MJDDawg Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: We moved Sanchez to the pen to avoid him requiring tommy John surgery or something similar. Until you're about 24-25 you don't physically have the strength to throw that hard consistently and put that much torque on your arm without doing serious damage. It's a smart long term move. You want Sanchez to have some great years 25-33ish this is the way to attain that. Common amongst the very few pitchers that make it this young, Strasburg had the same treatment his first couple years and when they first tried to get him a full season he required shoulder surgery iirc, he's been good since but not the predicted mesiah he was on pace for before that. * my quote thing isn't working properly so I didn't quote you. I understand that, but he's been a stud and one of the best pitcher's in baseball. More importantly, he hasn't shown any sign of being tired or wearing down. He's just mowing guys down and he's making it look easy. There's something called an efficiency ratio which looks to innings pitched versus the number of pitches thrown, and I believe he's in the top 7 or 8 in the whole league in efficiency. In otherwords, his innings count equates to a much lower number of the innings as the innings have not been difficult for him. On the contrary, he's been making it look easy for some time now. I kind of agree with Zaun on the point that there's no guarantees with where this team will be at next season or the one after. Sanchez is a young stud and as Zaun mentioned, you want more of those guys in your rotation than 30-year old plus guys. And as you mentioned with Strasburg, they did the same thing with him and he's only had one season where he wasn't put on the disabled list. Zaun's point being that there are no guarantees. He also suggested that if the move happens, the locker-room might blow up as the implication of the move is that he's more important to the Jays than guys on this team right now. Than the veterans in the room such as Bautista, Encarnacion, and Donaldson, guys that are the team leaders, who might not be with the team after the season and who will not be happy knowing that the move could hurt their chances to make the playoffs and go on a long run. They want to win now. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, and how management will explain the move to Jays fans if they don't make the playoffs by a half game or a game because they decided not to pitch Sanchez. Edited August 2, 2016 by MJDDawg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Alex Rodriguez: New York Yankees May Release Designated Hitter Before End of Season, Report Says The Yankees may cut Rodriguez, who is owed $42 million over the next two years, the New York Daily News reported. The three-time MVP is batting .205 with nine home runs and 29 RBIs this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, MJDDawg said: I understand that, but he's been a stud and one of the best pitcher's in baseball. More importantly, he hasn't shown any sign of being tired or wearing down. He's just mowing guys down and he's making it look easy. There's something called an efficiency ratio which looks to innings pitched versus the number of pitches thrown, and I believe he's in the top 7 or 8 in the whole league in efficiency. In otherwords, his innings count equates to a much lower number of the innings as the innings have not been difficult for him. On the contrary, he's been making it look easy for some time now. I kind of agree with Zaun on the point that there's no guarantees with where this team will be at next season or the one after. Sanchez is a young stud and as Zaun mentioned, you want more of those guys in your rotation than 30-year old plus guys. And as you mentioned with Strasburg, they did the same thing with him and he's only had one season where he wasn't put on the disabled list. Zaun's point being that there are no guarantees. He also suggested that if the move happens, the locker-room might blow up as the implication of the move is that he's more important to the Jays than guys on this team right now. Than the veterans in the room such as Bautista, Encarnacion, and Donaldson, guys that are the team leaders, who might not be with the team after the season and who will not be happy knowing that the move could hurt their chances to make the playoffs and go on a long run. They want to win now. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, and how management will explain the move to Jays fans if they don't make the playoffs by a half game or a game because they decided not to pitch Sanchez. Sanchez is a big stud...it wasnt done to Stroman who is a small guy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Liriano's numbers when pitching to Martin are more than good enough to justify moving Sanchez to the bullpen in a win now situation. Hopefully Rogers coughs up the cash this offseason to sign EE as the dude has been nothing short of exceptional. Letting Joey Bats go in favour of re-signing Saunders and picking up a reliever may be worth it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, TheHitman said: Liriano's numbers when pitching to Martin are more than good enough to justify moving Sanchez to the bullpen in a win now situation. Hopefully Rogers coughs up the cash this offseason to sign EE as the dude has been nothing short of exceptional. Letting Joey Bats go in favour of re-signing Saunders and