PhillipBlunt Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, MikeyBoy44 said: I am starting to wonder of some of you anti oil folk are sure of what exactly is the use of oil. While I can agree the need to reduce "emissions" we still need oil. Unless you want to keep chatting about this on cave wall drawings. 1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said: I wonder if some of you pro oil folk even care about global warming and dirty tar sands contribution to climate change. I think the present-day solution lies somewhere in the middle. Humanity needs to move away from the use and dependency on fossil fuels, but it won't (nor should it) be done with haste. There has to be a steady and methodical transition that slowly works societies out of the dependency on oil for fuels and plastics. It's not realistically possible to do in less than five years. That being said, continuing to rely on fossil fuel for generations will bring about an extinction event eventually. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeyBoy44 said: I see you care so much you bought a computer. Good talk. At least my computer wasn't made from dirty tar sludge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, MikeyBoy44 said: I see you care so much you bought a computer. Good talk. I see you don't care about Global warming. Good talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said: At least my computer wasn't made from dirty tar sludge. For the love of all of us I hope you're joking....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippers Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Trade wars are never a good thing. But protecting the earth from global warming has to be our first priority. The more dirty bitumen that stays in the ground the better...... There will be more than a trade war. The country is finished unless oil flows. Alberta and Saskatchewan will leave. Consequences will not matter. Edited February 1, 2018 by slippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said: I see you don't care about Global warming. Good talk. King, we need crude oil. It’s truly the blood of our economy. We don’t live the comfortable lives we do now without crude oil. Yes, the burning of fossil fuels, their extraction, and their refining contribute to climate change. Yes it’s causing coming climatic disasters. To stop using crude oil, or even reduce our current use, would cause the collapse of our world economy. Pretty much we are screwed. Except one kills us fast, and the other kills us slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Alflives said: King, we need crude oil. It’s truly the blood of our economy. We don’t live the comfortable lives we do now without crude oil. Yes, the burning of fossil fuels, their extraction, and their refining contribute to climate change. Yes it’s causing coming climatic disasters. To stop using crude oil, or even reduce our current use, would cause the collapse of our world economy. Pretty much we are screwed. Except one kills us fast, and the other kills us slow. I disagree somewhat. As far as ways of fueling engines, I'm all for renewables. However though the rest I agree. What has become pretty much sociably mandatory for our everyday lives crude oil is here to stay. Also a small part of me may believe the powers that be will not allow us to move on from using gas and diesel cuz, well, money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 48 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Trade wars are never a good thing. But protecting the earth from global warming has to be our first priority. The more dirty bitumen that stays in the ground the better...... Look, I like you but obviously you know we staunchly disagree on this situation. I can appreciate your passion KOS but you will never change my mind especially since it would hurt my family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Look, I like you but obviously you know we staunchly disagree on this situation. I can appreciate your passion KOS but you will never change my mind especially since it would hurt my family. And put me out of a job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippers Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeyBoy44 said: And put me out of a job You and about a million others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Look, I like you but obviously you know we staunchly disagree on this situation. I can appreciate your passion KOS but you will never change my mind especially since it would hurt my family. Long term vs short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, MikeyBoy44 said: And put me out of a job I hear ya. Certain people have no idea of the oil industry. The trickle down effect is huge for Canadians. Many B.C manufacturing plants would be out of business if these people got their ways. Finally, do these people really want to support Arabia, Venezuela and others rather than support our great Country? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, inane said: Long term vs short term. Surprisingly I support JTs approach on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippers Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Ryan Strome said: Surprisingly I support JTs approach on this matter. If Trudeau sticks with Notley, who is also doing well here, disaster can be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, slippers said: If Trudeau sticks with Notley, who is also doing well here, disaster can be avoided. Whoa, whoa easy pal. Jt said for us to not make money and and leave that in the ground is irresponsible. I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I guess it will be time for oil companies to transport oil to Alaskan ports or to the port of Churchill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippers Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Whoa, whoa easy pal. Jt said for us to not make money and and leave that in the ground is irresponsible. I agree. Well, I did say "doing well here", and by "here"......I mean the pipeline issues. lol Edited February 1, 2018 by slippers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Look, I like you but obviously you know we staunchly disagree on this situation. I can appreciate your passion KOS but you will never change my mind especially since it would hurt my family. I totally understand that. Family always come first. I am lucky i don't have to make those decisions. I am not here to judge anyone. Oil production clearly benefits many families. Hopefully some day when society really starts to switch over to green energy the CDN government will subsidize oil industry workers retraining . I imagine this may be in 20 years or more away though.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I hear ya. Certain people have no idea of the oil industry. The trickle down effect is huge for Canadians. Many B.C manufacturing plants would be out of business if these people got their ways. Finally, do these people really want to support Arabia, Venezuela and others rather than support our great Country? Oh i hear you. Many lower mainland welding / fabrication shops do huge dollars on Alberta tar sands equipment. I have visited many of them through my work. Tycrop out in Chilliwack does some amazing work on oil sands equip. A slow down in crude production will hurt all provinces, no doubt. Edited February 1, 2018 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) Ryan Ever come across one of these.... Made in the Whack - Chilliwack i believe for the oil industry.. Is it called a Viper ? Deleted photo. I don't want to promote Tycrop / Propel's products. Edited February 1, 2018 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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