mll Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 4 hours ago, canuktravella said: we have a mill in cap plus dorsett is on ltir we can go over cap by 2.65 so means we have 3.65 in space plus vanek and guddy coukd be traded at deadline that opens up 5.5 in space as well CapFriendly gives more details on LTIR here: https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq Boeser is likely to hit quite a few of his bonus targets - that will eat into the cap at the end of the season and any excess would have to be carried over. Trading Vanek and Gudbranson does open up cap space but it was in light of a trade with Washington. A team can only retain 50% (and on 3 contracts max - Canucks have Hansen/Luongo). Gudbranson is 3.5M and Hutton at 2.8M - Capitals do not have 1.75M (Gudbranson) or 1.4M (Hutton). Washington could create space by moving a contract but they are heading to the playoffs. Which player would they see as expendable that would open up enough space while not impacting their competitiveness or depth while still creating enough room to deal with injuries for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, mll said: CapFriendly gives more details on LTIR here: https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq Boeser is likely to hit quite a few of his bonus targets - that will eat into the cap at the end of the season and any excess would have to be carried over. Trading Vanek and Gudbranson does open up cap space but it was in light of a trade with Washington. A team can only retain 50% (and on 3 contracts max - Canucks have Hansen/Luongo). Gudbranson is 3.5M and Hutton at 2.8M - Capitals do not have 1.75M (Gudbranson) or 1.4M (Hutton). Washington could create space by moving a contract but they are heading to the playoffs. Which player would they see as expendable that would open up enough space while not impacting their competitiveness or depth while still creating enough room to deal with injuries for the rest of the season. Donr Boeser's bonus $'s trigger into next years cap only??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I don’t see Tampa panicing and making a move for a D unless it was something they were already looking for. They have a comfortable buffer right now and can afford to see if their existing crop of D can cover for Hedman’s absence. It’s not like he’s gone for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 45 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Donr Boeser's bonus $'s trigger into next years cap only??? They get covered this year if there's enough cap space - otherwise it gets carried over. Panarin hit all his targets - over 2.5M. The Blackhawks had to carry most of it over the following season because they didn't have the cap space to absorb it that same season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 57 minutes ago, mll said: They get covered this year if there's enough cap space - otherwise it gets carried over. Panarin hit all his targets - over 2.5M. The Blackhawks had to carry most of it over the following season because they didn't have the cap space to absorb it that same season. Luckily we'll have a minimum of $9 million if the twins re-sign for 2.5 each, 14 million if they don't at all. Plus the other contracts etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 It's interesting looking at the possible issues facing the caps moving forward with Ovis age and their need to actually win something It's even more interesting looking at the Bolts and seeing the mess they'll be in with Sergachev and Kucherovs contracts due in a few https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals Actually surprising Yzerman has done what he's done but some contracts will be owed soon. Makes me re-consider Bennings prowess a little seeing how he's moved this team towards youth with so much upcoming space over the next 3 years Needless to say, I understand the Bolts aren't in as pressing a position as the Caps, but also doesn't mean they wouldn't want to get something done. And with Bowey again being sent down and the Canucks owning almost $20 million in space after this season it's hard to think they couldn't get something done in the same way other teams have for eating contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Warhippy said: It's interesting looking at the possible issues facing the caps moving forward with Ovis age and their need to actually win something It's even more interesting looking at the Bolts and seeing the mess they'll be in with Sergachev and Kucherovs contracts due in a few https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals Actually surprising Yzerman has done what he's done but some contracts will be owed soon. Makes me re-consider Bennings prowess a little seeing how he's moved this team towards youth with so much upcoming space over the next 3 years Needless to say, I understand the Bolts aren't in as pressing a position as the Caps, but also doesn't mean they wouldn't want to get something done. And with Bowey again being sent down and the Canucks owning almost $20 million in space after this season it's hard to think they couldn't get something done in the same way other teams have for eating contracts It's their bye week until the 17th. Vrana has also been sent down. They need to create cap space so even one day down matters. These two have done the trip down 3 times this month: https://www.capfriendly.com/transactions/all-transactions/WSH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, qwijibo said: I don’t see Tampa panicing and making a move for a D unless it was something they were already looking for. They have a comfortable buffer right now and can afford to see if their existing crop of D can cover for Hedman’s absence. It’s not like he’s gone for the season. brown being waived means they are making a move for a dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, canuktravella said: brown being waived means they are making a move for a dman That’s quite the jump in logic. You see them putting a 27 year old rw with 62 career points in 268 games on waivers as a clear indication that they’re making a move for a defenceman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Joe Smith @TBTimes_JSmith Re: Brown, #TBLightning Yzerman said he wanted roster flexibility to, “when the time comes,” recall players who are excelling in Syracuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 9 hours ago, qwijibo said: That’s quite the jump in logic. You see them putting a 27 year old rw with 62 career points in 268 games on waivers as a clear indication that they’re making a move for a defenceman? no it means they are clearing 1.5 mill in cap and hedman is injured 6 weeks soo ya its logical that they might pick up a dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, canuktravella said: no it means they are clearing 1.5 mill in cap and hedman is injured 6 weeks soo ya its logical that they might pick up a dman Joe Smith @TBTimes_JSmith Re: Brown, #TBLightning Yzerman said he wanted roster flexibility to, “when the time comes,” recall players who are excelling in Syracuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 hours ago, qwijibo said: Joe Smith @TBTimes_JSmith Re: Brown, #TBLightning Yzerman said he wanted roster flexibility to, “when the time comes,” recall players who are excelling in Syracuse Hard to argue that. They've some surprising players down there. But I could still very easily see them picking up some very qualified depth for a long playoff run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The problem is neither team need help on the sides you are proposing. Caps has zero use for a player like Hutton, on the left side they have Orpik for size and then they have Orlov and Djoos who are both better skaters and puck movers than Hutton, so hutton is a down grade on the left side. And they aren't giving up Bowey as he is there bottom pairing RHD. Outside of him they don't have any NHL talent to fill that hole, so they'd be forcing Chorney or someone else to play on their opposite side. Gudbranson makes more sense for there roster, but he doesn't really make that much sense at the cost of Bowey. Bowey has been having a really good year in his first full season in the NHL, he's an RFA and will be a cheap contract, Gudbranson is a UFA and going to cost a penny or two to resign. Bowey could surpass Guddy in player before next season so it would be a pure rental move, and caps likely aren't going to be giving up that much after the last few trade deadlines haven't turned out they way they wanted. Caps Current D core Opik Carlson Orlov NIskanen Djoos Bowey Chorney As for the bolts, i doubt they are going to give away a player like Foote for a declining asset like Edler. Tampa has no reason to panic, they are comfortably in a playoff spot, and Hedman will be back long before playoffs started, i don't see how Edler would make sense. Especially because when Hedman does return, edler doesn't really fit in their roster. Edler would be replacing Coburn who is use primarily as a shut down D, getting 63% D zone starts. That's not Edlers strong suit and he's sure not replacing the other in Ozone responsibilities so where does he fit. Bolts Current D core Hedman Dotchin Sergachev Stralman Coburn Girardi Koekkoek Sustr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 2018-01-14 at 12:02 AM, qwijibo said: Joe Smith @TBTimes_JSmith Re: Brown, #TBLightning Yzerman said he wanted roster flexibility to, “when the time comes,” recall players who are excelling in Syracuse ya or hes not telling media his plans not the first gm to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 hours ago, canuktravella said: ya or hes not telling media his plans not the first gm to do so Possibly, but you stated Brown was waived to bring in a D , like it was a fact, when it's actually baseless speculation on your part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 hours ago, qwijibo said: Possibly, but you stated Brown was waived to bring in a D , like it was a fact, when it's actually baseless speculation on your part he will be bringing in a d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 In Friedmans 31 thoughts today he notes that the Bolts were possibly looking at adding another defenceman even prior to Hedmans injury Food for thought http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-defencemen-flooding-market-ahead-trade-deadline/ 13. Nick Kypreos reported that the likes of Boston and Ottawa have tried to pry Slater Koekkoek from Tampa, only to be rebuffed. The lefty shot gets a better opportunity with Victor Hedman out. Even before the Norris Trophy contender went down, it is believed the Lightning were looking for another defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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