picking up a reliever may be worth it as well. we dont know that about Liriano..he isnt having a great year but if he gets back to where he was it might work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Well,, what does today hold..we will see..I think Saunders will get a few hits tonight..time to get out of the funk..Upton needs a few as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, ShakyWalton said: Alex Rodriguez: New York Yankees May Release Designated Hitter Before End of Season, Report Says The Yankees may cut Rodriguez, who is owed $42 million over the next two years, the New York Daily News reported. The three-time MVP is batting .205 with nine home runs and 29 RBIs this season. Saving that 3B money for Machado. That's Harper, Trout, and now Machado that the Yankees have been linked to. I'm sure some of this can be taken with a grain of salt (how many hockey players get linked to TO that never sign there) but if they manage to sign all three it may be enough for me not to be a fan of major league baseball anymore. Edited August 3, 2016 by Wilbur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 2 hours ago, ShakyWalton said: we dont know that about Liriano..he isnt having a great year but if he gets back to where he was it might work out. Fair enough, the biggest concern in the rotation has to be Estrada's back though if Sanchez is moved to the bullpen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 23 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Saving that 3B money for Machado. That's Harper, Trout, and now Machado that the Yankees have been linked to. I'm sure some of this can be taken with a grain of salt (how many hockey players get linked to TO that never sign there) but if they manage to sign all three it may be enough for me not to be a fan of major league baseball anymore. Harper and Trout will more than likely cost them half a billion each to get under contract, not sure if they will spend on Machado after that especially when they will need pitching help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I dont mind the transition. It makes our bullpen a lot stronger and saves the kids arm. If we make the playoffs, he could very well be back in the rotation. Lets hope this new guy from Pittsburgh gets his mojo back with #55 catching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Xbox said: I dont mind the transition. It makes our bullpen a lot stronger and saves the kids arm. If we make the playoffs, he could very well be back in the rotation. Lets hope this new guy from Pittsburgh gets his mojo back with #55 catching Sanchez will be in the bullpen for the playoffs too if they make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 How about the World Series favourite Cleveland Indians the last 2 games. Been outscored 20-7 by the Twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Mike,,come on..these SOs have to end...man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 3 hours ago, ShakyWalton said: we dont know that about Liriano..he isnt having a great year but if he gets back to where he was it might work out. Just got home from work, how've we looked? Liriano has over 1500 career strikeouts and has played on some pretty bad teams, but did play on a couple good pirates teams and showed some success. I think he might turn it around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Looks like dickey has his $&!# together tonight... We need a 7-8 inning quality start from him tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: Just got home from work, how've we looked? Liriano has over 1500 career strikeouts and has played on some pretty bad teams, but did play on a couple good pirates teams and showed some success. I think he might turn it around here. we have been okay..Saunders still striking out..getting real hard to watch this guy.......bombs by EE and Bats...interesting clip with Hayhurst saying its a lose lose putting Sanchez in the pen...thinks its absolutely the wrong move.... http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/hayhurst-on-sanchez-s-move-to-pen-a-lose-lose-for-the-jays~922864 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 minute ago, ShakyWalton said: we have been okay..Saunders still striking out..getting real hard to watch this guy.......bombs by EE and Bats...interesting clip with Hayhurst saying its a lose lose putting Sanchez in the pen...thinks its absolutely the wrong move.... http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/hayhurst-on-sanchez-s-move-to-pen-a-lose-lose-for-the-jays~922864 Thx buddy, I gotta go play myself... Hopefully when I get off the field we'll have won and aren't in another marathon game... It's the last thing our BP needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmen81 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Baltimore won today, so gotta win here to stay 1 game back. And nice bounce back effort from Dickey. Needed him to go deep into this game. Edited August 3, 2016 by gmen81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 What did they do with the real Dickey? Where'd they get this look a like? Looks good tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Damn..looks like Upton has arm problems now...this team is falling apart with injuries at the wrong time. Has anyone heard anything on Tulo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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