Absent Canuck Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I pity the people who can only find entertainment by spending all of their day trying to troll other people. Watch out, he might assign you a 'game of thrones' character to further mock you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If you have to state the fact you're trolling, you're not actually trolling. You just sound like you've been caught being stupid and you're blaming it on an attempt to troll. Ya, cause comparing players to game of thrones characters and commenting on Ritchie's biceps isn't trolling. Come on man, try a little harder, it was a veiled attempt at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I didnt get that out of that article..he said Virtanen at 43...which means he thinks he is 43??? He was on TV talking about it. He thinks Virt is a Raffi Torres type player, doesn't think will translate into a good top 6 player. Sees him in bottom 6. Hence 43. Says certain teams see him as top 6 which is why he will go first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 He was on TV talking about it. He thinks Virt is a Raffi Torres type player, doesn't think will translate into a good top 6 player. Sees him in bottom 6. Hence 43. Says certain teams see him as top 6 which is why he will go first round yeah,, right..come draft day. Virt will go a lot quicker than 43...He is 1st round..so whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 yeah,, right..come draft day. Virt will go a lot quicker than 43...He is 1st round..so whatever. I am not a big button guy, actually can't stand him. But I think there is validity to what he says, I see Virt as a guy that at best 2nd line winger more than likely good 3rd liner. Only time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Bearer Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Button actually thinks we're taking Virtanen according to the latest mock draft of his Mike. 'Craig's List' isn't his mock draft, it's his actual prospect ranking. He actually THINKS Virtanen is a second round talent, but he KNOWS a lot of teams like him very high.Wasn't Button the one who oversaw the complete demise of the Flames when he was GM there. Who would listen to anything that guy has to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I am not a big button guy, actually can't stand him. But I think there is validity to what he says, I see Virt as a guy that at best 2nd line winger more than likely good 3rd liner. Only time will tell If you actually think Virtanen will go in the 40s...my gawd...I wouldnt be surprised if the Nux took him at 6...although. he isnt my fav...I want Ritchie..Ehlers/Draistl and Virt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I am not a big button guy, actually can't stand him. But I think there is validity to what he says, I see Virt as a guy that at best 2nd line winger more than likely good 3rd liner. Only time will tell Raffe Torres. However, if we develop him properly he could end up a poor mans Dustin Brown as a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Kreuzberg Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I have Ehlers above Dal Colle, Ehlers has more offensive skill and doesn't play with Drouin, Dal Colle plays on a line with 2 draftees in Cassels and Laughton. Dal Colle is a great player but Ehlers is individually a better hockey player. At even strength, MDC only played with Cassels and Laughton for a brief period of time, a month and half. MDC spent most of his time with Smith and Sterk, or Latour and Cassels. In fact, he had more success and chemistry with Sterk and Cassels than he did with Laughton. I think anyone who actively watched MDC would say he made those around him much better instead of leaching off of them. IMO, MDC is a better hockey player than Ehlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If you actually think Virtanen will go in the 40s...my gawd...I wouldnt be surprised if the Nux took him at 6...although. he isnt my fav...I want Ritchie..Ehlers/Draistl and Virt There must be a large reason why Button doesn't like Virtanen's game. I have yet to hear him articulate why though. Edit: just saw Dr Chill's post a few above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Raffe Torres. However, if we develop him properly he could end up a poor mans Dustin Brown as a winger. If or 6th pick, whoever that is, turns out to be like Torres or Brown that's a big win. I think everyone here drastically overvalues: Nylander, Ritchie, Virtanen, and Ehlers. We will be lucky if we draft an above average second liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder__Bread Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Virtanen reminds me of Mathias. Great skater, good shot, big body, just lacks the toolbox to be a consistent top 6 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If or 6th pick, whoever that is, turns out to be like Torres or Brown that's a big win. I think everyone here drastically overvalues: Nylander, Ritchie, Virtanen, and Ehlers. We will be lucky if we draft an above average second liner. God I hope not. A full fledged Brown ok but not a poor mans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If you actually think Virtanen will go in the 40s...my gawd...I wouldnt be surprised if the Nux took him at 6...although. he isnt my fav...I want Ritchie..Ehlers/Draistl and Virt No I think he will go in top 20. He will make an impact early as a fast exciting player but I think he will top out on potential quick.... Who knows though. Raffe Torres. However, if we develop him properly he could end up a poor mans Dustin Brown as a winger. Maybe. See a lot more high end potential in other players. I would be ok with Virt at 10, at 6 not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If or 6th pick, whoever that is, turns out to be like Torres or Brown that's a big win. I think everyone here drastically overvalues: Nylander, Ritchie, Virtanen, and Ehlers. We will be lucky if we draft an above average second liner. Essentially. Getting a player, preferably one who plays over 500 games, is the biggest issue. When drafting high, like we are this year, there is the expectation that you must get a top end player but it often doesn't work out that way. It's not always in the hands of the drafting team, due to injuries and various other obstacles, but the teams who consistently get at least a high quality role player are the ones who can spare assets later in trades or can allow certain players to walk in UFA rather than overpaying them. It's hard to build with high risk prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 God I hope not. A full fledged Brown ok but not a poor mans. From time to time it is nice to post this article from 2012: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=398986 On an average draft year there's a 38.9% the 6th pick becomes a top 6 forward or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If or 6th pick, whoever that is, turns out to be like Torres or Brown that's a big win. I think everyone here drastically overvalues: Nylander, Ritchie, Virtanen, and Ehlers. We will be lucky if we draft an above average second liner. I think the 4 players you mentioned are sure fire...it just depends on which way you want to go...I want 3 of them...ehlers.Ritchie and Virt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 From time to time it is nice to post this article from 2012: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=398986 On an average draft year there's a 38.9% the 6th pick becomes a top 6 forward or better. I dont expect anyone we get this draft to be top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Interesting; Ritchie has played with Subban(several occasions), Horvat(twice), and Cassels(once) before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 From time to time it is nice to post this article from 2012: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=398986 On an average draft year there's a 38.9% the 6th pick becomes a top 6 forward or better. According to that picking 4th is almost the same as picking 6th in terms of odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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