Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 ewwwwww to trades 1 and 3, if gillis made those he should be fired and to be honest, he would never get hired again Mg's asking price is a top 6 foward. A prospect and a 1st. Thats pretty much what those trades bring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Derrick Pouliot sounds a lot like K-Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yes cause torts was around when kes signed the offer sheet to philly. Lets face it kesler is not as loyal to the canucks as people choose to believe. He wants to go to the US and I don't blame him. When somebody offers you an offersheet, you sign it. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Maybe I am underestimating Pouliot and Despres as they both project as top 4 defencemen. Sutter on the other hand is what he is, a third line centre. My concern with Pouliot and/or Despres is that in some of the info I've read up on them, they seem to both fall into the high risk/high reward category, and in my view, if we're trading a player of Kes' stature then we need to be getting back a future stud D-man or offensive prospect. We also have enough third line centre's coming up through the system in Horvat and Gaunce, so I just don't see the need for a Sutter. In my view, Gillis needs to be going big and maybe try to package Kes in the offseason with whatever pieces are necessary to get someone like Seth Jones or a couple of top offensive prospects...someone like Mantha. With 29 other teams lining up for a shot at Kes, surely Gillis should be able to leverage that, especially with teams like the Pens and Flyers. 100% agree with you. And FTR, Holmgren would beat anything Pittsburgh would offer, including that proposed package. I have no doubt they would offer up Voracek and Couturier. Right away that beats Sutter, Pouliot and a 1st. Especially in this draft year. I just feel with Phili, if MG wants Couts bad enough, he could still do it but by another road. Either via a package with Edler or to a lesser extent with Tanev. Maybe we would have to add a sweetener. I know I would want Couts for his PK ability. I still say I HOPE Kes waives for Nashville. I could see Kes and Tanev for Jones, Legwand, and a 1st. If we re-sign Legwand, definitely worth it. And it would keep the team competitive throughout this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 When somebody offers you an offersheet, you sign it. End of story. Why? F he really wanted to stay in van why would he risk it? He is not as loyal as linden guys and even linden was traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Why? F he really wanted to stay in van why would he risk it? He is not as loyal as linden guys and even linden was traded To get a significant pay raise? He was also young and new to the league and Vancouver at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 To get a significant pay raise? He was also young and new to the league and Vancouver at the time. Yea sorry but I don't see how people see him as being so loyal to this team he really has no reason to stay. We should have traded him instead of hodgson when his value was over the roof. Because once he becomes a ufa he will be gone and we will get nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 we dont want an older brittle player signed for a long time in Franzen. we move kesler for a guy younger than him who can play now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If we trade Kesler expect an extreme rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Id do Derrick Pouliot,1st round pick,2nd round pick(2015) and Brandon Sutter id take it. The 1st round pick is late so i added a 2nd round pick in 2015 because its a much deeper draft thats a trade you get fired for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zduck14 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Torts is the only reason why Kesler wants out. Fire the coach. Kesler (and Hamhuis, and Hansen, and everyone else Torts doesn't like) has proven himself to us over the years. What the F has Torts done for us? Just for the record, Hamhuis and Torts get along great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas Jensen Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Kesler for PK Subban straight up. Than next year, we would have Jordan and PK as a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just for the record, Hamhuis and Torts get along great. I dont believe the reason for kes wanting out is torts .. but I can tell you that torts is not loved by this team .. or by mike gillis .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiangunner Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Torts is the only reason why Kesler wants out. Fire the coach. Kesler (and Hamhuis, and Hansen, and everyone else Torts doesn't like) has proven himself to us over the years. What the F has Torts done for us? 5,700 points and you don't have a clue bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 here is a lesson kids, quality not quantity try to get the best player you can for kesler, if you get one player that is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Mg's asking price is a top 6 foward. A prospect and a 1st. Thats pretty much what those trades bring I think MG had his heart set on a legit top 6 player who is not over the hill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 5,700 points and you don't have a clue bud. And your insider info is...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 5,700 points and you don't have a clue bud. ouch ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 no need for insults folks .. just some nucks fans talkin here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yea sorry but I don't see how people see him as being so loyal to this team he really has no reason to stay. We should have traded him instead of hodgson when his value was over the roof. Because once he becomes a ufa he will be gone and we will get nothing Did you say this 2 deadlines ago? Cuz if you did everyone on this forum would've called you crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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