all those posts too. Stop attacking other posters . At least do your homework before you do.I agree Nylander does seem to have the highest ceiling offensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Benning said he is open with moving up or down. Take what you want from it. Benning is open to virtually everything. I like that he keeps his options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyllenhaal Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Let's skip to the point. Reinhart may become a 'franchise player' per se, on a weak team. What the Canucks need is a legit one. One who can win a cup. And those types come NEXT draft. So what you are saying is that Tavares is a franchise player on NYI but if he played for LA he would just be a first liner? ...Logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I agree Nylander does seem to have the highest ceiling offensively I preferred Ehlers because he had shown his mettle in the QMJHL while Nylander was overseas. That and his purported attitude issues. I see none of that here at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 The combine kinda shows why teams in recent years have done their own. But I read the Nhl is nixing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 one thing people should keep in mind is Nylander has already proven to be dynamic offensively against men. That should be looked at in a very positive light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 So what you are saying is that Tavares is a franchise player on NYI but if he played for LA he would just be a first liner? ...Logic Dont even try, I have given up on BanTSN, I dont even know if his negativity is srs or if its his online identity to get reactions from board members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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